Ryan Tannehill

"Cashvillesent wrote:

The movement outside of the pocket is due to the fact that the Titans pass-pro has been cheeks all year

Previous coaching staffs in Miami failed to do the obvious

"resnor wrote:

There's literally no way of knowing that. If Brady had communication in his headset after the 15 second cutoff, as Flutie alleged, that would be a MASSIVE advantage. The fact is, everyone knows they cheated. Some people want to stick their heads in the sand and act like it didn't help. They use all their wins to justify that position...but that assumed that the cheating didn't help them win

Ya the whole, "they cheated and didn't even need to" argument is completely farcical...it defeats itself on face value. How can you even try to prove that? In the absence of any possible evaluation of how much cheating helped them, you basically have to defer to it actually helping, since they're so dead-set on doing it.

"resnor wrote:

There's literally no way of knowing that. If Brady had communication in his headset after the 15 second cutoff, as Flutie alleged, that would be a MASSIVE advantage. The fact is, everyone knows they cheated. Some people want to stick their heads in the sand and act like it didn't help. They use all their wins to justify that position...but that assumed that the cheating didn't help them win

Good God...

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Ya the whole, "they cheated and didn't even need to" argument is completely farcical...it defeats itself on face value. How can you even try to prove that? In the absence of any possible evaluation of how much cheating helped them, you basically have to defer to it actually helping, since they're so dead-set on doing it.

Yup I’m sure they cheated in every single meaningful playoff game and superbowl with the entire NFL world being paranoid about them even farting in a suspicious way. Why wouldn’t they if it was so important? Belichick obviously used his cloaking device on the advance scout so he could film Pete Carroll’s gum chewing tendencies. And must have drugged up the entire Falcons lockerroom

during halftime after getting smoked in the first half.

You literally have zero argument, man.

If you play poker with a few buddies every Friday night, and one buddy wins every night that the game is at his place, and 6 months in, you find out he's cheating...would you keep playing poker with him? Would you assume he's not cheating every time he wins after that?

We know the Patriots have cheated. It's incredibly naive and unreasonable to assume that the ONLY times they cheated was the times they got caught. That's not how it works. It's like cockroaches...for every one you see, there's a bunch you haven't seen.

"Cashvillesent wrote:

Guarantee if other teams "cheated" they STILL would not have been a Dynasty for 20 fricken years. Lets all just agree that the Pats didnt really need to "cheat" to still own the league for 20 years.

I thought everyone did cheat....

This is the problem with the Patriots/Belichick/Brady defenders......your arguments consistently trip over themselves. At some point, there needs to be a logical and cogent explanation for:

A formerly failed HC picks a 6th round nobody QB, and they put together a heretofore unheard of dynasty no matter the assistant coaches, or offensive or defensive talent, all while cheating numerous times in numerous ways, but that somehow everyone does, but never get caught, while the "genius" has gotten caught multiple times, risking so much for cheating that supposedly gives them no benefit.

i mean, there is no way to make that not sound as insane and absurd as it it. it is literally an unsquarable circle.

"Pauly wrote:

Previous coaching staffs in Miami failed to do the obvious

I think the jury is still out whether what the Titans' staff is doing is sustainable. The Dolphins were taking their top-10 overall pick quarterback and encouraging him to play in the way that's most effective in the NFL (pocket passing), whereas the Titans are taking a castoff who's making peanuts against their cap and trying to salvage a season that was headed for disaster (the Titans were 2-4 when Tannehill became the starter).

That's a "nothing to lose" scenario that allows the Titans to try just about anything, even what may not be effective in the league (i.e., frequent quarterback rollouts) over the long term.

Just because Tannehill needs a particular type of offense implemented to suit his strengths and weaknesses doesn't mean that type of offense is most effective in the league. Tannehill's needs could create a team weakness if the team has to function in a way to suit him that isn't as competitive in the league.

Again, all things to look at over a more long-term basis.

