rumors from the senior bowl...Patrick Willis on the market.?
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djphinfansubscriberOPcourtesy of walter football senior bowl rumors.
A lot of change has already happened in San Francisco and more could be coming. Sources say that star linebacker Patrick Willis could be shopped to other teams in a trade and also could end up being a cap casualty. Willis missed the final 10 games of the 2014 season with a toe injury. The 49ers feel they have a younger and much cheaper replacement ready to take his place with Chris Borland. With NaVorro Bowman coming back, Willis could be deemed too expensive for a team that is tight against the cap.
Pat just turned 29 btw.
Another 49er who is likely to be playing elsewhere next season is guard Mike Iupati. Sources say the future free agent won't be restricted by a tag, plus the tag number is too high to justify it for a guard. Iupati wants a fair-market deal, which would leave the 49ers likely outbid. They have some cheap in-house candidates to replace Iupati, including 2014 draftee Brandon Thomas.
Another tight end who will have a lot of suitors if he hits free agency is the Browns' Jordan Cameron. Cameron, 26, saw his numbers decline in 2014 (48-424-2) from 2013 (80-917-7), but teams feel that was in large part to Cameron missing six games with injuries and the Browns issues' at quarterback late in the season. Cameron is a true receiving tight end, and he could command a significant pay day, but will probably come cheaper than Thomas. Cleveland may decide to tag Cameron, but if he hits the open market, plenty of teams will be interested.
One player who has had a mixed Senior Bowl is Iowa defensive tackle Carl Davis. He has displayed a nice skill set with strength, size, and a burst. However, Davis has flunked the team interviews. He has said he didn't work hard in practice at Iowa because he was going against young scout team linemen and he didn't want to risk injury against some overzealous underclassmen. He told teams that he should only play about half the snaps in a game in order to be effective. Teams felt he came across as very arrogant and lazy. Davis is going to need to turn that around before his Combine and pre-draft visit interviews.
Staff with multiple teams and agents agree that if Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh hits free agency, he is going to land a massive contract that will go down in NFL history. Sources say that even though Suh doesn't deserve it, he will probably get a contract bigger than the Texans' J.J. Watt. Suh will have a number of teams with a huge amount of cap space targeting him, including the Raiders.
The Dolphins are targeting a speed receiver, which makes Mike Wallace's future in Miami perfectly clear. Dolphins general manager Dennis Hickey didn't like Wallace coming out of Ole Miss, and sources say it would be surprising if Wallace came back to Miami next season. The organization's actions are speaking volumes. The Dolphins have shown a ton of interest in speedster receivers Devin Smith (Ohio State) and Philip Dorsett (Miami). It looks as though the Dolphins are getting ready to dump Wallace and draft a cheaper replacement. While running Tampa Bay's drafts as the college director, Hickey didn't draft a wide receiver in the first round, so it seems more likely that Miami would take a wideout on the second day of the 2015 NFL Draft. Thus, Dorsett and Smith make sense.
well all these rumors could be in our interest..
would you pay that contract to Suh?
would you trade for Willis considering they have the young Borland at middle linebacker? {who we should of drafted btw}
Jordan cameron has some concussions issues, but if he checks out would you make a run at that or keep Charlie Clay?
Theres been some talk about d tackles around here, discouraging news if true about Davis...Well if we go after Suh {which some think is on our radar} we won't have to worry about his lazy ass.
Theres your free agent guard in Mike Iupati, is he a fit? some want the hometown big O franklin?...I always look at the home grown boys first.
shamegame13forum_veteranO Franklin would be cool because he can play OT and OG. In a jam, we could slide him around. I would love to get P Willis too. Clay>Cameron, I don't trust Cameron, maybe its just me.
djphinfansubscriber"shamegame13 wrote:
O Franklin would be cool because he can play OT and OG. In a jam, we could slide him around. I would love to get P Willis too. Clay>Cameron, I don't trust Cameron, maybe its just me.
D-pate basically said he's a walking vegetable, cameron that is.
gotta shore up that line with one guard...once we get rid of a lot of baggage we should allocate resources for one good guard..cant have it any other way going into this year..
Vertical Limitforum_veteranI'd love to have Willis.. but the last three seasons he's been missing games.... Man the 49ers sure have a lot of linebacker talent..
Vertical Limitforum_veteranWe would be correcting a 2007 mistake that's for sure. lol
Silverphinforum_veteran"Vertical Limit wrote:
We would be correcting a 2007 mistake that's for sure. lol
At least we didn't draft Brady Quinn.
