How fast us Titans and Dolphins forget him? I remember one time ago he was a pretty good WR2 on our roster.. but than I lost all the respect in the world I had for him when he flat out quit on our team.
What is he doing nowdays? It seems as if he is enjoying his retirement, sad beacause I think he had alot left when he decided to quit half way through the season. Did he just not love the game anymore, or what? Its pretty strange how weird he actually left the league...not sure if I ever seen an athlete just quit and not show any interest anymore.
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I never understood the Rishard love this fanbase had. He was always just a JAG to me, but people here thought he crapped angel kisses.
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He got put in Philbin’s doghouse for reasons unknown. He consistently outplayed people listed above him on the depth chart, but never got a fair opportunity. I think a lot of fans had sympathy for him here because they felt he was being unfairly treated, and his subsequent performance in Tennessee showed he was worth a lot more more than what Philbin thought he was.
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If a guy is in the doghouse but has some talent and not in trouble with the law (and even sometimes then sadly) people always assume the coach is treating them unfairly. Its as if talent is all that matters.
Why did everyone assume Rishard was treated unfairly? They have no idea what goes on behind the cameras. He may have been treated unfairly he also may have been a problem in the locker room. We don't know. I will say this, he was sent packing and not by Philbin and he also ended up just quitting on the Titans soooooooo, maybe the problem was him.
I just think we, as a whole, need to stop making "talent" the only thing that matters. I don't just mean as fans, but as a country. Being a good person means much more.AGuyNamedAlex, resnor and Unlucky 13 like this. -
He had two ok seasons in Tennessee, then they cut him, then the Jets cut him, and he was done. Out of football before he turned 30. -
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He was a legitimate slot WR that people wanted too much extra out of. Then when he left I believe some mental circumstances beyond his control made his career spiral down.Bumrush likes this. -
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2) The coach’s job is, in part, personality management. A failure to manage a player should never be assumed to be the coach’s faukt or the players fault. Good coaches are much more successful at managing personality issues than mediocre coaches.
3) A player who consistently outplays the players above him on the depth chart over a period of years and is not not promoted is being treated unfairly.
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He also didn't consistently outplay the players above him.Unlucky 13 likes this. -
And no matter who a player is, even a high draft pick being paid top dollar, if he's insulting the coaches and giving them a hard time, is that what should be rewarded by a starring role and playing time? That's not how a coach builds a team and holds it together very long.
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Hmmm, Seems like Fin D is onto something here....
Cant believe I've missed this.
“Was straight until punk (expletive) LaFleur came through,” Matthews said, via Allan Bell of 247 Sports. “[LaFleur] told me I had to earn my starting spot back and that wasn’t going to happen anytime soon. Then bounced after one year. I probably should have gutted it out but that guy was too disrespectful and not a guy that lets someone (expletive) on your face then spend every day as if it didn’t happen. So you make decisions and you move on.”
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He shouldve attempted to have a Rodgers day last Sunday...
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Rogers is still upper echelon but he did not carry the team at all, and regressed noticeably.
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I liked, and still like Hartline. He did a lot of the things that I want a #2 outside WR to do. The problem was that the Dolphins didn't have a #1 outside WR while he was there, and they didn't have a true TE either. Had he regularly been the #3 or #4 target, I think that he would be looked at differently.
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Packers are fd up, this loser coach just won 13 games. Gave mirage that hes a somebody. He sucks. Titans got much better without him. Packers had a cakewalk schedule. First 11+ win team to have more yards against than yards gained in last 20 years. Pussyfooted off a terrible schedule and wound up vastly out coached when it mattered. LaFleur sucks. I fell sorry for Packer fans with first place schedule next year will probably be ugly with training wheels as their coach. -
I never said he was a number 1 WR or the standard bearer of what a number 1 should look like. He far exceeded the initial expectations people had for him and was a great security blanket for Tannehill. It's not his fault that Philbo the Clown or Sparano couldn't develop an offense. Also note that in 2010 and 2011 Brandon Marshall was on the team. In 2013 and 2014 Mike Wallace was the #1 WR.
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If anything, Brian Hartline is how Landry should have been viewed when Miami let him walk. I was opposed to letting Landry go but now that he is gone I'm thrilled Miami didn't sign him to a massive contract. Landry should have been viewed as a tougher version of Hartline.Unlucky 13 likes this. -
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It's above average for a WR. Average for a #1. Hartline should not have been a #1 WR. He performed like an average one. He was a 3rd WR at best.
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Well like I said, you're complaining that he was used as the #1 WR. That's not his fault, thats on the Fins coaches and front office. He was generally somewhere about the 30th to 50th best WR in the league in his prime. If you look at him through that viewpoint, I don't get the anger.
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