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Safe Bet That Beck Never Starts?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by alen1, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

    Jan 14, 2008
    Alexandria, VA
    Of course if I'm calling the shots, my son starts from day 1! :up:
  2. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

    Nov 23, 2007
    I think the same of them as I do every FO and coach - it's a business, and they're not starting the day with guys that they're not sold on. They picked Henne, and Henne will be groomed to start before the decade is out. I'm disappointed to be certain, but it's their decision no? It'll take a couple of years before we're good enough to see the difference (providing we actually are getting better players), and at that time I'll be over it.
  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

    Dec 16, 2007
  4. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

    Dec 4, 2007
    Puerto Rico
    McCown is going to start until Henne is ready. John Beck can take his fumble party to another team.
  5. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Yeah, because we all know rookies don't fumble.
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  6. dolphindebby

    dolphindebby Season Ticket Holder Luxury Box

    Nov 26, 2007
    I hope they do give him a chance. He may turn out not to be the best, but, atleast he should be given a fair shot, no matter whose running the team this year.
  7. phinphever

    phinphever Punk, Make My Day!!

    Dec 20, 2007
    Ocala, FL
    NO offence, how can you possibly know witch qb will start.
    IF it is true i'll give you your props. There will be a competetion at Qb the best one wil start.
  8. late again

    late again Senior Member

    Nov 24, 2007
    Ireland made it clear that the Cowboys liked Beck last year coming out of college. With this year's draft, he also made it pretty clear that he wasn't quite as impressed with our O-line.
    Poor O-line always means poor QB play. It doesn't matter how quick your release is or how fast your feet are; nor does it matter how much experience you have.
    Drafting Long #1 overall, trading up to draft Murphy, and the Smiley signing all point to the FO's dissatisfaction with last year's O-line. To me this was a major overhaul.
    They're going to give Beck a chance to prove himself behind a competent line. If you don't believe that then so be it. No way in Parcells' world of football does Henne start this year. The competition for starter is going to be between Beck and McCown. If Beck can't beat out McCown then I guess he's proven his critics to be correct.
    Now as far as what the Henne pick might say to Beck........if Beck shies away from competition for the starting spot then we're better off without him. I suppose it could compare to drafting Rivers after Brees was less than stellar. All of a sudden Brees picks up his game and raises eyebrows. This is what competition is supposed to do for a competitor.
  9. Superself

    Superself Season Ticket Holder

    Nov 28, 2007
    New Jersey
    At this point I think the safest bet is no bet at all. We don't know what the FO thinks of Beck right now. I would have thought it a big mistake for the FO to put all their eggs in Beck's basket.
    QB being one of the premier positions, you have to maintain a plan B....otherwise you become mudbogged in mediocrity.
  10. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

    Nov 23, 2007
    It's been reported that the Dolphins draft room cheered when Henne fell to us at 57. Out loud. Literally. There's no competition, just the time spent prior to Henne starting.
  11. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Couldn't have said it better myself. In fact my bet is that John Beck is cut or traded before this season starts. Parland brought over the kid from NC (who was in Dallas) so he will be our third QB not John. That way all 3 QBs will have been brought in by the present FO. Thats just the way it works guys.
  12. cnc66

    cnc66 wiley veteran, bad spelur Luxury Box

    Nov 23, 2007
    what would you like to bet
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  13. calphin

    calphin deadly at 250 yards!!

    Becks not going any place anytime soon.you can never have to many capable Qbs.
  14. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

    Nov 23, 2007
    Powell, WY
    I don't think that's likely. I think they keep him around for insurance until next offseason, just in case Henne doesn't pan out.
  15. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

    Apr 2, 2008
    Coral Springs, FL
    Pretty bold prediction there. Tough to envision that happening, although the LoBook trade came as a complete surprise so I guess all bets are off...
  16. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

    Nov 24, 2007
    Thats the key word. Only problem is,"Beck" and "capable" have yet to be determined.
  17. ncdolfan

    ncdolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Dec 20, 2007
    Henne was a value pick. If they had serious reservations about Beck, they would have not waited until 57 to pick a QB.

    I think Beck can be successful, but he's not really had an opportunity to show that yet. Two of the four games he started were in awful conditions (Philly & bad field in Pitt) - he had poor games against the Jets and Bills before he got pulled. However, that team was BAD last year, especially when Beck took over as he had no Ronnie Brown and no Chris Chambers.

    Ireland and Parcells picked Henne as a safety valve if Beck is not as good as they hope. They are working toward this team being playoff ready in 2-3 years and if Beck doesn't work out, they need a QB to step in who they do think can work out. It makes sense to have Option B on your roster now instead of waiting a year to draft him.
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  18. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

    Nov 23, 2007
    Powell, WY
    Sorry, but that makes very little sense. We have so many needs that if they were satisfied with Beck, there is no way they would have drafted a QB in the second round.
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  19. late again

    late again Senior Member

    Nov 24, 2007

    Well sure. But when your QB doesn't know where or when the next hit is coming, only that it is coming, then you can't expect him to play well.
    If your QB is going to have success at any level, he's got to have an OL he can depend on so that he can do his own job. When his primary concern becomes avoiding the pass rush he's losing his ability to be effective at getting the ball out.

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

    Nov 24, 2007
    Northwest New Jersey
    Ron Wolf liked to draft QB's, you could never have to many, Who does Parcells listen to and respect? Ron Wolf.

    I don't think Beck is out of the picture by any means, I just think they are hedging their bets.
  21. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

    Apr 21, 2008
    Aurora, Colorado
    Cheering because a player falls to you is normal. Have you not seen any of these camera war room live feeds on ESPN? I remember when Jimmy Johnson and Co would be high-fiving in the 7th round. I'm exaggerating but still...I believe you are reading too much into a normal reaction.

    The idea of cutting John Beck is simply crazy.
  22. dgb11112

    dgb11112 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 23, 2008
    Ok Guys and Alen..
    I tend to disagree with this post..

    I think that Beck wil be given a chance, and why wouldn't we take Henne or any good QB if they fell to us ( gee who was the dumb*&&T&*%) Coach that passed on one?

    Anyway to continue.

    To be a successful team in this league you MUST have 2 Talented QB on the roster to be successful long-term. I think that this was something you can't pass on. Let''s look at some of the other teams in the past.

    Joe Montana backup Steve Young

    Dan Marino backup Don Strock

    Bob Griese backup Earl Morrall

    John Elway backup Gary Kubiak

    Jim Kelly backup Frank Reich

    Brett Farve backup Aaron Rogers

    Mike Vick backup Matt Schwabb

    Drew Brees backup Phillip Rivers

    Now I know these aren't all household names or QB's that were going to the hall of fame but they could ALL manage a game or bring their teams back when they needed too.

    Now for the most evident Derrick Anderson Backup BRADY QUINN!

    We have all seen the write ups during the offseason about why you need a quality backup i.e the Brady Quinn Saga.

    Again this is IMHO
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  23. calphin

    calphin deadly at 250 yards!!

    Valid point.
  24. MIKE

    MIKE New Member

    Apr 20, 2008
    That kid baker already was cut this week LOL NICE!!!

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