Report: Fins discussing 7 year $105 million deal for Tannehill

The one thing the QB's you listed in your first five names are also the QB's who either got them teams to the SB or within a game of the big game. Manning was obviously the one name on your list of five who failed to get his team to at the the championship game in his conference.

Perhaps you are correct that there are only a limited number of QB's who can be elite type QB's. Unfortunately that is the type of QB you need if you don't have a great defense and even the great Seahawks defense couldn't stop Brady in the 4th quarter of the SB.

To me it is all about having a QB who can lead his team to the playoffs and win the SB. Anything less than a SB victory and your team is merely one of the thirty one teams which are ultimately losers in the NFL.

I agree that the second list of QB's you named did not do the things I listed earlier and that is also why many of their teams did not make the playoffs or in the case Dalton and Flacco, their teams were gone after the first round of the playoffs.

I just question if Tannehill will ever be more than an average QB in the NFL and it takes someone a lot better than average to win a championship in the NFL today.

 

Well, to be fair, the Seahawks offense kinda screwed their defense by that turnover at the end.

 

Maybe wait and see how the deal is structured?

 

He's already above average dude...the stats and eye test both support it. He's not Dan2, but certainly above average.

 

Above average sucks...

 

What did I do!?

 

Nothing...just a FH trollage.

 

I see you complain about Tannehill. A lot. Who would you like to see him replaced with? Who would you draft to replace him? Would you be willing to give a new draft pick time to develop, or do you expect that he would come into the league setting passing records in his rookie season?

 

If you don't feed it, it will eventually find its bridge.

 

As an NFL QB, I still consider him an average QB. If you want to consider him above average, I'm okay with that. I just don't happen to agree with you.

I think it is difficult to consider any QB who has a losing record after three years as the starting QB of a team as an above average QB.

 

You know what's funny? Tannehill is rather well liked by other nfl teams. (Some) Dolphins fans are probably his biggest naysayers.


Saw a crazy stat today on reddit. Did you know the eagles, bears, and seahawks have NEVER had a 4000 yd passer? Tell me again how avg tannehill is...

(Threads actually fascinating http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/2vfilv/the_last_time_your_franchise_had_someone_with/)

 

I don't know about all that...7200 posts, and been here since 2007. Don't think he's looking for any bridges.

 

That statement is a joke lol If RT17 didnt get 4000 yards this year, I would of been quite upset considering how many times we threw the ball this year. Even then, he barely broke 4000, which shows in his very low YPA.

 

And he got this record all by his little self... Oh My! The other 21 players on the field ought to storm Ross's office and demand a better Quarterback... It's all HIS fault..

GET REAL!! E-BLOODY-GAD!

 

A joke? Last time I checked the Eagles never ran the damn ball when they had mcnabb, and yet he never accomplished this feat. Westbrook rarely, ever, ran the ball more than 15 times.

Think of some of the names who have never hit this number. Jim mcmahom, Donovan mcnabb, Jay cutler (on the bears), golden boy Russell wilson, etc


The jets haven't had someone do it since namath.

 

Russell Wilson > Ryan Tannehill.. (Says just about everyone on planet earth)

 

Lol way to throw a super raw rookie into equation.

 

Miami Dolphins had the lowest TV ratings in all of the NFL, or near it. Which means I highly doubt other fans have watched him enough to make their opinion credible. Theyre going by stats but not winning. In this passing league an average quarterback like Kyle Orton can pass 4000, but can he get a team to a playoff game? Thats the difference between average and good.

 

McMahon and McNabb played all or mostly before the rule changes in the mid 2000's. You know, when ALL of Dan's records started falling like dominos? Notice how of the passing TDs the top 10 are all post 2005 rule changes except Dan with two spots? The closest anyone got was Favre and Warner with 39 and 41. McNabb got real close and guess what, after 2004/5.

Jon Kitna threw for 4,200 yards post 2004 so I'm not sure 4,000 is all that great. Congrats Tannehill you are now Jon Kitna good.

Wilson has never been paraded as prolific, but he has more total yards than Tannehill last year. Cutler yeah he was at 3,812 in 15 games, he's hurt often yeah I know. If you want to say Tannehill is Cutler level I'm not sure that's saying much. Tony Romo was far behind Tannehill in yardage but had a much much better season statistically. Much better. It's an achievement without much substance except for one thing. He had a good accuracy % number. Anything around 65% I consider great/elite. Can he keep those numbers up with longer passes? How many passes were to Landry, who's catches all year averaged 4 yards from the LOS? Need to see some more down the field stuff. Even if not 30 yards.

 

My experience is that friends/people I know who watch the Dolphins once per year (when they play their team) have consistently said that Tannehill is a lot better than what they expected based on what Dolphins fans say online and what is said on ESPN.

 

How many QBs that one would call average, threw for 4k yards this season? Since its so easy, and everything.

 

Both times Jon Kitna threw for over 4,000 yards he had over 20 interceptions.

 

I think everyone watching could see that the Raiders game was when he started to grasp the new offense a little better. If we are talking that game and forward, we are looking at 7.3 + YPA and 69% kind of stats.

 

Lol congrats, his REAL YPA was 6.9 though.

 

RT17 is more developed then Carr. That simple. RT17 SHOULD be throwing for 4000 at the alarming rate of attempts he has. Carr on the other hand is a rookie on a terrible team. See the difference now?

 

and?

 

Yup, correct. But, if we aren't going to make projections what is the point of discussing it? Last year's stats are set in stone and our own fans can use YPA to discredit his fairly impressive season all offseason. That is fine.

But, I personally think it is more likely we see the guy who played the final 13 games a certain way versus the guy playing his first 3 in a new offense. And in those final 13 he was playing like a top ten guy in my opinion.

 

Please don't be logical, Linus.

 

Yea patriots fans maybe.

After that atrocious packers game and rather unimpressive super bowl I highly doubt the whole world has that high an opinion of golden boy wilson.

 

No, just about everybody except Dolphins would rather have Wilson then Tannehill. I dont expect you to understand.

 

Since, you like to play the 'projections' game, I will play.

If RW3 had the same amount of attempts as RT17, he would of threw for way more yards then RT17 considering RW3 had a 7.6 YPA compared to RT17's 6.9 YPA. That right there is a 'projection' game that you like to play.

 

Well, he was 14th in rating, and 11th in yards. That's pretty average, no?

 

You'd seriously rather have Ryan Tannehill than Russell Wilson?

 

So...are you saying that there was only one average player who threw for 4k yards? I guess it's not that easy, then? And if he was the only "average" guy to throw for it, wouldn't that make him not average?

 

and?

 

What's so controversial about that opinion?

 

Yes.

Give Ryan tannehill Kam chancellor, earl thomas, richard sherman, bobby wagner, Michael bennett and just about that entire ****ing defense and I believe tannehills considered elite.

Our defense did not step up to the plate once this year. Ryan faltered against the packers, but got us the lead late. Defense blew it. Got us the lead late in detroit, defense blew it. Ryan went back and forth with Peyton Manning all day in Denver, defense blew it.

Want a 2014 season recap? Here it is.

defense ****ing blew it