Rumor from PFT: No More Mueller

"cnc66 wrote:

very reliable?? the link is too the "rumour mill".. that means someone made it up

Everything starts out as a rumor in this league.

patrick willis should have been the choice at 9 even if we had zach in the middle BUT we have ginn and i am happy we do. He is exciting and everyone keeps saying that he should have been taken later, well texans were gonna take him at 10 spot anyway. I think some of you people will eat ur words because i think ginn will be a good player in this league. recievers take 2 to 3 years to get adjusted to this league and ginn including this year has only been a receiver for 3 years. He was a top notch cornerback coming out of HS. I for one am very impressed by his route running and his hands. I didnt think he would run his routes good and have good hands due to the lack of experience as a WR. He should have 3 special teams touchdowns but he has one and thats ok too, you can't have everything in your favor as we learned this year. Let him develop and if he is not a good player in two years then you can bash him all you want.

"REV KEV wrote:

No it should have been Okoye DT or Staley OT or Brady Quinn and if Brady Quinn was that in accurate a passer then it definitely should have been DT or OT...

Ginn is blessed and will be good..., but it was a reach..., and it has some bearing on being 1-14

no it doesn't... crimminy.. another one

"Brown42000 wrote:

Everything starts out as a rumor in this league.

maybe in your world, not mine. PFT throws a big pile of crap on the wall and eventually some of it sticks. It is VERY likely mueller will be gone, but until he is, you cannot misrepresent your thread as fact.

Ha ha cnc66 you are a trip. Keep it real, man! Hey, what do you think about the lemmings repeating that all the injuries this year are due to lack of conditioning and Cam’s easy camp?

"cnc66 wrote:

no it doesn't... crimminy.. another one

Games are won on the line of scrimmage..., don't need the tag..., but thanks

"cnc66 wrote:

very reliable?? the link is too the "rumour mill".. that means someone made it up

PTF is a "rumor mill" and some of their stuff is just that! However they were all over the Vick stuff way before any "real news" got a hold of it. Read them everyday for two weeks and see how right they are!!!!!!!!

"cnc66 wrote:

maybe in your world, not mine. PFT throws a big pile of crap on the wall and eventually some of it sticks. It is VERY likely mueller will be gone, but until he is, you cannot misrepresent your thread as fact.

What coaching, front office,player move or coaching move happens before it is reported? Not many because it is reported before hand and that is a rumor.

Funny how this PFT story says Mueller will be fired not when he will be fired because they have no idea when.

I think he will get fired but it will be after the draft.

Kind of a no brainer to throw out a story like this. It really means nothing!

"Brown42000 wrote:

Everything starts out as a rumor in this league.

Do not circumvent the profanity filter

"Brown42000 wrote:

Everything starts out as a rumor in this league.

Marty is right, this is a rumor from PFT. While they do get some things right and have scooped the rest of the media at times, far too often there is a bunch of crap mixed in. That's not to say that everything they post is garbage, but a rumor is a rumor until it is confirmed.

Saying Randy will be fired is a pretty safe bet right now, kind of like saying the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

"Finominal wrote:

Ha ha cnc66 you are a trip. Keep it real, man! Hey, what do you think about the lemmings repeating that all the injuries this year are due to lack of conditioning and Cam’s easy camp?

Most football injuries are impact injuries. The difference between NFL conditioning you get from a "soft camp" and a "hard camp" are statistically insignificant. There's been some fairly good research that injury rates are effectively random - no team has a long term injury rate that is significantly better or worse than the rest of the league.

"Paul 13 wrote:

Well, if that turns out to be true, then I think Cam won't be far behind him. They are a combo deal, IMO... one goes, they both go... one stays, they both stay....

Yes, because we bought them together. Tsk tsk.

