Re-Watching LAST Pre-seasons Panthers/Dolphins - Some Thoughts

- Dansby can't cover Olsen. Wonder if we'll see that again.

- This was Cam Newton's rookie year... this time around it's Tannehill's rookie year. Let's hope for a great showing by our rookie. (How's the Panthers D this year... SICK< your imput would be great in this thread. Scouting Report?)

Barry, you have too much free time, go buy a PS3 and Madden 13 in a few weeks. :tongue2:

Just kidding bud, and we won last year's preseason game against them.

I think we forget how good Hartline can be, since we aren;t seeing him play right now.

Just watched him get wide open deep for what should have been a 40 yard TD. Henne overthrew him.

The announcers mentioned hartline scoring a 40 yard TD in the prior pre-season game. He CAN get deep and beat deep coverage with some regularity. The fact that he doesn't 'scare' anyone probably helps him in that regard. He is underestimated and the next thing you know, he has out-techniqued you and is running free deep.

"Starry31 wrote:

Barry, you have too much free time, go buy a PS3 and Madden 13 in a few weeks. :tongue2:

Just kidding bud, and we won last year's preseason game against them.

That reminds me, I have my PS3 in my closet. I ought to sell it.

At the time, I had not watched as much CFL as I do now, Tsoumpas did not make it to TC that yr.

Thigpen I have seen, the other guy who blossomed in the CFL believe it or not, is Chris Williams, the cat who looked great in preseason 09 but had a ball plunk off of his facemask and was did not make the team.

Well... Daniel Thomas sucked at goalline last year, let's hope we have a different answer this year. Didn't look like it in pre-season game one.

Last year, DT got stoned a few times at the goal line so they took him out and let Hilliard go in.

I fear our team, being even LESS power-oriented than last year's, may do better getting into the red zone from the 15 yard line than from inside the 5.

It would maker a big difference having Tannehill in on Goal line with his mobility and size... Bootleg baby.

Phil Livas actually looked good last preseason. Still kind of a curious decision by the coaches to let him go. He's with the Ravens this preseason I believe.

"Bpk wrote:

Well... Daniel Thomas sucked at goalline last year, let's hope we have a different answer this year. Didn't look like it in pre-season game one.

Last year, DT got stoned a few times at the goal line so they took him out and let Hilliard go in.

I fear our team, being even LESS power-oriented than last year's, may do better getting into the red zone from the 15 yard line than from inside the 5.

It would maker a big difference having Tannehill in on Goal line with his mobility and size... Bootleg baby.

Did anyone else notice that Daniel Thomas got like 2 carries in the Buccaneers game?

I mean, he did well with them...gained -2 yards...but still...

Some great blocking up front last year vs the Panthers... even WITH Columbo in there, because Long, Incog and Pouncey dominated.

Seems like our best run gaps are Off-Tackle Left between Fasano and Jake Long, HB dive/iso/(inside zone now) between Pounce and Incognito... or far outside right... like WAY outside... which can slightly negate the Columbo-Martin Effect. (God I hope I never use that phrase again)

"ckparrothead wrote:

Did anyone else notice that Daniel Thomas got like 2 carries in the Buccaneers game?

I mean, he did well with them...gained -2 yards...but still...

LOL. You are relentless.

"Tone_E wrote:

LOL. You are relentless.

It wasn't a popular pick overall, and when you had Henne and Moore as your QBs and you trade up for a running back when Mallet is sitting there you're really going to put that guy on the spot. It's on DT to prove everyone wrong, and he's not doing it yet.

SO glad we won't have to see that baseball diamond again.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

It wasn't a popular pick overall, and when you had Henne and Moore as your QBs and you trade up for a running back when Mallet is sitting there you're really going to put that guy on the spot. It's on DT to prove everyone wrong, and he's not doing it yet.

Never trust upright runners with a high center of gravity.

"Bpk wrote:

- Dansby can't cover Olsen. Wonder if we'll see that again.

- This was Cam Newton's rookie year... this time around it's Tannehill's rookie year. Let's hope for a great showing by our rookie. (How's the Panthers D this year... SICK< your imput would be great in this thread. Scouting Report?)

Panthers defense is their biggest question mark. Beason missed last week with a hamstring injury. He missed all of last year with a torn achilles. Thomas Davis is "healthy" but he hasnt played an entire season since the Jimmy Carter regime. Their new rookie linebacker Luke Keuchley is a STUD.....S - T - U - D....they love him up here. Their defensive line is terrible except for Charles Johnson, greg hardy is "eh"....and their D-backs are pretty bad. Godfrey is ok, Gamble is old, and Captain Munnerlyn is "eh"

They have a lot of depth at DB's they are wanting to see more of (young guys) so it'll be fun to watch the backups.