How about this- sign Willis and Iupati in FA along with Orlando Franklin, ILB and OG solved. Draft Carl Davis in the 2nd rd- he's a stud and iirc was voted the top defensive player at the Senior Bowl. I don't really have a problem with the comments he made, and he's a great player at a need position. They can say that he's lazy, but he impressed and played very well both at Iowa and the Senior Bowl, go figure.
Phoenician Fanforum_veteranI would rather sign Michael Roos to play LT and move Albert inside to LG for the remainder of his contract. Maybe he can stay healthy playing OG. A two year contract for Roos or even a three year we can get out of easily would give us plenty of time to draft a developmental OT to replace Roos later on. I like Eric Lefeld.
Prior to the knee, Roos had only missed 1 game in ten years. I predict he will come back strong and play at a high level for another 2-3 years.
If Billy Turner is really ready OK, but I would rather sign Clint Boling and have a good shot at an elite OL.
I don't want Willis. He would constantly remind me of one of the worst moves the Dolphins ever made when Muehler draft Ginn instead of Willis.
Fin-OmenalNew MemberMore likely IMO they are looking to draft a WR to replace Wallace in 2016, i doubt the plan is to draft a guy in Rd 2 and say...hey go be Mike Wallace real fast.
djphinfansubscriber"jim1 wrote:
How about this- sign Willis and Iupati in FA along with Orlando Franklin, ILB and OG solved. Draft Carl Davis in the 2nd rd- he's a stud and iirc was voted the top defensive player at the Senior Bowl. I don't really have a problem with the comments he made, and he's a great player at a need position. They can say that he's lazy, but he impressed and played very well both at Iowa and the Senior Bowl, go figure.
Iupati and Franklin? come on Jim, lets be realistic here, we still have to sign pounce..
I believe you were a turner fan as well coming out yes?
I'd take Franklin over Iupati, just because he's proven to be more versatile but also fit our scheme. Iupati is more of a power guard. I wouldn't trada for Willis but wouldn't mind picking him up as a FA. unless we could give him a 7th rounder but he has a pretty big contract which is why Id rather sign him once he's cut and he will be cut. For a MLB if we actually do what's smart and move Jordan to SLB and Jenkins is at WLB, MIsi may be fine or go get someone like Perrymen who is going to drop in the draft to 3rd-4th round area like Borland. I really hope we don't dump Wallace, this is a football team, real coaches and managers know how to motivate even egocentric people if they posses talent, which Wallace does. The guy had 10 tds for us. Just the 2nd half of the Jets game showed how much it changed our offense with him on the sideline. We have nothing to scare a defense at this time other than Wallace and I don't want to trust some young burner to come in and actually have the same effect. I want a receiver high in the draft but I want it to be someone who compliments Wallace not does the same thing.
djphinfansubscriber"Canad-phin wrote:
I'd take Franklin over Iupati, just because he's proven to be more versatile but also fit our scheme. Iupati is more of a power guard. I wouldn't trada for Willis but wouldn't mind picking him up as a FA. unless we could give him a 7th rounder but he has a pretty big contract which is why Id rather sign him once he's cut and he will be cut. For a MLB if we actually do what's smart and move Jordan to SLB and Jenkins is at WLB, MIsi may be fine or go get someone like Perrymen who is going to drop in the draft to 3rd-4th round area like Borland. I really hope we don't dump Wallace, this is a football team, real coaches and managers know how to motivate even egocentric people if they posses talent, which Wallace does. The guy had 10 tds for us. Just the 2nd half of the Jets game showed how much it changed our offense with him on the sideline. We have nothing to scare a defense at this time other than Wallace and I don't want to trust some young burner to come in and actually have the same effect. I want a receiver high in the draft but I want it to be someone who compliments Wallace not does the same thing.
Hickey went hard after D'qwell Jackson last year and was offering him a free agent contract, he wound up getting a nod in the probowl..and he was 30 years old at the time..
willis just turned 29...I see a trade as a viable option for this player if he checks out 100 percent healthy.
"djphinfan wrote:
Hickey went hard after D'qwell Jackson last year and was offering him a free agent contract, he wound up getting a nod in the probowl..and he was 30 years old at the time..
willis just turned 29...I see a trade as a viable option for this player if he checks out 100 percent healthy.
