Suh has four years left on his deal, and his cap numbers are as follows:

2017: 19.1m
2018: 26.1m
2019: 28.1m
2020: 22.375m

There is no real reason or logic to rework his deal now, as it would only make the next two years even bigger, by shoving money into the future. He also cannot be cut the next two seasons with a huge dead money hit. Should the team decide to, then his contract could be looked at in 2019, as either part of an extension, or perhaps to let him go to save money.

Tannehill is also signed for four more seasons. His deal is a bit different though, in that he makes right around 20m in each of those seasons. It possible that the team could choose to rework his deal after this coming season if he has a great year, but right now, with not much guaranteed money and a cap number thats very workable for a starting QB, I doubt that the team gives up their flexibility without a good reason.

 

Even in '19 it's still not easy to cut/trade Suh as his dead cap will be 13 mil, yes you save 15 mil in salary, but then 13 mil in cap space is frozen.

Horrible contract, you can't even trade the dude and he is largely over paid.

 

To restructure you have to give up more guaranteed money. That's a long term risk with either guy.


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Currently, RT's average salary is 14th highest for QB's. Tony Romo, Tyrod Taylor, Jay Cutler, and Kaepernick make a lot more money than he does. Tannehill has an incredibly team-friendly contract. Why would you re-structure his contract?

 

I certainly wouldn't. And his contract is only going to become more team friendly over the next few years as other's get their new deals too.

As far as Suh goes, I don't expect the team to cut him after the 2018 season. As Finster said, its still a huge dead money hit. Its just actually impossible until that point to even think about it.

I actually don't expect any players to be restuctured, honestly. Pouncey and Maxwell could both be cut after next season with little to no dead money, and they are the only two other players on the team signed beyond 2018 who aren't on rookie contracts.

 

Yeah, Suh will not be cut. And saying that he's overpaid is extremely subjective. He's a dominate force and will be a huge part when/if we get deep into the playoffs...

 

Suh is good for the team. So no he will not be cut. But RT could restructure.

 

And what do you think it should be?

 

Why? It's a great, fair, team friendly contract.

 

Yeah, I don't understand what the need or benefit of moving money into the future would be. We have lots of cap room this season, and why make his number higher in 2018 and beyond?

 

How would you restructure him?

 

He plays around the 14th level QB so his salary being that, matches perfectly.

There really are 13 qbs making more money? I haven't looked.

 

You think average is "way too much"?

 

And?

 

5 of those QB's making more than RT will be cut?

 

I wouldn't restructure either one until we are assured of needing it to be a deep run SB team.

 

Averages don't tell me a lot. With the way contracts are structured you can have year to year volatility. When making a decision going forward you need to ignore sunk costs and see what the numbers are moving forward.

A qb can be paid $1m this year and $39m next year. Average is $20m.

 

Without anyone signing new contracts or getting cut, this year his salary cap number is #7th, and 2018 it is #15th.

 

Uhhhhh you have that set at who has the most money all together in their contract.. RT averages more then all those QBs you mentioned.. I see what you did their though, nice try.

 

We are stuck with suh. Get used to it and hope for the best.

Tannehills contract is fine, hes on average with all the other starting quarterbacks.

 

He's going to be tied with Aaron Rodgers for 6th highest paid qb next year

The only statistic he'll be tied with Aaron Rodgers

 

The contract will average out... just wait and see what the final numbers for Matt Ryan and Stafford turns out.. tannehills contract is fine and if ahything he can be released if he doesnt fit but so far it seems like he does fit

 

But the scenario you're showing will never happen. If you go year by year, I believe his contract fluctuates between ~$16mil and ~$20mil.

He's a slightly above average QB (with hopefully the ability to get better) getting average QB pay.

 

That's the default for the website. I think it clearly states what each column represents. What exactly did I do besides post a screen shot of the entire info available for each QB's contract? I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

Congrats on "seeing" the website. Hopefully the numbers weren't too difficult for you to understand. haha

 

lol...

 

- "Stuck" with Suh (like its a bad thing)
- restructure our QB's already team friendly deal

This board needs another round:

 

And next year Joe Flacco will be the 2nd highest paid QB in the league behind Tony Romo all the while RT is 15th.

If you don't understand how NFL contracts work I'd be happy to explain it to you.

Just ask.

Nicely.

And pay me. lol

 

At this point, there's really no need to re-structure either IMO.

Suh... you just can't. There just isn't a lot you can do with it.

As for Tannehill... while his play might not be at his dollar value, you really can't be concerned with that at this point. The deal itself is very reasonable for a capable QB you can win with in this league. You have two choices really in the NFL IMO... you're either fortunate enough to nail a QB pick in the draft that gives you the value of that rookie contract for a few years, or you're paying through the nose for someone that has experience and can play. Sure, there's a third option, but that's got you in the same situation as the Cleveland Browns the last few years, so who really wants that?

The hit's on Tannehill's contract right now really aren't a major issue IMO. Unfortunately these deals keep increasing and you can't stop that. That's the situation you're faced with when your QB hits his second deal if you plan on keeping him. If you plan on just drafting another QB every time that rookie deal ends, then, I'd say stop playing Madden and let's talk about the real world here. I can however understand the thought of draft another QB because this one isn't good enough. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can understand it. However, no guarantee your draftee plays as well, and I really just don't think our team has the luxury right now of cutting the cord on Tannehill to spend a early pick on a QB, especially in a draft without top QB prospects.

That being said, at this point, the numbers are what they are. It's the cost of doing business with QB's in the NFL. Outside of those on rookie deals, you've either got one or you don't, and if you have one, you're paying for him.

The talk of comparing his total contract value, or average salary, or whatever else you want to look at in comparison to other players, is just nonsense IMO. The total value varies a lot on when it was signed, and the average fluctuates on the number of years the deal was for. At the end of the day ,these' kinds of numbers are what you're going to pay for 2nd and 3rd contract starting caliber QB's. That's never going to change, and we aren't in the luxury IMO of drafting one that can make an impact, and I'm not even sure there's one in this class. So, you pay. Just let RT's deal be for the time being until we need to do something drastic like that.

If you think Tannehill's deal is bad, I'd say wait until you see the deal Kirk Cousins get's somewhere. Look at what Osweiler got. Numbers like this for QB's are just the cost of doing business in the NFL QB market.

 

$19,999,999.95.

Gotta make cap room for Revis Island.


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Exactly. I think people either forget, or don't understand this aspect. It's not as if we're restructuring these deals and taking money away. You're just converting it, and lowering the cap hit initially, but pushing it back in the contract. You're going to pay for it eventually.

Restructures sound great because of the upfront relief, but it's not like you're getting away with anything. You're just kicking the can down the road and piling on the cap hit later in the deal.