San Diego: Meet Ted Ginn and the Wild Phin Offense.

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GISHGISHForum VeteranOP
Sep 23, 2008, 06:03 PM

I would be willing to wager large amounts of fake money that Ted Ginn is going to have a HUGE game against San Diego. Sparano mentioned in his presser something about there being others guys he had in mind for this new offensive set. First person I thought of was Ginn. Here's some of the potential ways we could get Ginn in on the action.

  • Swap out Fasano for Ginn, and let Ronnie hit him on a crossing route.

  • Swap out Ricky for Ginn, and option him on the reverse.

  • Swap out Fasano for Ginn, and have Ronnie pitch it to Pennington and hit Ginn deep.

  • Ginn at QB, with Ronnie on the reverse.

  • Ginn at QB, pitch to Pennington, then Chad pass it directly back to Ginn, with a convoy in front of him.

I think the Chargers are going to be focusing VERY HEAVILY on the run. There won't be a better time to get Ginn the ball.

Sep 23, 2008, 06:06 PM

The words Ginn and huge game just dont seem to go together very well...

Rick 1966Rick 1966Forum Veteran
Sep 23, 2008, 06:06 PM

I agree that San Diego is going to stack the box for the run, which will open up play action. I think we'll play a rather straight offense and count on the TEs and WRs to get open. I hope to God they CAN because we won't win otherwise. We may not win anyway, because San Diego's offense is one hell of a lot better than the Pats'.

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Sep 23, 2008, 06:14 PM

I think you will see ginns production increase bigtime because the coaches figured out a way to stretch the field, they could'nt do it vertically for the obvious reasons but there doing it horizontally which was freakin genious

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 06:53 PM

Ginn vs. Antonio Cromartie or vs. Quentin Jammer or vs. Antoine Cason doesn't really make me enthusastic. San Diego can stack the run but they've got some of the best corners in the business.

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NJFINSFAN1NJFINSFAN1Luxury Box
Sep 23, 2008, 07:00 PM

Wow, Ginn going to do all that? :wink2:

I think its going to be a very tough game, the Chargers can score points with anyone. They have one of the best offenses in the NFL period.

And it would not surprise me if we didn't see the Wildcat in two weeks, you can't use it all the time, maybe once in a while.

The thing with the Chargers is they have so many weapons, LT, Sproles, Gates, Chambers and Rivers. The Pats had Moss, that's it.

Can we win? Yes! Would I bet on it right now? NO

Ginn had a real tough day against Revis, he didn't play much against the Cards, had an okay day against a poor Pats secondary. Jammer, Cromartie and Cason are pretty good.

But than again, the Chargers have not really stopped anyone on defense yet either.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Sep 23, 2008, 07:08 PM

Yeah but he'll have no where near the prediction you thought he have last week with his 5,000 yards and 33 TD's :tongue2:

Also let it be known Ted Ginn has experience running in the wild hog formation.

GoPhins!GoPhins!Luxury Box
Sep 23, 2008, 07:19 PM

"gi§h® wrote:

I would be willing to wager large amounts of fake money that Ted Ginn is going to have a HUGE game against San Diego. Sparano mentioned in his presser something about there being others guys he had in mind for this new offensive set. First person I thought of was Ginn. Here's some of the potential ways we could get Ginn in on the action.

  • Swap out Fasano for Ginn, and let Ronnie hit him on a crossing route.

  • Swap out Ricky for Ginn, and option him on the reverse.

  • Swap out Fasano for Ginn, and have Ronnie pitch it to Pennington and hit Ginn deep.

  • Ginn at QB, with Ronnie on the reverse.

  • Ginn at QB, pitch to Pennington, then Chad pass it directly back to Ginn, with a convoy in front of him.

I think the Chargers are going to be focusing VERY HEAVILY on the run. There won't be a better time to get Ginn the ball.

I'll tell you what. I will make that one of the betting questions on TP.C Bookie for the week 5 bets. How about: Ted Ginn will score a TD this week (2 to 1 odds)?

GridIronKing34GridIronKing34Forum Veteran
Sep 23, 2008, 07:28 PM

"Regan21286 wrote:

Ginn vs. Antonio Cromartie or vs. Quentin Jammer or vs. Antoine Cason doesn't really make me enthusastic. San Diego can stack the run but they've got some of the best corners in the business.

Jammer would be the only one that scares me. Cromartie is the most overrated corner in the NFL, IMO and Cason is a rookie.

Vengeful OdinVengeful OdinForum Veteran
Sep 23, 2008, 07:31 PM

"GoPhins! wrote:

I'll tell you what. I will make that one of the betting questions on TP.C Bookie for the week 5 bets. How about: Ted Ginn will score a TD this week (2 to 1 odds)?

Too bad Gish is broke ...

