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Report that Nolan will help to guide Superman reboot

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Miamian, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

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  3. Fin D

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    As long as they don't make him a ***** anymore, and enough with Lex Luthor. Superman's character is all about his power, so give him a villan to use those powers against, like Metallo, for example.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I do not mind Lex Luthor if they make him someone that is actually awesome and not a Gene Hackman ripoff goofball.

    A businessman Lex would be perfect.
     
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  5. Miamian

    Miamian Senior Member

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    I'm a little tired of Lex also. He should only have a background or cameo at most.
     
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  6. NaboCane

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    Great article!
     
  7. Desides

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    Luthor is actually the perfect foil, because he outthinks rather than outduels Superman. The movies have definitely overused him, though. But to be fair, Superman's villains are all pretty bad. Who else are they going to use? Doomsday? Yeah, Superman dies at the end, great sequel potential there. Darkseid? No one cares, plus even Batman can beat Darkseid.

    Nolan needs to worry more about finishing what he began with Batman.
     
  8. Fin D

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    I'm not saying he isn't a perfect foil...in comic books and cartoons. Live action is another story, though. As I said, I think Metallo would be a decent choice, or even reboot General Zod.
     
  9. Desides

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    I think the best choice would be to not make a new Superman movie in the first place. :lol:
     
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    Honestly I do not care about who the bad guy is, it is all about the story.
     
  11. Pauly

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    I'd like to see a 1940s/1950s era Superman.

    Faster than a speeding bullet - but not so fast he can turn back time
    Able to leap tall buildings - That's leap, not fly.
    Stronger than a locomotive - Not more powerful than 50 atom bombs.

    Superman's powers have expanded to the point where he is godlike and he either has to battle other godlike beings or ye olde cliche ridden used eleventy gazillion times already kryptonite has to come out of the closet.

    In his current form superman is just too powerful to create drama.
     
  12. phunwin

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    You're right, but please, don't use "plausible" and "The Dark Knight" in the same sentence. I love it, it's one of my 10 favorite movies of all time, but the Joker's plot was like something that Rube Goldberg would come up with if he were a supervillain.

    I couldn't agree more. And that, I think, is what Desides is saying as well. That's why Luthor almost HAS to be the villain; Superman's other villains sucked, and the only one who didn't (Doomsday) killed him. But Luthor is absolutely played out.

    So, if they're set on making a movie (and, again, I agree with Desides, I wouldn't make one in the first place), you're left with the following options:
    1. "dumb him down" to Golden Age Superman, which is a great idea except that audiences would be like "uh, WTF? I thought Superman could lift objects the size of a small planet."
    2. Bring back Luthor yet again, and hope that Chris Nolan can find something new in a character that's already been played by two of the best actors in recent memory. (Fwiw, I loved Kevin Spacey's Luthor, even though having him work with the cast of Superman Returns was like Dan Marino on the '88 Dolphins.) Unfortunately, if this thread is any indication, audiences are sick and tired of Luthor.
    3. Use Doomsday, setting up the inevitable "Superman dies at the end" finale that leads to a sequel where he comes back to life, hopefully skipping over the Four Supermen storyline. This actually strikes me as the most likely with Nolan involved. Superman ain't exactly a grim n' gritty character, and if that's the direction Nolan wants to go (and it obviously is, that's his bread and butter), killing the dude off after an insanely brutal fight is about the best you're getting.
     
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    i don't know about y'all, but i think Nolan needs to worry about the Dolphins defense, before he goes out trying to make Superman movies... :shifty:
     
  14. Miamian

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    Just so that we're on the same page, what do you find about TDK that's implausible?

    As far as the villains go, Brainiac, under Nolan's guidance, could be very interesting.
     
  15. phunwin

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    Look at the Joker's final plot. There's nothing in and of itself wrong with it, it just relies on about 20 different improbable things happening at just the right time.
     
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    The Joker is supposed to be the Rube Goldberg of criminals. He's doing it the hard way for extra style points.
     
  17. phunwin

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    I'm cool with that. Like I said, I love the movie. I just want it known that it's implausible in the extreme.
     
  18. ILPhinFan88

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    David Goyer to Write the New Superman Movie!

    Latino Review has broken the news that David Goyer will write the new Superman movie, to be titled The Man of Steel!

    The site's scooper said that Goyer "had an idea that actually takes the movies back to the John Byrne incarnation. Modern. Believable. FUN!"

    The site adds that Brandon Routh will not star in the film and Bryan Singer is not expected to direct.

    About the story, the scooper adds: "I can tell you that Goyer's story involves Luthor and Brainiac. It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry. I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet. And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology."


    http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=9101
     
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    Sounds good.

    Glad they're dumping the yawn-inspiring cast and hopefully this time they can come up with an unknown with a personality.

    Introducing Braniac to the screen is a great move, but it's disappointing that they're dredging up Luthor AGAIN. Jeez...if you're going to reboot, can't you be a little original?
     
  20. Dannyg28

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    If you are gonna go for a gritty realistic reboot, i think Luthor is pretty much the only character you can choose, apart from teh fact he is superman's best villain, a shady business man playing puppet master and pulling strings from behind is probably the best choice. Its not like batman, whose host of villians were all somewhat plausible as batman doesnt have the strength of a god to help him, all of superman's villains are pretty much absurd for the most part. I think the bigger mistake is the tfact that they over saturated Luthor in the first place rather than selecting him again.
     
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    If they took their cue from The Dark Knight, a villain previously unused in film - Ras al-Ghul - was a significant factor in the renewal of that franchise.

    Similarly, Braniac could be that fresh factor for the Superman franchise. That character has never been used as a villain on film, and would separate this reboot from all previous Superman incarnations.
     

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