I agree with you 100%. Drafting Tannehill would be just like drafting Henne all over again. If Tannehill is the best the Dolphins can do when they select in the first round. I would rather see the Dolphins draft another position and select Kellen Moore in the second round. I think Moore has a far greater upside going forward than Tannehill. .

 

Tannehill was a WR at A&M a few years ago. He's extremely athletic, and very raw still. To say Kellen Moore has more upside is widely false.

 

I have my opinion and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I just happen to think Moore will be a far better QB in the NFL. I have seen nothing from Tannehill which shows me he has the ability to be a good starting QB in the NFL. I would rather see Moore in Miami than Tannehill. You view it differently and I can live with that.

 

I don't think Tannehill can come and start and play well right away. He's far to raw still. However a 5'10 1/2 no arm QB has more petential then a 6'4 220 lb strong arm QB that is new to the QB position? You can believe it all you want, doesn't make it any less false.

 

Hence why its called....potential?

 

Well Henne was a four year starter at QB in college. He is 6'3 230 lb, with a strong arm. How did that work out for the Dolphins? So as you stated, "you can believe what you want, but it doesn't make it any less false."

 

Why are you bringing Henne up? I thought Henne was a 4th rounder at best, you don't have to convince me on how bad that pick was

 

Tannehill is not as good of a qb as Weeden in fact the kid from Kansas State who's name escapes now is a better qb for what Miami does.

 

I did not say I that want Moore in the draft. I merely stated that I would prefer Moore over Tannehill, since I think Moore has a better chance of making it in the NFL as a QB. I would much rather see the Dolphins draft one of the top four QB's, if any of them are available when they draft in the first round. I believe Luck, Griffin, Barkley, and Jones, in that order, all are going to end up being much better QB's in the NFL than Tannehill.

Of course my opinion of Tannehill is merely from my observations of him in the few games I have seen him play. He may turn out to be a productive player in the NFL or he may not. I just don't feel that the Dolphins are in a situation where they can risk drafting a QB who they will have to try and develop over a number of years. He certainly would not be ready to take over the offense immediately. He would be better suited for a team who has an established QB and where he could sit and learn the position in the NFL for two or three seasons. If he has this opportunity, he just might develop into a solid starter down the road. The Dolphins just don't have the right situation to draft a Tannehill right now because they can not afford to draft a QB who will not be ready to play for several more years.

I believe Luck will be ready to play immediately. Griffin and Barkley should be starters sometime in the 2012 NFL season and Jones may have sit and observe for a year before he is ready to be the starter for an NFL team. All the other QB's in the NFL draft will need a few years to become starters, if they ever do actually become starters.

I am not a big fan of the Dolphins trading for Flynn. While he looked okay last year when he stepped in as a replacement for Rogers with the Packers. I just don't see him as a solid starter in the NFL.
In fact I think he would not be an upgrade over Matt Moore. If the Dolphins can get Flynn for a 7th round draft pick, it would be worth the risk. I just wouldn't want them to give up a lower draft pick for what I consider a very mediocre QB in the NFL.

 

That would be Colin Klein.

He's got 1000 yards rushing and 1500 yards passing ... and a ridiculous 25 TDs rushing. There's no way he is going to declare for the draft as a Junior, which is a good thing because he's still very much a work in progress as a passer.

 

So you're basing all this off one game?

Tannehill is an outstanding prospect who possesses all the tools and abilities (including mental) to become a franchise QB.

Respectfully, anyone judging him on one game is acting silly :tongue2:, and it's equally as silly to judge him as if he's supposed to be a finished product. If Ryan were currently as polished as Barkley or Luck, we'd be talking about him as the potential #2 pick in the draft, and dare I say #1.

 

FWIW, NFLdraftScout (CBS) now has Tannehill rated ahead of Landry Jones, so the posters who have been "clamoring for him" aren't completely off their rocker.

 

Both are not all that impressive.

 

Kellen Moore in the 2nd round?????

That would be bad.

 

I'd rather sign Matt Flynn than draft Jones or Tannehill in that range. For that matter Griffin isn't even all that great of a prospect. Barkley-Luck sure. The rest of these guys just don't impress me.

 

I don't see us taking Tannehill in the first round, I think he's more of a target if we are picking in a bad position to get a 1st round Qb and don't have enough to trade up. I would think he's a guy we might target in the 2-4th rounds if we miss out on the 1st round talent. He is extremely raw and I think would be a pretty good Qb to be grooming behind Moore for a year or so. He's not a bad fall back option IMO.

 

You're not convinced that a super accurate QB who barely throws INT's game will translate well? The guy has 3500 yards, 33 TD's, 5 INT's, and 10.6 YPA. What about his game gives you that idea...?

 

Other than playing the same position, there is very little similarity between Tannehill and Henne.

 

Took the words right out of my head. Tannehill will have been a 1 and a half year starter at QB after this season. Luck and Barkley each 3 full seasons. Heck, you maybe could get Tannehill at the top of the 2nd and still come back and draft Kellen Moore in the 6th, because he is likely to still be on the board at that point.

 

...because he's... black?

 

He'd be my 6th choice as it stands today: Luck, Barkley, Weeden, Griffin, Jones, Tannehill. Lindley, Foles, Cousins...

 

Not even close. Simply pointing out the natural knee-jerk reaction to any black QB coming out of college (where his athleticism is perceived —accurately or inaccurately— before any other trait). You have got to see film on this kid. He's a passer.

 

Come draft day Tannehill likely won't make it to the 2nd-4th round, and he is 1st round talent.
Heck, if we're going by "talent" & brains alone, he's a top 5 pick IMO. He just needs some quality nurturing.
I'll take him 100 out of 100 times over Jake Locker whom we all know was drafted in the top 10.

 

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IMO there will knowingly be enough teams smitten with Tannehill's upside that it will force one of their hands to grab him early out of fear of losing him, so I'd be shocked if he makes it to 20, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went top 10. He's a natural passer with a live arm, good balance & coordination, athleticism, quick feet, and great intelligence, so I don't foresee any reason why he won't be able to sure up his mechanics & footwork to give his game that needed consistency.

IMO he's some experience & good coaching away from being a game-changing QB in the right offense surrounded by the right personnel.


I'd take a flier on Moore in the 6th. Why not?

 

He's my 2nd or 3rd. Luck, Griffin or Tannehill, Barkley, Weeden, Jones.

If we're going to have a lights-out defense, would you prefer an athletic, playmaking QB like Griffin or Tannehill to keep the pressure on defenses?.... or would you prefer an outstanding game-manager like Barkley?

 

It's understandable that you'd be concerned about a QB with Griffin's degree speed and athleticism being inclined to use his feet too often. However, in his case, he first uses his feet to create opportunities with his arm, and he can be quite deadly at it.

 

My biggest gripe with Tannehill is that he makes a point to play his best in the games I don't schedule myself to watch. It's like he knows I'm trying to see him in action that week, and has an average day. Like the TAMU Arkansas game for example. If we draft him, I might just not watch a single Dolphin game.