"The Guy wrote:

I think the jury is still out whether what the Titans' staff is doing is sustainable. The Dolphins were taking their top-10 overall pick quarterback and encouraging him to play in the way that's most effective in the NFL (pocket passing), whereas the Titans are taking a castoff who's making peanuts against their cap and trying to salvage a season that was headed for disaster (the Titans were 2-4 when Tannehill became the starter).

That's a "nothing to lose" scenario that allows the Titans to try just about anything, even what may not be effective in the league (i.e., frequent quarterback rollouts) over the long term.

Just because Tannehill needs a particular type of offense implemented to suit his strengths and weaknesses doesn't mean that type of offense is most effective in the league. Tannehill's needs could create a team weakness if the team has to function in a way to suit him but that isn't as competitive in the league.

Again, all things to look at over a more long-term basis.

I disagree, this offense with a better TE and an OL is pretty damn good. I'll be watching closely what they do in the offseason as they (to me) are a team on the rise.

"Fin-O wrote:

I disagree, this offense with a better TE and an OL is pretty damn good. I'll be watching closely what they do in the offseason as they (to me) are a team on the rise.

If you're going to run frequent QB rollouts i.e. Mike Shanahan's offense, you definitely need a stud one-cut runner who gets lots of the defense's attention on play-action, and a stud tight end. Lots of those rollout passes are going to the tight end.

Again, however, now the issue hinges more on whether those surroundings can be assembled and sustained. As the QB becomes more dependent on his surroundings, then whether the surroundings he needs can be assembled and sustained becomes more of the issue in the quarterback and the team's success. As you pay the quarterback more, that becomes an issue as well, because obviously you have to pay the other players, too.

"The Guy wrote:

If you're going to run frequent QB rollouts i.e. Mike Shanahan's offense, you definitely need a stud one-cut runner who gets lots of the defense's attention on play-action, and a stud tight end. Lots of those rollout passes are going to the tight end.

Again, however, now the issue hinges more on whether those surroundings can be assembled and sustained. As the QB becomes more dependent on his surroundings, then whether the surroundings he needs can be assembled and sustained becomes more of the issue in the quarterback and the team's success. As you pay the quarterback more, that becomes an issue as well, because obviously you have to pay the other players, too.

I think teams have had enough tape on the offense to counter it if they truly would've already. What you are suggesting may very well be a better fit, but they are scoring about 30PPG for half the season as constructed. I like the position the Titans are currently in.

But sure Watson deserved the pro bowl over Tannehill....

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Come on Tannehill get that W

If Tannehill and the titans make the playoffs and beat New England I'm going to be convinced someone made a wish with a genie.

They wished Tannehill would out duel Brady in the playoffs, but since genies always mess with the wish, the genie made Tannehill a Titan to do it.

Now that the season is over in Miami...

GO TANNY & THE TITANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say it with me now....

SCREW THE PATRIOTS!!!

Let's Go Tanny!

"Silverphin wrote:

Say it with me now....

SCREW THE PATRIOTS!!!

Damb Belichek couldnt cheat this Miami game.

"Cashvillesent wrote:

Damb Belichek couldnt cheat this Miami game.

Go Titans! Go Tannehill!

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

If Tannehill and the titans make the playoffs and beat New England I'm going to be convinced someone made a wish with a genie.

They wished Tannehill would out duel Brady in the playoffs, but since genies always mess with the wish, the genie made Tannehill a Titan to do it.

They need to beat the Chiefs first. This who their going to face in the first rd if they make it

It will be a glorious moment watching Ryan Tannehill officially stick a fork in this Pat's dynasty next week. The irony is THICK.

"Fin-O wrote:

It will be a glorious moment watching Ryan Tannehill officially stick a fork in this Pat's dynasty next week. The irony is THICK.

Your lips, God's ears.

"Cashvillesent wrote:

They need to beat the Chiefs first. This who their going to face in the first rd if they make it

Patriots are the #3 seed and Titans will be the #6. Next week will be Titans at Patriots.

Derrick Henry is so good... a runningback that massive and that quick.. he may be the best back in the NFL

Ryan Tannehill is not going to lose today. He's playing as loose as his rookie year, moving his feet, moving around in the pocket and looking as confident as ever.

Now go beat the Patsies