Nothing new, team hasn't proven anything yet.

 

Breaks my heart. I moved from West Palm in 2008 to NC for job/family reasons.....I'd be at every game if I was still down there. Can't wait to be back....one day

 

One thing to keep in mind....it's Mando...nuff said.

 

Its not all doom and gloom:

 

It must be the new logo, swaying the oldies from the tradition :shifty:

 

Ticket renewels being down is a good thing. It sends a clear message that fans are tired of paying to see the garbage that has been getting put out there. Fans make good faith purchases all the time, now its Ross's turn to do it.

 

It shouldn't be surprising. This is a godawful sports town, and the fact that there is a hot bandwagon to jump on is going to make it even more problematic.

Solution isn't hard either. All they've got to do is win, and people will come flocking back. Until the next hot thing, of course.

 

It really is pathetic.

Even the Heat, with 3 superstars and riding one of the greatest streaks in NBA history can't generate enthusiasm at the venue. People showing up late, leaving early and missing the first 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter is more of the norm than the exception.

If we can't properly support a team of historic proportions, how can anyone expect the tri county area to get behind the Dolphins again?

 

Maybe South Florida just doesn't want a football team.

 

Maybe South Florida is complacent with Ross bailing them out and buying unused tickets. Perhaps he should stop that policy and allow the NFL to black out our games this year. That should be a nice wake up call.

 

Well my dad and I from NY, and my brother from NC are heading down for a game this fall .... if that helps. We'll buy a lot of beer, I promise.

 

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

The same here!

 

Or maybe the tickets are really expensive and people are waiting to see if the investment is worthwhile.

Got to love the self righteousness of people who don't live in South Florida, and will never buy a ticket pontificating about what others should do and what they would do if they lived here.

Ridiculous

 

That is exactly what makes a bad sports town.

 

I've been to a bunch of games this year and it's the same thing all the time. It's more of a club environment than a passionate basketball fanbase. But go ahead, tell me that the AAA is the new Madison Square Garden or has a rabid fanbase that stands up and cheers or builds energy comparable to other NBA venues.

Miami sports fan suck, plain and simple. That's a fact.

However, if your goal is to sit around a bunch of clueless basketball fans with hot trophy wives, then the you're good to go.

 

No, it's not a fact. It's asinine banter from people who should know better.

Are Boston sports fans bad because they left the stadium during the Wildcat game?

 

Asinine banter? Please.

I'm not saying passionate fans like us are the problem. Of course there are thousands of hardcore Heat and Dolphins fans that are as passionate about sports as any major market fanbase.

I am strictly talking about the stadium experience. It flat out SUCKS. Heat games are a fashion show. The fans never stand or really get riled up unless it's a close game with a minute on the clock. Same thing at JRS. I can't tell you how many times I was told to sit down on a big 3rd down play or turning point in game.

In all honestly I get so frustrated at these venues that I'd rather save my money and watch from home where I can pace around, scream and get fired up without a section full of people looking at my like I'm some weirdo.

 

This is pretty much the standard for every NBA team, unless it's the playoffs or a rivalry game.

 

Miami is a great market. When they are good and compete, they sell out. Sparano's first season, that last home game vs the Niners? Place was was jammed and rocking...and the place was jammed for the playoff Raven game.

It's not like NY or Green Bay where the drones come out no matter what. Build a winner and the fans do come.

It's the way it should be. Ross needs to feel the pressure to not stop until he has a winner on his hands, and never stop trying to get better. Because in Miami, you don't just bear the shame of leading a bad team, you hemorrhage money too.

 

Yeah, asinine banter. You're getting your opinion about the AAA from ESPN and the courtside view. Those seats cost thousands of dollars; the blue collar fans are up on the second level, because the second level is actually affordable. The "fashion show" down by courtside is a necessary evil to help pay for the contracts of the team you want to "pace around, scream and get fired up" for.

Leaping from what happens in courtside seating to "Miami sports fans suck" is absolutely asinine. Be careful of the company you keep with this opinion.

 

Well maybe I shouldn't sit court side anymore :pointlol:

 

Clearly it's the fans. There's just no way possible it could have anything to do with the teams recent struggles. None. Zero. Horrible, bandwagon fans. I mean, look at how the Heat started winning and now they're selling out every game. Stupid horrible bandwagon sports town.

 

you repeat this stuff like clockwork, and it doesn't make it any more true.

Watch games everywhere else. it is the same.

The Heat fan does not deserve ONE OUNCE of criticism. They are paying through the nose, and showing up in droves.

 

Yes, everyone understands that tickets will sell if the team is winning. Being a good football market means tickets are selling whether the team is good or bad though.

 

No. it is not the New Madison Square Garden.

it has better attendance, so it's better.

oh..and MSG..is a grade A DUMP.

 

What are there, 7, 8 good markets...tops? And in 4 sport towns?

 

That's your opinion. Do the Chicago Cubs benefit from selling out every game despite being a cellar dweller on a consistent basis? I'm sure they're hardcore fans take solace in the fact they're a "good baseball market".

 

Well they already have done that for the most part. Last year ST's were down to about 46,000 and this year they estimated about 39,000 last time I saw a figure. Maybe that has upticked a bit, but I doubt is surpasses last year.

The Dolphins have to win their fans back, its as simple as that.

 

Just to be clear your point here is that being a good market doesn't really matter?

 

Here is why ticket sales are suffering at JRS.

I HATE going to the games, and will only go for big games Patriots, Ravens, etc..) and the Jets.

I gave away 7 of the 8 games last year.

I much rather watch the game plus the red zone channel with friends, while good food and drink is being served.

 

A f*cking men

 

What if Ross stopped bailing out the blackouts? Do you think people like yourself and your friends would go to the stadium over listening to the game on the radio?

 

Why is it that commentary on Dolphins ticket sales and attendance turns into "Screw Miami sports fans, screw the Heat, screw South Florida"?

 

If the team is competent...yes, I would go. If they are praying for .500. nah..I will listen to it, and then watch it the next day.

 

Just to be clear you are moving the goal posts

 

No it doesn't. It makes it a SMART sports town. They won't tolerate or support complacency and incompetence in their ownership, GM, coaches or players.

The Dolphins are the ones that had the great big wake up call. For years they were the only guy in town, even after the Heat, Marlins & Panthers arrived they were no real threat.

Well people have a real choice now in being entertained. They can either pay for Heat games and see an organization that knows how to build a winner and win championships. The Marlins and Panthers are just pathetic and the public won't support them.

There also is this thing called MLB.TV and NFL Sunday Ticket. They make is easy and comfortable to stay at home and watch games, without heat, or an unruly neighbor sitting in front of you that is fat & smelly and more than likely drunk, or stoned, or both.

I paid for tickets for 34 years. I don't feel guilty in the least sitting at home these days enjoying my beer & home cooked hamburgers, hot dogs and potato salad on a Dolphin home game Sunday.

 

How? My point is that Miami isn't a good football market because they don't buy tickets because the team is bad.

 

I'd rather be at the stadium pacing back and forth jumping up and down, screaming, and get riled up and have people think I'm a weirdo. I'm just not in a financial situation where I can afford going weekly.