Really stretching now aren't you?..................

 

Having final say in personnel decisions does not constitute a promotion in comparison to Pioli's current job. Promotions are determined by job titles. Pioli would be the General Manager here, just as he is in New England.

And I have yet to hear people explain why Scott Pioli would leave New England for Miami in the first place. "He's Parcells' son-in-law" makes no sense, because under the "relationship to Parcells" theory we could expect Bill Belichick to be our coach in 2008. Also, the "Pioli to Miami" talk has been around longer than Parcells.

 

No, it is not. Per NFL regulations, promotions are determined by job titles and organizational hierarchy, not scope of authority.

 

Pioli had a chance to run a franchise by himself when Ernie Accorsi retired as GM of the Giants. He turned the job down.

I don't know why people are so unable to grasp the idea that Scott Pioli may actually be happy in his current job.

 

Yes, Pioli is Parcell's son-in-law. That's completely irrelevant as to whether or not Pioli would leave New England to become the GM of a divisional rival after repeatedly turning down offers from non-divisional teams.

 

I wouldn't say someone being family is irrelevant, thats just silly. Parcells might be able to get Pioli to come to Miami if the opportunity long-term looks better here than in New England. He could conceivably replace Parcells in a few years and run the organization, does he have that same opportunity in New England? Maybe maybe not. I don't see the guy leaving the situation in New England, at least not at this point but I don't see how anyone can say that someone being family and being close to someone doesn't matter, thats a little out there.

 

It really doesn't matter. The underlying problem is that even if Parcells could convince Pioli to come to Miami, New England would not have to release him from his contract as the Dolphins job wouldn't constitute a promotion. And if there's one thing the Pats will absolutely not do it's letting their best personell guy jump ship to a division rival because his father in law is the VP there.

The only way of getting Pioli (apart from having to convince him to leave a dynasty in favor of a mess) is to grant him full personell control - which would make the Tuna hiring rather silly.

 

Ofcourse being in the same family as someone matters, silly to think otherwise. Ofcourse I don't see it happening for the reasons mentioned here but I think the only thing that gives it a shot is because of their relationship and the fact that he could get inline for a future job here taking complete control. Its a long shot but I think the only thing that gives it any possibility is having Parcells here, any other person in charge and it could never happen.

 

In fact, it's the other way round: The Parcell's signing makes it virtually impossible. If Huizenga would have offered the Tuna's job to Pioli, the Pats would have had to let him walk. By hiring Parcells, however, Huizanga quite literally closed the door on Pioli. Sure, you could assume that Bill Belichik is going to say, gee, Scott, of course I don't mind if you make our division rival competitive again and leave us without a proven personell guy, but frankly that sounds like snowball, hell and all that stuff ;)

 

Right, he is the V.P. of player personnel. I believe that GM would be a step down, bro

 

That's not entirely true. Theoretically, the Dolphins could create a position for Pioli (i.e. "Imperial Supervisor of the Draft and all that Stuff") which on paper would constitute a promotion from his NE job. However, the Patriots could legitimately argue that Pioli's new job wasn't a promotion at all (he doesn't have final say now and wouldn't then) and ultimately block him from leaving.

The only way of making the Pats let Pioli go is to give him final authority over personell matters. But if we do that, what's Parcells going to do?

 

The NFL front office isn't staffed by a bunch of drones. It's pretty easy to tell when a new job is a promotion and when it isn't.

 

Why are we dismissing personal relationships as a factor? Didn't Parcells actually come to Miami because h Wayne and he are personal friends and he said he wouldn't relinquish majority ownership if Bill came down?

 

Parcells = Palpatine(Darth Sidious)

Pioli = Anakin Skywalker

 

I will settle for anyone instead of another draft my Mueller. But hey as long as you know their family its okay - draft them in the first round! We could always use another kick returner for our first pick!