Russ Lande Mock 8.0

If the draft truly fell like that, id love Miami to trade down to 23/25, let's the vikings take Patterson. Do not want another LT or lineman in round 1.

I like that pick, and it would make the most sense.

Not with the FA market as it is. WR/DE/CB more sense as we drafted a LT last year.

"Clark Kent wrote:

Not with the FA market as it is. WR/DE/CB more sense as we drafted a LT last year.

We drafted a tackle who is not as athletic as Johnson is. Thinking because you spent x last year means you can't reinvest in x again this year is a fallacy. A serious one.

Those assets are already accounted for, trying to make future decisions based off of that is not the correct thing to do.

Reaching for a WR, DE or CB considering we're playing more zone, and that the DE's early don't really fir what we want to do (see Cincy defense and how many times they asked their DE to play in a two point stance and stunt etc.) or a WR since we look to be filling that via free agency and what we did last year - Rishard Matthews is no the best thing to do.

Johnson is the better pick, unless you go Tavon Austin and then grab the OT can't remember his name from the small school, who coincidentally we've been all over. Otherwise, seriously consider this.

My conviction is based on my gut.

"Clark Kent wrote:

Not with the FA market as it is. WR/DE/CB more sense as we drafted a LT last year.

It's questionable whether or not Martin can play LT in the long term. And either way, we still have a hole at the tackle position if Long does not come back.

Like many have said its doubtful he or any of the top 3 tackles make it to 12. But if one of them did, Johnson would be my choice. He has flat out rocked in all these pre draft showcases

If you're drafting Tavon Austin at #12, with no other F/A acquisitions made, and passing on Lane Johnson + Xavier Rhodes, I really have to wonder what the **** we are doing.

Building up this super talented/fast WR Corps while ignoring quality players in the 1st round.

I'd love Lane Johnson, but I don't think there's much chance he gets to 12. And I'd say there's almost zero chance Sharrif Floyd does.

"Conuficus wrote:

We drafted a tackle who is not as athletic as Johnson is. Thinking because you spent x last year means you can't reinvest in x again this year is a fallacy. A serious one.

Those assets are already accounted for, trying to make future decisions based off of that is not the correct thing to do.

Reaching for a WR, DE or CB considering we're playing more zone, and that the DE's early don't really fir what we want to do (see Cincy defense and how many times they asked their DE to play in a two point stance and stunt etc.) or a WR since we look to be filling that via free agency and what we did last year - Rishard Matthews is no the best thing to do.

Johnson is the better pick, unless you go Tavon Austin and then grab the OT can't remember his name from the small school, who coincidentally we've been all over. Otherwise, seriously consider this.

My conviction is based on my gut.

Teron Armstead of Arkansas Pines-Bluff?

"RoninFin4 wrote:

Teron Armstead of Arkansas Pines-Bluff?

I can never remember this kid's name.

"Crazy685 wrote:

If you're drafting Tavon Austin at #12, with no other F/A acquisitions made, and passing on Lane Johnson + Xavier Rhodes, I really have to wonder what the **** we are doing.

Building up this super talented/fast WR Corps while ignoring quality players in the 1st round.

Are either Johnson or Rhodes the only players at their position? Are we finished with FA?

If not then I have no idea what you're talking about.

"Conuficus wrote:

I can never remember this kid's name.

What do you think of him Richard? I've never seen him in anything other than the Combine. I did see a mock draft that had Miami taking him with their 2a pick the other day.

"RoninFin4 wrote:

What do you think of him Richard? I've never seen him in anything other than the Combine. I did see a mock draft that had Miami taking him with their 2a pick the other day.

Honestly, he's an interesting prospect. He is athletic as hell. He can/will mirror pretty much anyone and he has the feet to stay with you. He isn't very strong, but that's to be expected given where he went to school. Don't get me wrong, he isn't a pushover but he will be more of a positional blocker than he will ever drive someone off the line of scrimmage.

The best way I can say it is to think of Mike Pouncey at tackle without the sheer aggression. He will need a year or two to get his base strength up to snuff, as I expect he will end up on his behind a bit, but then again he has good flexibility and he does not stop his feet. He will be able to adjust to a redirect better than Jake ever was and that's the truth.

Maybe the best comparison is Duane Brown albeit a bit undersized in terms of girth. Very agile player, but he needs to become stronger.

I'll try and get a video together of him over the weekend.

"Conuficus wrote:

Honestly, he's an interesting prospect. He is athletic as hell. He can/will mirror pretty much anyone and he has the feet to stay with you. He isn't very strong, but that's to be expected given where he went to school. Don't get me wrong, he isn't a pushover but he will be more of a positional blocker than he will ever drive someone off the line of scrimmage.

The best way I can say it is to think of Mike Pouncey at tackle without the sheer aggression. He will need a year or two to get his base strength up to snuff, as I expect he will end up on his behind a bit, but then again he has good flexibility and he does not stop his feet. He will be able to adjust to a redirect better than Jake ever was and that's the truth.

Maybe the best comparison is Duane Brown albeit a bit undersized in terms of girth. Very agile player, but he needs to become stronger.

