I don't feel we can win any of those games after todays performance.

 

Do you think the Pats will win another game after their performance today?

There is no doubt we were thoroughly beaten today. This is the first game of the season I can say that about. The Ravens have our number. They are a very good team.

Saying that, I think we can win every game we have left.

 

i would be surprised if we win less than six games from that schedule. i think this will be a repeat of 2008 where we started slow the first half and went on a tear the 2nd

 

lets face it guys. first half of our season we lost 4 games. all to team that made playoffs last year with exception of the steelers but look at the steelers this year. they are really good and playing good and we coulda beat them no prob as well as the jets. my original thoughts were as long as we get out of the first 8 game 5-3 were good, at least we dont have a losing record.

although we lost to good team there is no excuses and we coulda won a couple! if we wanna be serious those are game we need to win!! my point, were there we just need to get over the hump and show up EVERY sunday!

 

fixed :yes:

 

Wow, we're inept now? I wasn't aware we turned into the Cowboys or the Bills all of a sudden. Seriously, We're 4-4.

Yeah, today sucked, but come on. On the road against the best Home team in the league right now after they were coming off their bye?

Deep breaths, its a tough loss, but we will win some more games this season.

 

Who cares we are not even going to compete for a wildcard in year 3.Sad.

 

we need to show up on thursday night too. lol

 

When you can't score more than ten points then yes you should be considered inept. The only teams to score less points then us are the panthers and the cowboys.

 

Rams, Seahawks and 49ers too if you're really giving a **** about those stats. Though the Phins have the 2nd least amount of TD in the entire league.

 

I was talking about in Sunday's games.

 

Well the Panthers are still the ****tiest scoring team in the league so your point was well noted

 

Even if we win 6 of 8, barring 3 epic collapses, we are not going to make the playoffs.

Toss the Chargers into the mix as well, we are bringing up the rear of the horse race in maybe 9th place.

 

The problem is you lost to ALL of the so-called "elite" teams, and only beat the teams you should have beaten. That means you are not an elite team - a team that makes it far in the playoffs.

Our goal shouldn't be to just be in the playoffs, our goal should be to WIN in the playoffs. Isn't that what Herm Edwards said ?

YouTube - Herm Edwards- Greatest Coach Ever!

Have we seen improvement since the begininng of the season ? We're halfway through. This is a young team for sure, but did that defense look like its getting better or worse since the begininng of the season ? That is something Steven Ross needs to start asking himself. Is this coaching staff satisfied with being "this team" or improving ? Because frankly I haven't seen improvement, but regression. The 1st two games we saw an enthusiastic young defense "get after it", and yesterday we saw a team that looked inept, unconfident, and unprepared. Troubling signs if you ask me.

 

though the remaining schedule is tough, its light years easier than the first half of the schedule...

would you rather play the steelers at home or the Titans? in Oakland or in Green Bay?

we have to get our offensive philosophy in order, aka take the playcalling duties away from Henning and we'll have a shot...

 

I don't think we win more than 3 more. Buffalo, while bad, plays VERY HARD and will win a game. With our home luck so far this year, it will be their only win. I think we beat Chicago, Detroit and possibly Buffalo. That means 7-9, and not much confidence with me in this coaching staff for next season. What makes you think anything will be different ?

 

The Raiders and Cleveland are no locks.

Tennessee is very tough.

If we lose to Tenn, it's bag packing time.

 

so your saying we go 4-4 against
@Buffalo, @Minnesota, Jets, NE, @GB, Pitt, @Cincy, @Balt

but will go 3-5 against
Ten, Chi, @Oak, Cle, @Jets, Buf, Det, @NE

i think our home luck is overblown... we played 3 of the best teams in the league and lost there, apparently we are not a top 5 team, but that doesn't mean we cant beat a Tennessee at home, Chicago, Cleveland, etc...

I think everyone can agree the first half of our schedule was tougher than our second half... so i dont think its impossible to get to 9-7 or 10-6, and 10-6 can grab the last wildcard spot

 

I think our confidence is shattered. I just didn't see much effort yesterday, for the 1st time on defense. I have ZERO confidence in Henning and Henne combo. Cleveland beat New England, and BADLY. Buffalo went to OT against Baltimore, in Baltimore. Detroit played the Jets to OT. Did we we play any of those teams that closely ? I know you want to be loyal to the Dolphins, we all love them, but seriously bro, take off the aqua & orange glasses and see our team for what it is. We are scoring one TD a game. That will not cut it, even against teams like Buffalo.

 

Clearly, the far tougher half of our schedule is behind us, and we came out 4-4 (really, 5-3, but who's counting :angry:).

Anyhow, of the remaining eight, I feel really good about five (Bears, Raiders, Browns, Bills, Lions), and halfway good about another (Titans). Obviously, @Jets and @Pats are going to be tough, but for the moment, let's move them over here to another bucket and focus on the other six.

