Gonna be ugly here all week here in Mobile AL according to the weather guessers. We will have rain storms off and on including on game day. Could make for some miserable practices
Measurements (to be updated) Emmanuel Acho, LB Texas-6'1" 235 Joe Adams, WR Arkansas-5'10 1/2" 174 Mike Adams, OL Ohio State-6'7" 323 Antonio Allen, DB South Carolina-6'1 1/4" 202 Jeff Allen, OL Illinois-6'4" 306 Vick Ballard, RB Mississippi State-5'10 1/8" 217 Dwight Bentley, DB Louisiana Lafayette-5'9 7/8" 176 Jake Bequette, DL Arkansas-6'4 1/2" 264 Tony Bergstrom, OL Utah-6'5 1/2" 315 Will Blackwell, OL LSU-6'3 1/2" 314 Philip Blake, OL Baylor-6'2 3/8" 312 Brandon Boykin, DB Georgia-5'9 1/4" 183 Nigel Bradham, LB Florida State-6'1 5/8" 237 Andre Branch, DL Clemson Mike Brewster, OL Ohio State-6'4 1/8" 310 James Brown, OT Troy-6'3 1/2" 307 Zach Brown, LB North Carolina-6'1 3/8" 236 Randy Bullock, K Texas A&M Drew Butler, P Georgia Audie Cole, LB North Carolina State-6'4 1/8" 248 Quentin Coples, DL North Carolina-6'5 3/4" 281 Kirk Cousins, QB Michigan State-6'2 1/8" 209 Jack Crawford, DL Penn State-6'4 7/8" 268 Juron Criner, WR Arizona-6'2 1/8' 220 Mike Daniels, DL Iowa Vinny Curry, DL Marshall-6'3" 265 Lavonte David, LB Nebraska- 6'0 1/4" 225 Alfonzo Dennard, DB Nebraska-5'10" 203 Chad Diehl, RB Clemson-6'1 1/2" 257 Patrick Edwards, WR Houston-5'8 7/8" 168 Michael Egnew, TE Missouri-6'5 1/4" 251 Bradie Ewing, RB Wisconsin Jamell Fleming, DB Oklahoma-5'10 5/8" 202 Donnie Fletcher, DB Boston College-6'0 1/4" 201 Nick Foles, QB Arizona-6'5" 244 Jeff Fuller, WR Texas A&M-6'4 1/8" 217 Terrance Ganaway, RB Baylor-5'11 1/2" 241 Garth Gerhardt, OL Arizona State-6'1 1/8" 301 Cordy Glenn, OL Georgia-6'5 1/2" 346 TJ Graham, WR North Carolina State-5'11 3/8" 182 Cyrus Gray, RB Texas A&M-5'10 1/4" 198 Ladarius Green, TE Louisiana-Lafayette-6'5 3/4" 237 Josh Harris, DS Auburn Casey Hayward, DB Vanderbilt-5'11" 188 Dan Herron, RB Ohio State-5'9 1/4" 212 Jaye Howard, DL Florida-6'3" 292 George Iloka, DB Boise State-6'3 5/8" 222 Melvin Ingram, DL South Carolina-6'1 7/8' 276 Asa Jackson, DB Cal Poly-5'9 7/8" 193 Janoris Jenkins, DB North Alabama-5'9 3/4" 191 Tony Jerod-Eddie, DL Texas A&M-6'4" 303 Cam Johnson, DL Virginia-6'3 3/4" 267 James-Michael Johnson, LB Nevada-6'1 1/8" 249 Leonard Johnson, DB Iowa State-5'9 7/8" 198 Ben Jones, OL Georgia-6'2 5/8" 304 Dwight Jones, WR North Carolina-6'3 1/8" 226 Marvin Jones, WR California-6'1 7/8" 198 Selio Kelemete, OL Washington-6'3 1/2" 300 Ryan Lindley, QB San Diego State-6'3 3/4" 229 Brian Linthicum, TE Michigan State-6'3 3/4" 249 D'Anton Lynn, DB Penn State-5'11 5/8" 205 Doug Martin, RB Boise State-5'9" 219 Markelle Martin, DB Oklahoma State-6'0 3/4" 203 Mike Martin, DL Michigan-6'1 1/4" 307 Marquis Maze, WR Alabama-5'7 3/4" 184 Matt McCants, OL Alabama Birmingham-6'5 5/8" 309 Shea McClellin, LB Boise State-6'3 