Section126's Top 50 Current NBA Players.

No love for the Atlantic division PGs in Rondo and Harris?

If Rondo ever develops the ability to knock down a 17 footer with any type of consistency, he'll be among the most talented PGs in the league.

 

like how you added Russell Westbrook

i take it you think he's ROY??

 

yeah he is.

What is awesome for him he wasnt a major recruit out of HS and he developed so much from his Freshman to his Sophomore Yr at UCLA that it shocked all the fans. None of us expected him to progress so much in that little of time.

 

Calderon is pretty good but he didnt distinguish himself as much as I had hoped he would. I envisioned him as the next Steve Nash when in reality hes just a lot more average then that. Good passer but hes not a commanding presence.

Do us all a favor and flip Durant and Iggy. By next year this time Durant will be a top 7 player. He is on the verge of being simply ridiculous. And hes going to have a sweet supporting cast with Westbrook, Green, Sefolosha (Who they outright stole from Chicago) and now another lottery pick. 3 years or less they will be a top seed in the west if they get a quality big. He averaged 25 a game, rebounds adequately well for a SF, not a great passer yet but not bad and he shoots the ball really well from everywhere. Almost 48% from the floor/86% from the line/41% on 3's.

I would flip Granger and Brand and possibly still slide Granger up a few more spots. Hes a borderline top 20 player. There's nothing he doesnt do well. He is what Rudy Gay should be.

For the love of God get Tmac off that list bro. Any of your "knocking on the door picks" would have been better then him. Rose especially deserves to be on that list. He will be a top 20 player sooner then later.

Shawn Marion is a shell of what he was. He doesnt belong on this list anymore. Sub in Devin Harris. This is one of the most glaring disagreements I have. Marion needs to be in an up-tempo offense if he wants to be effective at this point in his career.

Those top 4 players (imo its Lebron, Wade, Paul, Kobe) you can debate all day but #5 is not debateable. Its Dwight Howard. The games most dominant big man plays with the heart and passion Dirk lacks and he's the best defensive player in the game.

Tyson Chandler doesnt belong on that list either. Sub in either Ray allen, Vince Carter, OJ Mayo, or Mo Williams. Your choice. Theyre all better then Chandler. Maggette and Josh Howard are just as interchangeable as the players on this list and theyre strictly scorers who dont do much else particularly well. Carter, Mayo, Williams, and Allen are more complete players who arent nearly as high maintenance.

Ramon Sessions needs to at least be on the waiting list. He was absolutely excellent when he was given the chance to play. Anyone who plays fantasy basketball knows exactly how good he was. He's closer to being a top tier PG then maybe even Calderon.

Gerald Wallace needs to be moved way down. Id swap him with Al Jefferson if Jefferson was healthy but seeing as how he's not we'll leave Jefferson where he is and instead swap Wallace and Caron Butler.

Boozer and Yao could be flipped. Yao is a better offensive player and a more intimidating player in the paint.

There's a few other tweaks I would make but overall the list isnt bad. You had most of the right players just the wrong spots in my opinion. But you know there is going to be disagreement when you make a list like this.

 

So Mo Williams isnt a great defender? On one of the leagues best defenses? Hes not a winner? On the leagues winningest team? Please. Corey Maggette is a good player but hes a 6th man on one of the worst teams in the league. Josh Howard could be on this list in any given year talent wise but hes a headcase. I would take any of the players I listed over him even in his best year. Hes simply not as talented and not as good. But id rather see him on this list then Maggette who's inclusion is frankly inexplicable bro.

Wallace is a fantasy basketball players dream because he plays the passing lanes well and is a good weakside defender. But he is not a great on the ball defender as he gets overpowered and relies strictly on his athleticism. His offensive game and shooting leave something to be desired though Id find a spot for him somewhere on thsi list for sure. Just not ahead of Danny granger.

T-Mac is T-Rash now. Washed up, done, game over. Hes always been a poor shooter. He couldnt get it done with Yao and Artest its never happening for him.

 

You re-doing this list before the 09-10 season, Sec?

BTW - I think Derrick Rose and maybe Devin Harris have both knocked their ways in.

