Report: Dolphins Mulling Asking Mike Wallace To Restructure Deal

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  1. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And restructuring his contract in this way doesn't make him paid less. It just makes it guaranteed in exchange for kicking the can down the road. It's like the worst possible option besides maybe deciding he's done such a good job that he deserves a raise.
     
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  2. Tannephins

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    What wins in the NFL is passing efficiency, so anyone's number-one wide receiver should have a high number of yards per target, whether those are gained from route-running, sure-handedness, downfield skills, yards after the catch, or what have you. Wallace's number of yards per target in 2014 ranked 32nd in the league among wide receivers, and there wasn't a single wide receiver of the 31 above him who had a bigger salary cap hit for his team.
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

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    Since Mike is overpaid and unproductive, I say we trade him straight up for Dwayne Bowe.
     
  4. Skidrow

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    I really dont see wallace taking a pay cut. At least we arent just getting rid of a "problem child" right away though. Kudos to Hickey for trying to fix the situation
     
  5. Zounds

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    "Restructuring" a contract almost always means adding more guaranteed money or years to a contract in exchange for reducing the annual cap hit for a player. It almost never has to do with reducing the overall money paid to a player. This inst a pay cut per se.

    If the Dolphins restructure, it means they will be keeping Wallace unfortunately. I would prefer that we find a trade partner and allow his new team to restructure.
     
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  6. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Why would he want to stay here if the QB here can't hit a long ball? He will say no to a restructure, and either get paid, or become a FA and sign with a team with a QB who can match his talent with the long ball.
     
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  7. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Exactly! A few fans are struggling to grip this concept, MW11 isnt gonna go out of his way to stay here! We arent exactly what you would label a 'dynasty'.
     
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  8. Disgustipate

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    Wallace isn't going to be able to run out and replace his current contract somewhere else. He's much more likely than not to be taking a significant pay cut regardless of where he's playing in 2015.

    Nor are there that many places where he can go and hope to replicate his past success. You can pretty much count on one hand the number of teams in the league who have quarterbacks with the kind of deep accuracy that will allow you to hit a guy 40 yards down the field on the numbers.
     
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  9. Piston Honda

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    Or Pierre Garçon.
     
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  10. Fin-Omenal

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    Well, if you watched football on Sunday's I think you would realize you are wrong. Go look at Russell Wilson's deep balls in these playoffs alone. And he's not throwing to elite deep threats, he is throwing to guys like Ricardo Lockette.

    Just watch some games, then maybe you will start to understand how it works a little better.
     
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  11. MikeHoncho

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    This
     
  12. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Well, I guess MW11 is in luck, the three teams I've heard as possible landing spots/trade partners are NO, SEA, and IND, who are 3 teams with QBs who can chuck downfield with ease.
     
  13. MrClean

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    RT's passer rating when targeting Wallace was 115 in 2014. So, you're saying having Wallace to throw to helps us win.
     
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  14. Tannephins

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    That was fueled by touchdowns and the absence of interceptions, both of which vary a great deal from year to year, rather than passing efficiency, which does not.
     
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    Which means it could also Vary in favor of both becoming more productive together.
     
  16. MrClean

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    Ohhh, that's right, you equate passing efficiency to YPA and nothing else, as I recall. So it must be Wallace's fault that most of the time he gets wide open deep, RT cannot hit him. And, I am sure it is Wallace's fault that the OL often holds back pass rushers like a sieve holds in water, which means RT often has pressure in face too soon for Wallace to get open deep.
     
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  17. Piston Honda

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    Isn't scoring TDs the whole point?

    There's a lot of talk about how RT and Wallace arent on the same page, MW doesn't fit etc, as a stats guy do the numbers support that?
     
  18. Tannephins

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    In this case I'll refrain from arguing the philosophical difference between causal attributions to individual players versus their surroundings, and simply point out that, regardless of where the blame lies, the fact remains that the team's number-one receiver, and one whose salary cap hit is among the highest in the league at any position, isn't producing in a way that's consistent with winning according to the most important measures. We can go 'round and 'round about who's to blame, but that fact will still remain.
     
  19. KB21

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    This. Their is a lack of understanding in how contract restructuring works. In a contract restructuring, you guarantee a portion of the base salary and give it in a bonus to spread it out over the remaining years of the contract, cutting the cap number for this year only. It's a move that has gotten a lot of teams into salary cap trouble.

    Of course Mike will be willing to restructure his deal. He will still get his money, only now more will be guaranteed to him. The total amount of $60 million over the life of the deal will not be decreased. He also knows he will never make money like this again. If he hits the open market, $12 million a year on average is a pipe dream for him at this time. Based on his play in Miami, he's lucky if he gets half that. Now he has the diva label attached to him, which I told you he would be before he ever signed 2 years ago, but no one would listen.

    It is not hard to find a receiver with Mike's skill set. He's a one dimensional speed receiver that is below average in every other aspect of playing the position. Draft Phillip Dorsett in the 2nd round, and you have effectively replaced a team cancer with a much cheaper player.
     
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    Exactly! There is no way he will refuse a restructuring, because if he does and is cut, he will never replace the salary he is going to lose. I hope he wants to force his way out of Miami. Good riddance to bad rubbish in that case. I have very little tolerance for players that behave like Mike has, but if you paid attention to his time in Pittsburgh, you would have known it would be this way. He did admit to losing focus when he wasn't getting the ball while in Pittsburgh.

    Mike Wallace is a great example of why Jeff Ireland was a terrible general manager. Jeff could evaluate talent, but he had no clue at roster construction. First of all, Mike Wallace was a terrible fit for the offense Joe Philbin and Mike Sherman were running at the time he signed. You don't put a one dimensional deep threat who is a terrible route runner into a system where route running and the ability to catch the ball is paramount. It also shows that while he can evaluate talent, he has a hard time building upon the strengths of certain players. Ryan's strength as a passer is in the intermediate game. He's not nearly as bad on the deep ball as some want to make out. Mike has his share of the fault in that as well since he will not extend himself to catch something that is outside of his frame. Ryan's strength is the intermediate game though, and Jeff drops $30 million guaranteed onto a receiver whose intermediate game is complete and utter crap.
     
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  21. Fin-Omenal

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    Your player evaluating skills need some fine tuning sir. Best of luck.
     
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  22. Disgustipate

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    Does the Seattle Seahawks(a singular football team) somehow exceed the number of teams that would constitute a handful?

    I realize this is very much a huge work in progress, but maybe like identify some sort of rational, identifiable conflict before you launch into the genuinely awkward attempts to condescend?
     
  23. KB21

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    Anyone who thinks that Mike's intermediate game is better than crap needs to fine tune their evaluation skills.
     
  24. Fin-Omenal

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    His 10TDs must have been long plays then im guessing.
     
  25. Sceeto

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    OMG. It's come back just to spew the same nonsensical, tired old "proven wrong" BS. :favre:
     

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