He didn't really say that. Just that they won't throw him out there just because he was our 1st round pick.

 

I expect Garrard to be the game one starter. Moore had a nice run to close out the season, but from what I've seen, this will be a system right in Garrard's wheel house.

 

Ross said what I think most people feel this staff will do in handling Tannehill. They're not going to play him before he is ready and they're not going to expect him to set the world on fire right away. It's going to be a learning process for him. That being said, if he's the best QB out there at the start of the season, I believe he'll be the starting QB on day 1. You don't want to rush him, but there's no sense in sitting him if he doesn't need it. There are always growing pains for a first year starting QB and if it's not going to stunt his growth, you'd rather get those out of the way now rather than wait a year to do that. I think it's 50/50 right now whether he starts from day 1 and it will be up to him to earn in in camp and pre season.

 

He doesn't expect Tannehill to start??????

Well...DUH!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's the only thing he can say.
Saying anything else is setting up the fans for disappointment, and setting Tannehill up to fail.

 

He has to be tempered. He made a huge misstep with previous players.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true&id=09000d5d81881963

 

Clearly a sign of buyer's remorse on Ryan Tannehill.

 

This sounds like Ross is parroting what Philbin probably told him. (which is wise, IMO).

 

Eh, should have stuck with the stock "it's a competition" stuff.

 

*cough* laugh *cough*

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Agree with you.

 

I want Joe Robbie back...

 

There's also this:

 

I still believe the smart money is on Garrard to be the starter week 1

 

As much as Garrard or Moore starting would likely be a minor step back, if that's what's best for Tanny, that's fine with most fans. However, if we start off slowly, the pressure will be on to stick Tanny in there. I'm of the persuasion that if he's ready, he'll start. The kid is very studious and a coach's son, so it'll be an easier transition to this level, but how can you replace the action of reading defenses that he's missed at the collegiate level...that will be the issue. I think that whether he sits for a year or a week or not at all, he'll have some 'on the field' growing pains...

 

I was about to say the same but I chose the snarky sarcastic route instead.

Joe Philbin strikes me as a guy that will absolutely, positively sit a guy for at least a year, and think nothing of it.

 

Snarky, sarcastic? shocking! LOL

I agree about Philbin. People mention the pressure to start Tannehill, but I don't think it will impact Philbin. I fully expect to see posts here about how Tannehill was the wrong pick, obviously wasn't as smart as thought, etc., if Moore or Garrard isn't playing well and Tannehill isn't named the starter. But Philbin has prepared Ross for that. He'll say this things like "this too will pass" just like we saw the quick turnaround of opinion on Ireland. If Miami puts in Tannehill when he's ready and obviuosly Tannehill plays well, then the opinions of the mostly impatient fanbase will turnaround just as quickly.

 

From Joe Philbin's standpoint, they sat Aaron Rodgers for three years up in Green Bay and were never worse for wear because of it. So if Miami is having success with the QBs then it wouldn't shock me if we're in for a two year haul with Tannehill on the bench.

 

Tanny was a top 10 pick. Our other QBs on the roster leave something to be desired, to say the least...

I see no way RT isn't starting by week 8 at the latest. JMO.

 

He has to do, Ross.

 

I really like the way Ross seems to either have the football sense or listen to his coaches and not interfere with them. I am liking Ross more & more as an owner, I truly believe Ross will do whatever it takes from an owner's perspective to make this franchise relevant again and get this team back to consistent yearly playoff and even SB contenders.

 

I like Ryan Tannehill. I always have. But there's still a part of me reading all the stories coming out of Cleveland about the city and team's emerging love affair with Brandon Weeden, and I'm jealous. Fair or not, it's already crystal clear to them that Brandon Weeden 1) is the starter, and 2) looks like a franchise quarterback. That doesn't mean they're right about the latter, but there's very little doubt amongst all people looking on at practice, from what I can tell.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/06/brandon_weeden_has_the_look_of.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/49180/weeden-has-the-look-of-a-franchise-qb

Hell, pretty soon that love affair will get into NC-17 territory, the way it's going. And yeah, a part of me is jealous.

 

^^ It's Cleveland.

 

This was predictable imo, and your not the only who is jealous..Obviously we don't know how Tannehill is gonna play out, but there was a conviction about Weeden that doesn't come along as often as I would like when evaluating players..I felt the same about Russell Wilson, and was willing to manipulate the draft to aquire either player combined with the other pick we would of got at 8 over just Tannehill at 8.

 

To get back on track with Miami topics, Cleveland sources took a shot at Ryan Tannehill in describing to Tony Grossi why they went with Weeden.

They also took shots at Robert Griffin and Matt Flynn. On Griffin they said they felt he was too small and too eager to show off how fast he was, that they really only investigated the trade to the extent that they could say they covered their bases and say they did. On Flynn they said he's the same size as McCoy and has the same popgun arm, and they were never really interested in him at all.

 

You really have to take everything that comes out of Cleveland and that FO as a joke until proven otherwise at this point.

QB talk especially.

 

Agreed with them on Flynn to a tee, don't agree on RG, when it comes to Tannehill, you never know how a man can become a leader, but just on a surface level, I didnt have him as having great leadership qualities.

 

I agree with them on Robert Griffin and I don't agree with them on Matt Flynn.

I think there's a ring of truth there about Ryan Tannehill when you get him in a room and talk with him. But I get the feeling he's a little more natural when he's on the field with other players, probably more of a leader in that setting. Chad Henne was similar that way. Tannehill is still a bit starry-eyed when it comes to interviewing, dealing with media, etc.

Players aren't drawn to Weeden as a leader because of age, they're drawn to him because of confidence and talent. When you combine those two things with the simple fact that he actually makes an effort to be a leader, that's really all you need. You can argue til the cows come home if that's all a function of age or not but it doesn't matter. Seen too many 28 years olds that don't have it, and too many 22-23 year olds that do have it, to get caught up in the age.

I'd say experience and role playing were the keys in Weeden's development as a leader. He wasn't all that confident when he got to Oklahoma State and he was just trying to work his way up the ladder as a third stringer. He hadn't rounded into great form yet as a quarterback, was still trying to get back on the track he got on in his last two years of high school, and he was an anonymous backup so he didn't feel like he had to make great effort to be a leader. The result was he looked real laid back and it turned Mike Gundy off. He got his opportunity and that was the point at which he started getting more confidence in himself, and also realized he's now playing a role in which he needs to make an effort to be a leader. Suddenly, that laid back guy that turned you off with his lax demeanor, is a great leader.

 

I don't remember Tannehill's leadership ever questioned. I've heard he's raw, has problems with deep ball accuracy, etc., but never that his leadership abilities were in question....I mean until Cleveland says so.

 

His leadership was never really cited by anyone other than Mike Sherman, either.

Be your own judge. Ryan's had plenty of face time with the media at this point, plenty of interviews, etc. He is who he is. Do you imagine sitting in a room with him and feeling like he's the swinging dick that everyone takes their cues from? I don't.

Not saying it's necessary. Half the QBs out there I don't imagine being great leaders. And half the ones that supposedly are, aren't really as great leaders as people let on. And of the ones that are, many weren't when they were less experienced. It's probably not important. But at the same time, they're not wrong.

 

I'm only going on my own instinct from what I've seen, not saying there is reason for concern, just saying that I took what I felt into account when deciding that I wanted to go with a scenario of Weeden or Wilson in the draft, in that order.

 

i believe this is spot on, great assessment. watching weeden in gruden camp he just plainly stated something along the lines of "i'm gonna make some throws" or "i'm gonna throw some touchdowns" some statement like that. it wasn't cocky or arrogant or contrived, it was a statement and he believed it,,, people will gravitate towards that with his talent to back it up. dudes a player and he's gonna be good. i hope tannehill gets there, but i think weeden will be good this season, maybe really good.

 

I loved Weedon as a prospect and I expect and believe he'll do well, but I preferred Tannehill primarily due to his longer window. I could easily envision a scenario where Weedon looks like the better QB for the first 3 - 4 years, but that Tannehill is close and still very good. By years 5 - 6 Tannehill surpasses Weedon. Then Weedon retires after about 7 - 8 years while Tannehill continues for another 3 - 4 years and is seen to have the better career overall.

 

I don't know about you, but I prefer to not be in a room with somebody who's swinging dick. :wink2:

Didn't Tom Brady evolve into a leader over time? I don't remember him being the guy barking at others (like he is now) in his first few years in the league. I think (and hope) that what happens with Ryan is similar to what you are saying with Weeden. That gaining confidence and being "the guy" will turn him into that strong leader.

 

this is what I'm hoping for.