I'll try and get a video together of him over the weekend.

Duane Brown checked in undersized at the combine too (6'5 300)

"Clark Kent wrote:

If the draft truly fell like that, id love Miami to trade down to 23/25, let's the vikings take Patterson. Do not want another LT or lineman in round 1.

Indeed, the chain of mistakes would continue unbroken.

PLAYMAKERS

Not blue collar types at what point does this become apparent to Davie?

6'5'' isn't exactly undersized. I mean what maybe 1 inch away from being ideal if at all? Its not like the guy measured in at 6' or something. 6'5'' with 34'' arms is pretty damn good to be honest.

Armstead is 6'5'' and 306. Jake Long was 6'7'' and 307 lbs IIRC. 2 inches and 1 lb. Jake is tall for a tackle.

"Crazy685 wrote:

If you're drafting Tavon Austin at #12, with no other F/A acquisitions made, and passing on Lane Johnson + Xavier Rhodes, I really have to wonder what the **** we are doing.

Building up this super talented/fast WR Corps while ignoring quality players in the 1st round.

I am not for drafting a LP in the first round BUT are you saying Austin is not a quality player?

"Conuficus wrote:

6'5'' isn't exactly undersized. I mean what maybe 1 inch away from being ideal if at all? Its not like the guy measured in at 6' or something. 6'5'' with 34'' arms is pretty damn good to be honest.

Armstead is 6'5'' and 306. Jake Long was 6'7'' and 307 lbs IIRC. 2 inches and 1 lb. Jake is tall for a tackle.

sorry. just meant that he was still growing into his football body at the time and needed to get a little bigger & stronger.

"PerfectTeam wrote:

Interesting picks and players in Lande's new mock. Johnson would be a great pickup if Long doesn't come back. Definitely some questionable picks towards the top but food for thought none the less.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Mock-Draft-Version-80.html

12. Miami Dolphins: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma, Senior: With the Dolphins expected to lose left tackle Jake Long in free agency; many expect them to move Jon martin over to the left side. We think they would prefer to keep Martin on the right side as he did not have a great rookie season and can plug Lane Johnson in at left tackle.

2. Jacksonville Jaguars: Barkevious Mingo, DE,

I would say Lande is on crack... but the Jags are just bad enough to make this big a mistake.

10. Tennessee Titans: Cornell “Tank” Carradine, DE, Florida State, Senior: While Carradine is still recovering from surgery to repair an ACL injury to his right knee; the Titans are willing to gamble on him because of his potential. If he had not been injured, I believe he would have received serious consideration by the Jaguars with the second overall pick.

Love this. First official sighting of a Top Ten Tank Carradine mock pick. And you know what? If Tank's knee is healthy, he is worth the pick.

Best DE in the draft, imo.

No way ALL the DTs stay untouched til 13th pick. No way. Too talented a bunch.

Dang, Cyprien in the 1st? And Lemonier? Word is getting out on the 'value' picks. Oh well. I see Eifert sank.

"Conuficus wrote:

We drafted a tackle who is not as athletic as Johnson is. Thinking because you spent x last year means you can't reinvest in x again this year is a fallacy. A serious one.

Those assets are already accounted for, trying to make future decisions based off of that is not the correct thing to do.

Reaching for a WR, DE or CB considering we're playing more zone, and that the DE's early don't really fir what we want to do (see Cincy defense and how many times they asked their DE to play in a two point stance and stunt etc.) or a WR since we look to be filling that via free agency and what we did last year - Rishard Matthews is no the best thing to do.

Johnson is the better pick, unless you go Tavon Austin and then grab the OT can't remember his name from the small school, who coincidentally we've been all over. Otherwise, seriously consider this.

My conviction is based on my gut.

CK has liked Xavier Nixon, but he's not from a small school. Is it someone else?

"Conuficus wrote:

Are either Johnson or Rhodes the only players at their position? Are we finished with FA?

If not then I have no idea what you're talking about.

Your first question - Are Rhodes and Johnson the only players at their position?

If you're drafting Tavon Austin at #12, with no other F/A acquisitions made, and passing on Lane Johnson + Xavier Rhodes, I really have to wonder what the **** we are doing.

Building up this super talented/fast WR Corps while ignoring quality players in the 1st round.

Now, it's pretty obvious here I said quality players in the 1st round. Not ignoring the positions as a whole. Not "not drafting anyone to play those positions" but quality. I mean quality top tier 1st round prospects. So the answer to your question is no, they are not, and your off base even pretending that's what I was saying.

Your second question - "Are we finished with F/A?"

If you're drafting Tavon Austin at #12, with no other F/A acquisitions made, and passing on Lane Johnson + Xavier Rhodes, I really have to wonder what the **** we are doing.

Building up this super talented/fast WR Corps while ignoring quality players in the 1st round.

In this hypothetical I think it's pretty damn clear that yes, in the context of my statement, we are done with F/A.

Now you have an idea of what I'm talking about. I hope this was helpful.

Edit: You can make amends for being snarky for no reason by telling me about this f/a acquisition you were alluding to with regards to a RFA, in non riddle form plz ;-).