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Saturday Games Thread - Week 2

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by alen1, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    He is not a good pro prospect IMO.
     
  2. Boomer

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    It's interesting because he has:

    * good mechanics
    * decent arm
    * excellent pocket ability
    * good feet
    * very accurate in that 0-20 yard area
    * TERRIFIC ball faker

    ......but he's still making some of the same basic errors from 2 seasons ago:

    * greedy down the field
    * will rarely check down
    * throws off the back foot too much
    * that decent arm isn't great and it can get him into trouble
    * not great touch in that 0-20 yard area.

    It's easy to say he's a system QB but he plays under center a lot more than your average system QB and he's clean coming out from center and in his drops. Ball still comes out low at times. Tough.
     
  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I don't like his arm much, honestly. I don't like his deep accuracy. I don't like his ball placement at times. I don't like his decision making. I don't like his size. I don't like the system he's coming from - yes I said it. :)
     
  4. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Trent Richardson, you are ridiculous.
     
  5. Boomer

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    I think if he played under control more and didn't try and force things down the field as much, a lot of those concerns would go away. It's typical "great college player" syndrome. In part the player is to blame but I also think the coaches need to take responsibility as well. When your star QB is making the same mistakes he made as a sophomore, then that's bad coaching. The arm, decision making and ball placement issues all go away if he checks down. He completed a long ball to Edwards off the back foot into double coverage against UTEP which was an adventure and could have been a pick. But he has James Cleveland on a drag route underneath at around the 10 yard level that's a) easier and b) less risky.

    The first long ball of the game goes 58 yards in the air and it's perfectly in stride with the WR not having to quicken or slow down so he can do it. He needs to do it using his brain a bit more.
     
  6. Boomer

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    What did he do?
     
  7. alen1

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    He has some things going for him, like his quick release, but overall, I don't rate him very highly. Honestly, its still early, but if he goes higher than the fifth round, I'll be surprised.
     
  8. alen1

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    He's just running all over Penn St. and bouncing off wimpy tacklers. They can't bring him down and he falls forward EVERY TIME. He's something else, he's not human.
     
  9. Boomer

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    Yeah, I think a round higher personally because he has the things you can't teach and you can work quite a lot of the things he has issues with. He was apparently pretty impressive throwing at the Manning QB camp. Not Colin Kaepernick impressive but pretty solid.
     
  10. Boomer

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    Earl Thomas can tackle him.
     
  11. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    He's small and has big issues IMO. I don't know but I wouldn't take a quarterback like that, not anywhere before round five. However, I do respect your opinion a significant amount so it's possible he goes round four. I would just be surprised.

    You like Kaepernick? Me not so much.
     
  12. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Haha!
     
  13. BuckeyeKing

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    When the Seahawks were playing the Vikings, Earl Thomas made some nice tackles.
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Yeah, I think that was a shot at KB. Thomas has done well in pre-season.
     
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  15. Boomer

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    I like Kaepernick's tools. But I think he's better than Vince Young was in terms of translatable skills. And I know that he was absolutely stunning at the Manning QB camp and I also know that a number of people think he'll go in round 1.

    I love the arm and the feet and the college level production but I think you'll have to break the mechanics up, I don't see touch or great accuracy although I see improvements. I certainly wouldn't touch him in 1.
     
  16. alen1

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    You like him more than I do. I don't see him round one. Probably not two either.
     
  17. BuckeyeKing

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    He has great balance and a strong lower body. Very tough runner, going to be something on Sundays.
     
  18. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Agree. He's also tough as hell.
     
  19. Boomer

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    Hell I don't like him in 1 either. But you can't deny he has a monster arm, he's mobile and he puts up amazing numbers.

    Now Michael Bishop had a monster arm, Tommie Frazier was mobile and Andy Kelly put up amazing numbers but none had NFL careers.
     
  20. alen1

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    Right. I don't think he's accurate, his delivery is sidearm and it changes, he's got an arm but no accuracy down the field and he's mobile but I think that his running ability will be minimized once he gets into the NFL, reason being lack of space and defenders close quicker. To me, that spells fourth round at best.
     
  21. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I'd take Jerrod Johnson before I took Colin Kaepernick.
     
  22. Boomer

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    I agree with all that. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him go a lot higher.
     
  23. Boomer

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    So would I .
     
  24. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Personally, I would. To each their own though.
     
  25. alen1

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    I think Johnson has some talent. He needs a ton of work but he's got some talent.
     
  26. Boomer

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    Geez, James Madison over Virginia Tech? That's taken some air out of Boise's balloon.
     
  27. Sethdaddy8

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    NJ
    What happened to Mark Ingram?
     
  28. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Hurt his knee two weeks ago. Should be back next week.
     
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    Thee...Ohio State University
    The words "relevant to" should be on ST Nicks tombstone, that guy still loves that expression.

    But probobly the best CFB coach in the country.
     
  30. Stitches

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    Seconded.

    Just finished watching the game. I am very disappointed in the tackling on defense, but aside from that it wasn't really anything I didn't expect. The defense doesn't have the speed to keep up with Alabama's skill guys, and really seem to not have a lot of "talent" in the secondary in general. There are football players back there, who won't quit, and will give there all, they just don't have the physical skill to back it up for the most part.

    I know Bolden didn't have a great game statistically, and he made a couple bad decisions and a couple bad throws but I was happy with it. The game never seemed to big, and he stayed tough in the pocket. He was poised, and didn't really stare anyone down. That was an NFL defense that he went up against in his 2nd game ever (with only like 2 months of practice), and he was more respectable than many other QBs I've seen over the years who have far more experience.
     
  31. Stitches

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    Gardener-Webb over the mighty Zips as well. :no:
     
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  32. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    His guys had a couple drops too.
     
  33. Stitches

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    The Zug one over the middle on 3rd down was brutal. Wide open, great throw under pressure, and he just let Bolden down.
     
  34. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Yeah I saw that one and just turned away from the TV.
     

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