Roster Moves - Releases and Free Agent Signings

"danmarino wrote:

Still flailing and wrong I see… man you’re bad at this. Kyle Pitts had more receptions (53) and yards (628) than Smith last season.

Go back and read my posts. The math is 3rd grade level so I can see why that confuses you, but I always said if the Dolphins wanted to keep these guys they could get to around $80m under the cap. I also said that would depend on the money they were offered elsewhere. Paying Wilkins and Hunt nearly $50m AAV would have been insane. You’re OK with that it seems. The Dolphins and most other rational people are not.

Yes Pitts did, but not the other TE's you referred too, man just go back to club you cant handle it here.

"they could get to around $80m under the cap" LOL OMG dude even funnier ... Dolphins are like 3.8 under with several restructures. LOL Dude are you for real?

"danmarino wrote:

Do you even realize who the Dolphins have signed? Lmao…
Cry harder and stay lost.

Yes, other then the TE and maybe the one LB, they are signing roster fodder. Not hard for some of us to comprehend, I now realize you can't.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Yes Pitts did, but not the other TE's you referred too, man just go back to club you cant handle it here.

"they could get to around $80m under the cap" LOL OMG dude even funnier ... Dolphins are like 3.8 under with several restructures. LOL Dude are you for real?

Surprised Chris Grier didn't check in with danmarino on thephins.com. Could have kept all our guys.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Surprised Chris Grier didn't check in with danmarino on thephins.com. Could have kept all our guys.

Yep! Clearly we have the wrong GM running this team. Danmarino would have us not 70 million under but 80 million under and all our players being resigned plus several other quality players.

"dolphin25 wrote:

I love Sieler, but how will he be without Willkins next to him and he takes on all the double teams?

How will Wilkins do without Sieler. Sieler had more sacks last year, and averages about the same as Wilkins over their careers. Both had about the same number of tackles. Yet Sieler is getting paid far less.

"StaleTacos wrote:

You lost the highest rated player from PFF on defense in AVG in a position of MASSIVE need. You lost the core and the leader on defense in Wilkins. You need 2 starting DTs, starting corner, starting safety, two starting guards, starting inside LB, starting center and 2 starting edge players, and a few WRs.

Much worse isn't overplayed. It's the reality with the cap and what you have in picks, and what you need.

Don’t you mean WE lost…?

"dolphin25 wrote:

Yes Pitts did, but not the other TE's you referred too, man just go back to club you cant handle it here.

"they could get to around $80m under the cap" LOL OMG dude even funnier ... Dolphins are like 3.8 under with several restructures. LOL Dude are you for real?

Holy hell… you’re worse off than I thought. Lmao…You keep moving those goalposts, son. The Falcons let Smith go because they have a great TE stable. (Who had more than 4 receptions between them… hahaha)

As for their current cap, how many FA’s have they signed and who other than Ramsey have they restructured? They still need to extend/restructure Tua, Chubb, Tyreek… Now try to add up everything. Use a damn calculator. Lmao… Before FA started, and like I wrote, there was a very reasonable way for them to get to around $80m under the cap. I also said I’d expect them to not do everything possible to get to $80m under and they’d end up closer to $60m under rather than $80m under. You cried and said they didn’t have the money to do anything and they’d lose all of their good players. They’ve lost Wilkins (due to an insane offer from another team) Hunt (same reason) and AVG. And no matter it’s not enough to think that his $10m per was due to the cap.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Don’t you mean WE lost…?

No he does not.

"dolphin25 wrote:

I love Sieler, but how will he be without Willkins next to him and he takes on all the double teams?

Sieler won't be taking on double teams, they will be signing a big space eater for that if the Baltimore model is anything to go by. Sieler will be the pass rushing interior lineman.

"StaleTacos wrote:

I'm not sure you can really coach up his size. Can't change physics. He's like the smallest center in the league.

I would have just waited longer, and see if his price dropped. He wasn't a day 1 signing that you lose a pick for. That's just crazy to me.

I'm not sure what his size actually is, I've seen anywhere between 275-295 but he looks on the lighter end for sure. Even then, a 280lb man should be able to block another man for 3 seconds surely. :smile:

Here’s some sound logic. It’s also an easy read., so that’s nice for some.

"Springveldt wrote:

I'm not sure what his size actually is, I've seen anywhere between 275-295 but he looks on the lighter end for sure. Even then, a 280lb man should be able to block another man for 3 seconds surely. :smile:

Well when that 280lb man is trying to block a 350lb man without a running start. That's when it becomes a problem.

At least Tua will be able to see over him. LOL.

There’s more:

"danmarino wrote:

“Offensive line doesn’t matter”

—-Staletacos
circa March 2024

Flip flopping in order to troll some more or have you come to your senses and now believe that oline matters?

I've been pretty consistent. Pass blocking in this scheme doesn't matter much. If it did, McDaniel would have gotten a better pass blocking center. But for the folks that like this signing, I don't want to hear the excuses if Tua craps the bed.

Honestly, with your take on the salary cap and how wrong you were. I'm surprised you are still posting here.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Well when that 280lb man is trying to block a 350lb man without a running start. That's when it becomes a problem.