 

Nate Robinson averages like 17 a game and is a hell of a lot more entertaining and is also a better player. What exactly has Maggette's game won? Nothing since college. He was overrated then and he's overrated now.

 

I dont know what more you need to see from harris? he's a hell of a lot better then I ever thought he was. They outright stole him from Dallas. I would take him over Kidd right now straight up let alone the fact NJN got other players with him. Rod Thorn is a master and we are mere mortals.

Rose kind of reminds me of a lesser Dwayne Wade. His game is all about getting to the rack and getting to the stripe and he does a great job of it as a rookie. He lacks the body control and overall strength Wade lacks but Rose's rookie season is damn comparable to Wade's.

Beasley is the one that worries me. He's already a top 50 talent but I see too much Zach Randolph in his game. He scores and rebounds, worries about his 20 and 10 but he hasnt shown himself to be a committed defender either in the pro's or college.

 

I think I'm going to work on a Top 50 after the playoffs... or maybe sometime during. Always thought about doing one. Should be fun.

I think every NBA fan should come up with their own.

My top 5 is locked in:

1. LeBron James (CLE)
2. Dwyane Wade (MIA)
3. Kobe Bryant (LAL)
4. Dwight Howard (ORL)
5. Chris Paul (NO)

 

You can make the same argument for maggette being the third best player on his team behind biendrins and ellis. While robinsons shot selection can be questionable at times he too is a good passer and he's a catalyst...when he plays well the knicks win.

 

My top 50 list:
1. Lebron James
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Chris Paul
5. Dwight Howard
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Tim Duncan
8. Deron Williams
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Kevin Durant
11. Chauncey Billups
12. Amare Stoudamire
13. Danny Granger
14. Carmelo Anthony
15. Brandon Roy
16. Yao Ming
17. Paul Pierce
18. Chris Bosh
19. Steve Nash
20. Tony Parker
21. Joe Johnson
22. Pau Gasol
23. Caron Butler
24. David West
25. Baron Davis
26. Carlos Boozer
27. Andre Igodala
28. Manu Ginobli
29. Allen Iverson
30. Al Jefferson
31. Devin Harris
32. LaMarcus Aldridge
33. Rudy Gay
34. Gerald Wallace
35. Rashard Lewis
36. Gilbert Arenas
37. Derrick Rose
38. Mo Williams
39. Antawn Jamison
40. Vince Carter
41. Marcus Camby
42. Monta Ellis
43. Shaquille O' Neal
44. Andre Miller
45. Ron Artest
46. Kevin Martin
47. Ray Allen
48. OJ Mayo
49. Marvin Williams
50. Jason Kidd

On the Bubble: Rajon Rondo, Ben Gordon, Rasheed Wallace, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Zach Randolph, Josh Howard, J.R. Smith, Richard Hamilton, Russell Westbrook, Eric Gordon, Shawn Marion, Andrew Bynum, Chris Kaman, and Al Horford.

The top four are interchangeable in my opinion. You can make a great case for any of them and we would have an argument for days. Howard needs another great year or two to get in the discussion and he's certainly capable of it.

I gave Garnett the nod over Duncan by virtue of the fact that Garnett is simply a better player at this point. Garnett is probably a more meaningful player to his team. In the 20+ games Garnett has missed the Celtics are averaging 8 more PPG allowed. Williams is right on the brink of overtaking them both. He's only a shade behind Paul stats wise and only his health prevents him from being on an equal par.

Durant will eventually be a better version of Dirk. Dirk still has a better all around game in my opinion while Durant may already be a better scorer.

Billups is just a winner. His stats dont justify his ranking because he clearly doesnt worry so much about stats as he does wins when you watch him play.

 

Beasley will not be in a top 20 list next year. Only in a Miami bias list.

 

He couldnt even get 1 first place vote for rookie of the year. Please stop this bias nonsense.

 

He's a troll Section and a bad one.

 

Dwight over Carmelo was an interesting choice. Great list, though.

 

Tyreke evans will be there before the season ends. Crazy talent right there. Won't be suprised if blak griffin cracks top 50 as well

 

Stephen Curry in there eh?