We're a flawed team, but a pretty decent flawed team. We may only be good enough to hang w/ the really good teams (but fall short) right now, but I think we have what it takes to get over the B, C and D teams in this league - in which six of our eight (other than the Jets/Pats) remaining opponents reside.

Clearly, the Titans are the best of the rest of those, but I think we'll handle them at home. Our coaching staff does some of it's best work after we get embarrassed, and I think Sunday will be a big win. Then, we'll handle the pretending Bears before a trip to play gutsy Oakland. Still, the Raiders are better, but they're AFC West good, which has its limits.

The Browns? Can't take them lightly, but it's in our building, and I think we'll make Colt McCoy beat us, and I don't see that happening. Lions are scrappy, but we saw why they are the Lions yesterday. And the Bills?? Really!

Point being, I think we'll take at least six of the last eight and go 10-6, clearly missing the playoffs due to multiple tiebreakers. While I'd be disappointed, I can live with it at this point, and I'd be looking forward to next year. Now, if we can handle those six AND take one against the Pats or Jets, we may be able to sneak into the post-season. But that's a BIG if at this point.

Look, our team is flawed, but the way we are built, and our game plan is good enough to beat those six teams, just the way it was built to beat the Vikes, Pack and Cincy - not to mention Buffalo. It also won in Pittsburgh .... till the league deemed otherwise :wink2:

We need to step it up to beat the good teams, and maybe that happens in the offseason, or maybe it happens this year. Time will tell. And - yeah - a lot of it depends on Henne's development ....

 

Well said Jake.

 

I hope that we go on a tear, but I'd be happy if this team can finish 8-8. I really don't see this team finishing better than 5-11, third place in our division.:sad:

 

Wait ... you REALLY think we're only going to win one more game this season?? I know yesterday was bad, but MAN!!

 

If we play like we did yesterday I can see us winning no games.

 

Well you could say worse for the Patriots too. To me, if we go 8-8 w/ the remaining schedule, I'll be disappointed. I need at least 9-7 to keep any sort of faith in this team's leadership.

 

Expect to be disappointed. :pity:

 

Look, I'm a bit of a homer (a huge one actually) so I always look on the bright side, but I see it this way:

-We hung w/ the Jets
-We DID beat Pittsburgh :angry:
-We played the Pats very well in 2/3 aspects of the game, losing because of historic malfunction in the other third.
-As bad as yesterday was, we were a better Henne pass to Fasano and a Sean Smith "holding-on-of-the-ball" away from being up 21-20 late in the game yesterday. Not excuse, just saying that's how close we were to calling this a good effort.
-We're 4-4 (5-3 :angry::angry::angry:) after the far tougher half of our schedule. If we can't beat that performance in the last eight, it's time to move on from what's left of Tuna, Inc. However, if they get us to 5-3/6-2 over the remaining eight, I'm more than happy to have them stick around and see this thing through.

 

Why is 9-7 or 10-6, beating only the "easy" teams on your schedule some kind of great accomplishment that gives you confidence that we have the right coaches/QB?

Wanny won 10 games a few times too. If you're not making the playoffs or competing with/beating the top teams there is no real difference between 7-9 or 10-6

 

I'm surprised you can see anything with all those tears in your eyes. Stop :cry: like a little ***** already.

 

We are gonna finish 9-7. We will win every game we are supposed to win. We wont win one game where its a toss up. Its sad...but right now...I just dont see that this staff, team can win against the better teams. I dont see us beating the Jets, NE, and Tenn. And after we lose this week against Tenn. the wheels are going to come off..and the downward spiral begins.

I can honestly say I see us having a better shot at going 4-12, then 11-5 or 10-6. 0 confidence in anything aqua and orange right now.

And those games we lose.....we will probably lose all of them by a combined 5-8 plays. We are always gonna be this close.

 

I am trying to be realistic. Something you know nothing about seeing as how you have Henne on the cover for a Madden game which is something that will never happen.

 

:pity: okay......whatever :escape:

 

Well right now I think I see the team as not complete, and quite young ... winning those games at least shows me that we're not moving backwards, that's all.

Not saying I'd be super happy or anything like that, this is just the bare minimum for me to still be on board w/ this regime.

 

Those things are facts dude. You're telling me we can't beat the Bears, Lions, Browns, Bills and Raiders? Really?

 

Look, there are some very real differences of opinion here .... let's see it play out to see who has the better instincts on this one.

 

You're right, Henne won't ever be on the Madden cover. After Brees, they probably won't pick another white guy for at least a few years :lol:. You're not being anything resembling realistic though, what you're doing is more like trolling.

Might as well cue up Jim Mora:

YouTube - Jim Mora, PLAYOFFS!? The FULL and COMPLETE SPEECH

Except his team was 4-6, and his QB was some INT tossing machine named Manning. Freaking bum, he's never been on the cover of Madden either...:wink2: