You clearly don't know our Dear Owner and our Esteemed General Manager.

The only question i want them to ask Manning is: "Peyton, is your momma a whore?"

 

Lol. If I were making a multi-million dollar investment I would do a thorough checkup.

 

Because asking if someones mother is a prostitute is way out if line when someone tells you there father was a pimp and their mother worked for him.

 

That question is out of line in any possible context.

 

Not when you're offering someone a multimillion dollar contract.

 

Since you came on this board you haven't made one positive comment, yeah I know the dolphins have made you pessimistic blah blah blah just like all of us we've been let down in the past, but would it kill you to be a little less hopeless about everything someone posts.

And I think we have all had enough of the Ireland "whore" references about every player he talks to.

 

Yeah really, I`m getting sick of it.

 

Luckily both Stephen Ross and Jeff Ireland are active members on this board.

 

Manning has already said he will be healthy and will play in 2012.
Pointless thread.....

ADMIN EDIT: Rude, obtuse and not even on topic.

Do better or abstain from participating in the thread.

 

We're staying on topic now.

A someone who wants this to happen, I think it would be a mistake to pay a guy millions upon millions of dollars and simply take his word for it. We may not physically examine him. We may not insist that he throw. But at a minimum, medical research and consultations will need to be done. And personally, I'd need for him to throw so I could see where we are right now. I think that's more than fair. If he doesn't want to throw -- and the world knows he's been throwing, mind you -- then I think you pause.

I have zero doubts that Peyton believes he'll play in 2012. But that doesn't make it so. Dan Marino was still confident during the 1999 season as his body finally fell apart, thanks to nerve damage (sound familiar?) and his legs being shot. That's what makes these guys so great; that supreme and unshakable confidence in themselves and their abilities.

 

I'm not pessimistic or hopeless. At this point I am just apathetic. Until they show me something different, i will remain stoic to every decision they take. But, you can never lose your sense of humor. Sarcasm works well.

 

Not at all. Millions of dollars at stake.and someone who could possibly come from that world its.completely in line

 

Rude, obtuse and not even on topic.

Do better or abstain from participating in the thread.

 

Hmm. He wasn't a very good pro quarterback so can understand the switch to pimping.

 

I want to see him throw the full route tree, and then come back the next day and do it again. Manning has to prove that is he capable of still playing. It is never incumbent on a potential employer to assume that the person in consideration is fully capable of doing the job, it is the duty of the person who wants the job to prove he can do it. If he wants the money, and he wants to play, show that he still has what it takes. And 70% of anyone at 36 whose rehab is incomplete and is more than likely going to decline as the season progresses is sure as #&!! not going to better than a 75% of Manning younger draftee QB with his health and youth who will improve with coaching. That 70% stuff is better than anything we are going to have is udder bovine scatology even if you fudged the probability tables.

 

So Ross should do what Irsay did last year? That worked out well. LOL

 

To invest in Manning you would only hope they would make sure he could perform.

 

I would hope that we would investigate his health, if Manning is offended by that then he shouldn't sign here. I would love to see a healthy Manning play here for a couple of seasons but if we sign a broken down Manning without checking him out we would just be proving all of the media and fair weather fans that blast the FO right because we'd have a front office that is desperate and doesn't know what its doing.

 

I don't think they will read this.

 

Sorry Muck. Looked like it was established than Manning feels real good about playing in 2012. Thus the visits.
Seemed redundant for a new Manning thread.
No problems with the OP. Hopefully.

 

I like the fact that Ireland isn't politically correct and gets straight to the point. Why would you ask, "What does your mother do for your father?" when you could just ask, "So your mom is a prostitute?" Ireland is my type of man.

 

I can understand the OP's point, one I believe Ross identifies with, and views as a role which he appears to have placed upon himself to fulfill, as the good cop/ surrogate Irsay.
Whatever the case, it allows Ireland to serve as bad cop, who follows the standard protocol, in conducting a thorough performance evaluation. A mere formality of course, but required of all players on the team. Nothing personal, its only business.

 

I totally agree. I am starting to think this guy is a Jets fan just trying to stir up trouble.

 

70% of the old Manning isn't even an NFL caliber QB...Maybe 95%...what separates Manning is his head. However, whether or not he throws, the question is where is he now and if he's only 70%, then he won't be landing on teams yet.

Look, Manning will have no respect for Irish or Ross or Philbin if they don't do their due diligence with him. He won't sign here simply because Ross writes the biggest check because even Ross can't write a check that blows him out of the water compared to other teams, we still have fit him under the cap. He has other priorities...like winning football games. If our guys just schmooz him and don't ask the right questions of him, ask him to show his wares, talk with him about the right offense to run, about the weapons we have or may have, etc...he won't think twice about signing elsewhere...

Whether we get this done or not won't necessarily be due to Ross not willing to pay or Ireland asking whether Peyton's neighbors great grand mother was a saloon girl...

 

Call me crazy, but this is what I've been thinking as well. I think the team that lands Manning is the one that shows him trust. In other words, it's the owner/FO that says "we believe in you Peyton." So, if he says he's good to go (or will be) and they say OK, we don't need to see you throw or have you examined by team doctors. Let's just agree to a deal and get this thing going. I think that's what will win Peyton over. Just believe in him.

 

No, that was not my point at all. But, thanks for baseless accusation just the same. :pity:

 

If we seriously sign Manning without thorough testing via medical examination and QB workouts, then we deserve whatever horrible season we may get as a result of it.

 

So if Denver and AZ jumped off a bridge does that mean Miami should?