The trade though means we pick up his contract. I don't mind 2015 contract but then they start venturing in the 8-10 mil/yr range. I'd need a clean injury report, well as clean as it can be. He would add a element to our defense and a new attitude. Maybe he would be worth it. Need to think about it more.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/patrick-willis/
djphinfansubscriber"Canad-phin wrote:
The trade though means we pick up his contract. I don't mind 2015 contract but then they start venturing in the 8-10 mil/yr range. I'd need a clean injury report, well as clean as it can be. He would add a element to our defense and a new attitude. Maybe he would be worth it. Need to think about it more.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/patrick-willis/
his current contract is at 7 mill..I believe if we trade we can redo that contract to be more friendly.
"djphinfan wrote:
Hickey went hard after D'qwell Jackson last year and was offering him a free agent contract, he wound up getting a nod in the probowl..and he was 30 years old at the time..
willis just turned 29...I see a trade as a viable option for this player if he checks out 100 percent healthy.
You mean when he was still w/ Tampa? I don't remember hearing about us going after him, but I sure would have been happy w/ it.
djphinfansubscriber"77FinFan wrote:
You mean when he was still w/ Tampa? I don't remember hearing about us going after him, but I sure would have been happy w/ it.
no it was last year when he was with cleveland browns, was always a brown, we offered him a contract colts got him for 4/22 mill, and me too on wanting him, I thought it was a good sign that hickey went after him..
MrCleansubscriber"Philbinfan wrote:
I would rather sign Michael Roos to play LT and move Albert inside to LG for the remainder of his contract. Maybe he can stay healthy playing OG. A two year contract for Roos or even a three year we can get out of easily would give us plenty of time to draft a developmental OT to replace Roos later on. I like Eric Lefeld.
Prior to the knee, Roos had only missed 1 game in ten years. I predict he will come back strong and play at a high level for another 2-3 years.
If Billy Turner is really ready OK, but I would rather sign Clint Boling and have a good shot at an elite OL.
I don't want Willis. He would constantly remind me of one of the worst moves the Dolphins ever made when Muehler draft Ginn instead of Willis.
Among the top guards, Boling would be my choice too. Iupati is a dominant run blocker but a well below average pass blocker as guards go. I am of the belief that considering the beating RT17 has taken the past two years that we need to make good pass blocking OL a priority over good run blocking, if need be.
I think that is a pretty poor reason to not want Patrick Willis.
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"djphinfan wrote:
Iupati and Franklin? come on Jim, lets be realistic here, we still have to sign pounce..
I believe you were a turner fan as well coming out yes?
Billy Turner? He looked like an interesting prospect with size and great feet/athleticism, but I see him as a training LT not a Guard. My choice for Guard was Trai Turner, I would have chosen him over Billy Turner.
ckparrotheadmoderatorWow...Patrick Willis.
That would be fantastic. And I think the Dolphins would be interested.
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branNew Memberpatrick willis would help this defense out immensely.
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Tannehill could have had more time had Clabo just fell down and forced Mario to step over him.
Colmaxforum_veteranWhen I was at Ole Miss, I'd see Patrick on occasion on my stroll to the Biology building and he would give me a head nod like he knew me. I always thought it was funny, because he obviously had me mistaken for someone else. I knew who the hell he was, though!
I really thought that he would have been a great fit in that draft. Learn under Zach in his waning years. Take the reigns. Willis has had some nagging wrist/hand injuries since college.
I brought up this possibility of Willis becoming a FA/trade option a few months ago. I truly do not think it happens, but with everything that is going on with that organization, I thought there could be a small chance they moved in another direction.
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ToddPhinluxury_boxWillis, Suh, Byron Maxwell, Rahim Moore. Get it done Hickey.
shamegame13forum_veteran"ToddPhin wrote:
Willis, Suh, Byron Maxwell, Rahim Moore. Get it done Hickey.
Talk about a Christmas in March lol I would literally cry if we got these players.. Tears of joy!
ToddPhinluxury_box"shamegame13 wrote:
Talk about a Christmas in March lol I would literally cry if we got these players.. Tears of joy!
we could easily have the finances to do that if we desired to fix the defense overnight, which I would place I giant priority on if it were me. I'd even trade/cut Grimes to redistribute his money between Maxwell & Moore . Wallace's contract pays for Willis. Plenty of available contracts to pay for Suh and then some. Replace Wallace in the draft with Kevin White's inexpensive $10.0M total contract. We'd still have money left over to address guard.
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