Of course offensivley they have cam, denangelo/jstew, smitty, olsen, lafell, and watch out for tutu trying to lock down the #3 battling with louis murphy.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

It wasn't a popular pick overall, and when you had Henne and Moore as your QBs and you trade up for a running back when Mallet is sitting there you're really going to put that guy on the spot. It's on DT to prove everyone wrong, and he's not doing it yet.

And what is Mallet proving? That he would've been our savior? Far from it, against scrubs too. Mallet reduces your argument's effectiveness. Just say we moved up to get back into the 2nd round for this guy and I will agree he is under performing. But, so is the O-Line in the running game as well.

Clyde Gates just never seemed on the same page with Henne... in fact, has he ever seemed on the same page as anyone??

But him being on the field pulled the safety deep so Bess could catch a nice 20 yard crossing pattern.

Following play, henne drastically overthrows a wide open Gates.

Man, if Gates and Tannehill developed chemistry... it would be explosive.

Let's be thankful for Fasano. he has looked great this year. Catching well. Blocking well. There's a question mark we DON'T have... because LAST year I'm watching him drop balls.

"Bpk wrote:

That reminds me, I have my PS3 in my closet. I ought to sell it.

Go buy Mass Effect 2 & 3. You'll be good for a while.

"SICK wrote:

Panthers defense is their biggest question mark. Beason missed last week with a hamstring injury. He missed all of last year with a torn achilles. Thomas Davis is "healthy" but he hasnt played an entire season since the Jimmy Carter regime. Their new rookie linebacker Luke Keuchley is a STUD.....S - T - U - D....they love him up here. Their defensive line is terrible except for Charles Johnson, greg hardy is "eh"....and their D-backs are pretty bad. Godfrey is ok, Gamble is old, and Captain Munnerlyn is "eh"

They have a lot of depth at DB's they are wanting to see more of (young guys) so it'll be fun to watch the backups.

Of course offensivley they have cam, denangelo/jstew, smitty, olsen, lafell, and watch out for tutu trying to lock down the #3 battling with louis murphy.

Thanks, Sick!

Translation - This is a good defense to start the rookie against. Less pass rush from the Dline. better chance we get the run going a bit.

Our defense is gonna be challenged. I like it. They should be further ahead than they are.

"SICK wrote:

Panthers defense is their biggest question mark. Beason missed last week with a hamstring injury. He missed all of last year with a torn achilles. Thomas Davis is "healthy" but he hasnt played an entire season since the Jimmy Carter regime. Their new rookie linebacker Luke Keuchley is a STUD.....S - T - U - D....they love him up here. Their defensive line is terrible except for Charles Johnson, greg hardy is "eh"....and their D-backs are pretty bad. Godfrey is ok, Gamble is old, and Captain Munnerlyn is "eh"

They have a lot of depth at DB's they are wanting to see more of (young guys) so it'll be fun to watch the backups.

Of course offensivley they have cam, denangelo/jstew, smitty, olsen, lafell, and watch out for tutu trying to lock down the #3 battling with louis murphy.

Pretty much, except Gamble isn't too bad in my opinion. Louis Murphy had a few good plays last game if I remember right, and Joe Adams runs around like a chicken with its head cut off on returns, hopefully our coverage team doesn't help him make the highlights.

"Tone_E wrote:

LOL. You are relentless.

The sarcasm about the -2 yards was a joke. But I'm serious about the only two carries thing. I know they started focusing on passing it more but even so, Reggie Bush and Lamar Miller had more carries and Steve Slaton had just as many.

They need to get Daniel Thomas more carries against Carolina if they want to find out whether he's really improved or not, no?

"Tone_E wrote:

And what is Mallet proving? That he would've been our savior? Far from it, against scrubs too. Mallet reduces your argument's effectiveness. Just say we moved up to get back into the 2nd round for this guy and I will agree he is under performing. But, so is the O-Line in the running game as well.

As a low 2nd round pick, Mallett wouldn't need to be a savior. Just a guy that keeps training on and eventually becomes a good quarterback, which are expensive assets in today's NFL.

"Bpk wrote:

Clyde Gates just never seemed on the same page with Henne... in fact, has he ever seemed on the same page as anyone??

But him being on the field pulled the safety deep so Bess could catch a nice 20 yard crossing pattern.

Following play, henne drastically overthrows a wide open Gates.

Man, if Gates and Tannehill developed chemistry... it would be explosive.

Chad Henne was never on the same page with anyone that was running deep. Rarely on the same chapter.

"ckparrothead wrote:

The sarcasm about the -2 yards was a joke. But I'm serious about the only two carries thing. I know they started focusing on passing it more but even so, Reggie Bush and Lamar Miller had more carries and Steve Slaton had just as many.

They need to get Daniel Thomas more carries against Carolina if they want to find out whether he's really improved or not, no?

Agreed, with the first unit as well.