At least Tua will be able to see over him. LOL.

Why are you crying about something that doesn’t matter to you?

"StaleTacos wrote:

I've been pretty consistent. Pass blocking in this scheme doesn't matter much. If it did, McDaniel would have gotten a better pass blocking center. But for the folks that like this signing, I don't want to hear the excuses if Tua craps the bed.

Honestly, with your take on the salary cap and how wrong you were. I'm surprised you are still posting here.

He’s terrific at run blocking. PFF says his pass blocking isn’t up to par.
So why aren’t you happy? Or do you not know this and decided to just whine anyhow?

Please explain how I was wrong re: the cap.

"danmarino wrote:

Here’s some sound logic. It’s also an easy read., so that’s nice for some.

Miami can secure a 2nd round equivalent (two 3rds) via compensatory system if they play their cards. Does this mean they view the #55 pick as ammo to do something high impact?

They're getting the 2nd round equivalent for being disciplined, not for being completely out of money.…

— Chris Kouffman (@ckparrot) March 12, 2024

That's a good breakdown of what they might do in the draft. Trading the 2nd rounder for either of those guys might improve the team in the short term, but contract and money wise we need more players on rookie contracts.

"danmarino wrote:

He’s terrific at run blocking. PFF says his pass blocking isn’t up to par.
So why aren’t you happy? Or do you not know this and decided to just whine anyhow?

Who said I wasn't happy? I don't think it's a good signing. He's not complete enough of a center to be signed on day 1 on a 3 year deal.

Have you thought about some time off after how wrong you were about the salary cap? All your false confidence and calling people morons for disagreeing that the salary cap would be a factor? You should take some time off and reflect on your actions and words.

For a guy who can’t draft the Dolphins sure lost some guys they drafted who demanded a whole lot of money.

"Finatik wrote:

That's a good breakdown of what they might do in the draft. Trading the 2nd rounder for either of those guys might improve the team in the short term, but contract and money wise we need more players on rookie contracts.

The cap is going to be somewhere around $70m under next year.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Who said I wasn't happy? I don't think it's a good signing. He's not complete enough of a center to be signed on day 1 on a 3 year deal.

Have you thought about some time off after how wrong you were about the salary cap? All your false confidence and calling people morons for disagreeing that the salary cap would be a factor? You should take some time off and reflect on your actions and words.

I don't see the cap as the problem you all made it out to be. We weren't going to pay Wilkins the money he got or Hunt for that matter. We got the same guy for cheaper than AVG although I would have liked him back. Once the new restructures are counted were going to be something like 20Mill under.

"Finatik wrote:

I don't see the cap as the problem you all made it out to be. We weren't going to pay Wilkins the money he got or Hunt for that matter. We got the same guy for cheaper than AVG although I would have liked him back. Once the new restructures are counted were going to be something like 20Mill under.

Even with the new signings, once Chubb and Tyreek are restructured (if that happens) they’ll be around $40m under. If they extend Tua you can add another $15m-$20m to that. Which will put them at what I said they’d be after those extensions/resteuctures.

(That’s including the X money after June 1st)

"Finatik wrote:

I don't see the cap as the problem you all made it out to be. We weren't going to pay Wilkins the money he got or Hunt for that matter. We got the same guy for cheaper than AVG although I would have liked him back. Once the new restructures are counted were going to be something like 20Mill under.

Right, and we weren't going to pay Wilkins or Hunt the money because of the cap, which was the point many of us were making. Passing on AVG at that money was shocking. Also, we still have quite a few holes to fill. Don't see how we field as good of a roster as 2023.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Right, and we weren't going to pay Wilkins or Hunt the money because of the cap, which was the point many of us were making. Passing on AVG at that money was shocking. Also, we still have quite a few holes to fill. Don't see how we field as good of a roster as 2023.

It wasn't because of the CAP. They didn't want to tie up 1/10 of the cap on Wilkins. With Hunts payday it would have been like 18% of the CAP for 2 plays. I mean come one. AVG I though could have been brought back. It was only like a million more then what they signed the new guy to. They locked up Sieler for a 1/2 of what Wilkins got. They just brought in a true Center that has started every game the last 2 years. If they can resign Williams, I think the line is going to be fine. They also signed a pass catching TE that we needed. And it's only the 2nd day.

"Finatik wrote:

It wasn't because of the CAP. They didn't want to tie up 1/10 of the cap on Wilkins. With Hunts payday it would have been like 18% of the CAP for 2 plays. I mean come one. AVG I though could have been brought back. It was only like a million more then what they signed the new guy to. They locked up Sieler for a 1/2 of what Wilkins got. They just brought in a true Center that has started every game the last 2 years. If they can resign Williams, I think the line is going to be fine. They also signed a pass catching TE that we needed. And it's only the 2nd day.

Don't compare the Van Ginkel money to Barrett money. It's not a $1 million difference. Van Ginkel got two years $20 million, $14 million guaranteed. Barrett's contract can be worth up to $9 million with incentives. His contract is probably in the $5-6 million range.