Scottish scientists brew up whisky biofuel
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Topdawg13New MemberOP
A research team from Edinburgh's Napier University spent two years creating the biofuel butanol that can be used in gas tanks either as a stand-alone fuel or blended with petrol or diesel, they announced this week.
It is derived from distillation by-products pot ale (liquid from copper stills) and draff (the spent grains).
The method is based on an old process that was developed to produce butanol and acetone by fermenting sugar.
Is this the answer for critics of corn-based, energy-intensive ethanol?
"While some energy companies are growing crops specifically to generate biofuel, we are investigating excess materials such as whisky by-products to develop them," Professor Martin Tangey, director of Napier's Biofuel Research Center told the Financial Times.
"This is a more environmentally sustainable option and potentially offers new revenue on the back of one of Scotland's biggest industries."
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
my 2 centsforum_veteran"Topdawg13 wrote:
Not that easy Dawg......Dakota Gassification already does this in the US...or at least tries...problem is in the acetone........producing Acetone gives you ALL KINDS of EPA trouble ...producing acetone also produces acetophenone and Phenol by one process or cumnene by another.........cannot inventory either and the biggest market driver for acetone and phenol is the construction industry and that by the way SUCKS........AND Acetone is VERY VERY ENERGY intensive especially from coal gassification.................
DG uses coal gassification process which the EPA "ain't a big fan of" which also produces phenol....and coal production is not exactly high on this administrations list of developing industries and the tree hugger issues will gio from "natural fuels" to "Do not strip our resources". Butanol is one of the other ingredients andf butanol is not any mnore environmentally friendly than coal gassified acetone.................
People will LOVE this idea until they actualkly understand it............btw this is old old old old technology....................................not really new unless there is something that has been devloped past what I know of and have read, including here.
MikeHonchosubscriberPshaw, Ireland's had this stuff for years. They just haven't gotten around to putting it out there.
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Topdawg13New Member"my 2 cents wrote:
Not that easy Dawg......Dakota Gassification already does this in the US...or at least tries...problem is in the acetone........producing Acetone gives you ALL KINDS of EPA trouble ...producing acetone also produces acetophenone and Phenol by one process or cumnene by another.........cannot inventory either and the biggest market driver for acetone and phenol is the construction industry and that by the way SUCKS........AND Acetone is VERY VERY ENERGY intensive especially from coal gassification.................
DG uses coal gassification process which the EPA "ain't a big fan of" which also produces phenol....and coal production is not exactly high on this administrations list of developing industries and the tree hugger issues will gio from "natural fuels" to "Do not strip our resources". Butanol is one of the other ingredients andf butanol is not any mnore environmentally friendly than coal gassified acetone.................
People will LOVE this idea until they actualkly understand it............btw this is old old old old technology....................................not really new unless there is something that has been devloped past what I know of and have read, including here.
Well this is a fairly new article, so they're either "regurgitating" old ideas, or maybe they have developed some new ideas/technologies. Oh, and I never said it was easy, I just try to find interesting articles, and post them, Weather or not they're feasible technologies, only time will tell.
Also.................
The biofuel project cost about $400,000 and was funded by the Scottish Enterprise Proof of Concept Programme. It is no joke, although the blogosphere is overflowing with the descriptions such as: "Whisky to go?" and "One for the road?"
The group has filed for a patent and plans to open a commercial venture to market the product.
This group of scientists are going for a patent, so they must feel they have something worth-while to protect.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
my 2 centsforum_veteran"Topdawg13 wrote:
Oh, and I never said it was easy, I just try to find interesting articles, and post them, Weather or not they're feasible technologies, only time will tell.
Also.................
This group of scientists are going for a patent, so they must feel they have something worth-while to protect.
No issues Dawg, there are always new tweaks on old technologies but I personally just doubt the long term prognosis for this technology to significantly impact our same ole same ole energy situation....and thanks for the article .....these things interest me....thanks again.
ScottishFinsubscriber**** it , if it means more whisky will be made then im all for it :D
Topdawg13New Member"ScottishFin wrote:
**** it , if it means more whisky will be made then im all for it :D
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
padre31luxury_box"ScottishFin wrote:
**** it , if it means more whisky will be made then im all for it :D
Besides, if you have a flat you can keep yourself occupied..then the only thing gassed up would just be the Opal...:D
Eshlemonforum_veteran"ScottishFin wrote:
**** it , if it means more whisky will be made then im all for it :D
At double the price if same results happen with grain & whiskey as which occured with corn & ethanol.
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