"Pauly wrote:

Most football injuries are impact injuries. The difference between NFL conditioning you get from a "soft camp" and a "hard camp" are statistically insignificant. There's been some fairly good research that injury rates are effectively random - no team has a long term injury rate that is significantly better or worse than the rest of the league.

that's interesting.. Cam was taking the advice of Bill Arnsbarger I think.. I think that is why he metted out the workload like he did. I would love to read about that if you can recall where you read it.

"azstryker wrote:

What about paper man makes you think he'll be great? He is a mediocre returner who looks hesitant and down right scared most of the time.

You lost me with this nonsense. Ginn has the potential to be in the same class as Hester on ST's, it just so happens that Miami's ST is nowhere near as good as Chicago's. I remember a game midseason where Hester caught the ball at the 9, made 1 juke and then followed his blockers into the endzone. He actually had a 5 man escort! When has Ginn ever had that type of luxury? And yet he has still done a heck of a job.

He can not break tackles, at all. He'll always have trouble with press coverages due to his slight frame and lack of upper and lower body strength. He's Randal Hill one decade later.

However, please enlighten me to what you see. I'm open minded and could be wrong, but I've watched each game 2 or 3 times and this is what I see.

:lol:

First of all, that is total BS. Second, were you one of the people that expected him to come in and catch 100 passes for 1000+ yards or else he was a bust? It takes time for WR's to make a name for themselves in the NFL, especialy when they have 2 quality vets (Chambers and Booker) playing ahead of them and no QB to get the ball into their hands. We haven't even begun to see what Ginn is capable of because of that last bit, he hasn't been utitlzed properly. Once he is, he'll be just fine and worthy of the 9th overall pick.

"Finfang wrote:

Funny how this PFT story says Mueller will be fired not when he will be fired because they have no idea when.

I think he will get fired but it will be after the draft.

Kind of a no brainer to throw out a story like this. It really means nothing!

Yup. Like me stating I think Parcells will make some changes...........

Ginn is a natural returner. He may have had two bad plays all season long. He never looked scared to me, just the opposite he is pretty smooth and has good hands.

Our special teams are HORRIBLE. He showed promise as a WR as well. It's not his fault that he is on a very bad team. He might turn out to be an excellent WR. Have some patience...

"like2god wrote:

Once he is, he'll be just fine and worthy of the 9th overall pick.

I'll take your word for it.

Meanwhile, Patrick Willis and Amobi Okoye are *already* worthy of the 9th overall pick.

Good riddance to Randy Mueller.

"RollieGotFingered wrote:

I'll take your word for it.

Meanwhile, Patrick Willis and Amobi Okoye are *already* worthy of the 9th overall pick.

Both players are doing well, but hindsight is 20/20 and patience is needed with WR's. Lets not forget that going into the draft last year we had the #4 defense and added Joey Porter, so defense wasn't the focus, fixing the offense was.

"RollieGotFingered wrote:

I'll take your word for it.

Meanwhile, Patrick Willis and Amobi Okoye are *already* worthy of the 9th overall pick.

using hindsight doesn't make your point any better. We did not need those positions.

"like2god wrote:

Both players are doing well, but hindsight is 20/20 and patience is needed with WR's. Lets not forget that going into the draft last year we had the #4 defense and added Joey Porter, so defense wasn't the focus, fixing the offense was.

Good points.

Do we still draft Ginn if Welker was re-signed? I've always wondered that.

"RollieGotFingered wrote:

Good points.

Do we still draft Ginn if Welker was re-signed? I've always wondered that.

No way. We would be too stocked at WR and other needs could have been addressed.

"cnc66 wrote:

using hindsight doesn't make your point any better. We did not need those positions.

But we needed a KR and unpolished WR at 9?

And I flatly reject the notion that we didn't *need* LB or DL help.

"cnc66 wrote:

using hindsight doesn't make your point any better. We did not need those positions.

yea, 38 yr old keith traylor was more than adequate at DT

please. lots of people were saying we needed to address our old front 7

but, as usual, mueller reacted instead of being proactive