LarryfinfanLarryfinfanSupporter
Sep 23, 2008, 07:32 PM

How about putting Ginn back at KR ?? The Chargers KO coverage team seems to be the only one I've seen this season worse than ours ??

I know it's a radical idea, after all, who would have forseen Ginn as a KR but you never know, right ???

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!

GoPhins!GoPhins!Luxury Box
Sep 23, 2008, 07:33 PM

"Vengeful Odin wrote:

Too bad Gish is broke ...

:lol: Well, too bad for him. I have already put it in the database. Plus a bet on the "Wild Phin" formation.

Sorry Gish! But it was a good idea for the bookie. :up:

BumrushBumrushSupporter
Sep 23, 2008, 07:33 PM

If we are talking about this on a public message board you better be damn sure the San Diego coaching staff is already preparing for scenarios we couldn't even dream of :D

BumrushBumrushSupporter
Sep 23, 2008, 07:35 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

How about putting Ginn back at KR ?? The Chargers KO coverage team seems to be the only one I've seen this season worse than ours ??

I know it's a radical idea, after all, who would have forseen Ginn as a KR but you never know, right ???

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!

Since we drafted him and his family, maybe we should check first with them to see if he wants to go back on KR/PR duty.

GoPhins!GoPhins!Luxury Box
Sep 23, 2008, 07:38 PM

"Vengeful Odin wrote:

Too bad Gish is broke ...

I guess that means that he has an online wagering problem. :tongue2:

ALalen1New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 07:39 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Jammer would be the only one that scares me. Cromartie is the most overrated corner in the NFL, IMO and Cason is a rookie.

Why do you find a guy who has great athleticism, speed and size for a Cornerback overrated? He can certainly create turnovers. Are you faulting him for playing on the opposite side of Quentin "I dropped 7 possible INT's last year" Jammer?

BumrushBumrushSupporter
Sep 23, 2008, 07:39 PM

"GoPhins! wrote:

I guess that means that he has an online wagering problem. :tongue2:

Yeah he is a true die-hard. He picked the Phins 16 times last year :pointlol::pointlol:

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 07:40 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Jammer would be the only one that scares me. Cromartie is the most overrated corner in the NFL, IMO and Cason is a rookie.

agreed, cromartie gets a lot of picks but he also gets beat like a drum. Thats why despite leading the league n interceptions last year cromartie didn't start for a good amount of the year.

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 07:43 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Why do you find a guy who has great athleticism, speed and size for a Cornerback overrated? He can certainly create turnovers. Are you faulting him for playing on the opposite side of Quentin "I dropped 7 possible INT's last year" Jammer?

hes gets a lot of picks i'll give him that. But unfortunately he also gets beat all over the field, just look at the Bronco game. I equate him almost with a Mike Jacobs in baseball, he'll hit the long ball but beyond that he won't do anything else.

ALalen1New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 07:48 PM

"Dannyg28 wrote:

hes gets a lot of picks i'll give him that. But unfortunately he also gets beat all over the field, just look at the Bronco game. I equate him almost with a Mike Jacobs in baseball, he'll hit the long ball but beyond that he won't do anything else.

He's, imo, a top ten to fifteen CB. I don't know how highly people think of him around the league so that may be the reason why GIK said he's overrated. I think he's a good player for his age. He will likely improve more and I think he can be one of the top CB's in this league.

Dannyg28Dannyg28New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 08:05 PM

"alen1 wrote:

He's, imo, a top ten to fifteen CB. I don't know how highly people think of him around the league so that may be the reason why GIK said he's overrated. I think he's a good player for his age. He will likely improve more and I think he can be one of the top CB's in this league.

there was talk of him being the best corner in the entire league last year.

ALalen1New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 08:06 PM

"Dannyg28 wrote:

there was talk of him being the best corner in the entire league last year.

Eh. lol.

FIFinsAreLifeNew Member
Sep 23, 2008, 08:10 PM

Ginns due up for a big performance i just dont see it against san diego though. this offense does have possibilities though.

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Sep 23, 2008, 08:51 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Jammer would be the only one that scares me. Cromartie is the most overrated corner in the NFL, IMO and Cason is a rookie.

Cromartie against a raw-as-sushi WR in Ginn? It's like no contest at all. Cromartie can get beat by seasoned and tall WR's who run crisp routes. Ted Ginn is not any of those. Keeping in mind that Cromartie's still a young guy himself, eventually once he picks up some more fine points, he'll be #1. Cason may be a rookie but he's got his position down more than Ginn does at his own. He's on pace for 80 tackles and has one more pick than our entire CB corps this year. Believe me, he doesn't look like a rookie right now.

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DEDennyCraneNew Member
Sep 24, 2008, 12:39 AM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Jammer would be the only one that scares me. Cromartie is the most overrated corner in the NFL, IMO and Cason is a rookie.

I think u may want to rethink your opinion on those 3. They are ALL very good.