1/4" 248 Marvin McNutt, WR Iowa-6'2 1/2" 216 DeQuan Menzie, DB Alabama-5'10 1/2" 195 Kellen Moore, QB Boise State-5'11 3/4" 191 Brad Nortman, P Wisconsin Kelechi Osemele, OL Iowa State-6'5 3/8" 333 Isaiah Pead, RB Cincinnati-5'9 7/8" 193 Deangelo Peterson, TE LSU-6'2 7/8" 230 Chris Polk, RB Washington-5'10 1/2" 224 DeVier Posey, WR Ohio State-6'1 5/8" 209 Tydreke Powell, DL North Carolina-6'2 3/8" 309 Brian Quick, WR Appalachian State-6'3 1/2" 222 Chris Rainey, RB Florida-5'8 3/8" 178 Kheeston Randall, DL Texas Kendall Reyes, DL Connecticut-6'3 7/8" 300 Gerell Robinson, WR Arizona State-6'3 1/8" 223 Keenan Robinson, LB Texas-6'4 1/2" 240 Trenton Robinson, DB Michigan State-5'9 1/2" 193 Zebrie Sanders, OL Florida State-6'5 1/2" 308 Mitchell Schwartz, OL California-6'5 1/8" 317 Brad Smelley, TE Alabama-6'1 7/8" 233 Harrison Smith, DB Notre Dame-6'1 3/4" 212 Sean Spence, LB Miami-5'11 3/8" 228 Ryan Steed, DB Furman-5'10 3/8" 190 Alameda Ta'amu, DL Washington-6'2 1/2" 341 Brandon Taylor, DB LSU-5'11 1/8" 202 Brandon Thompson, DL Clemson-6'2" 311 Johnnie Troutman, OL Penn State-6'4 1/8" 325 Courtney Upshaw, LB Alabama-6'1 1/2" 273 William Vlachos, OL Alabama-6'0 3/8" 306 Bobby Wagner, LB Utah State-6'0 1/4" 241 Brandon Weeden, QB Oklahoma State-6'3 1/2" 219 Carson Wiggs, K Purdue Russell Wilson, QB Wisconsin-5'10 5/8" 203 Derek Wolfe, DL Cincinnati-6'4 7/8" 286 Billy Wynn, DL Boise State-6'3 3/8" 296 Kyle Wojta, DS Wisconsin Kevin Zeitler, OL Wisconsin-6'3 7/8" 315
There are some really good prospects playing this year. I'm glad it is becoming more and more popular for some top players to participate in the Senior Bowl. Can't wait to start reading reports about them!
Is he a bit overweight at 273? He always looks big boned when I watch him play and that's a lot of weight to have on a 6'2 frame. I still like him though.
That height on Russell WIlson is going to be difficult to overcome. I could easily see him lasting to the 5th round no matter how good he is at everything else. IMO the NFL is too rigid on these things for no good reason. IMO he could end up being a steal.
The guy I am interested in is Melvin Ingram from South Carolina. A little bit of a tweener in that he could maybe play DL forsomeone, but he moves well and has violent hands. And I mean violent, powerful hands. He's good at getting under people's pads and using leverage, although he has an inconsistent take off (which screams technique adjustment there) and he doesn't have a wide variety of pass rush moves. But he displays power and hand use. Two things I like in a pass rusher.
Not that good. Overall not a win for him. He was 6014 and 273 lbs. He needs to lose some weight if he's going to be a true linebacker and at that height, that's what he's going to have to be. I love how he moves considering he's 270+ lbs. But the bigger problem is that his hands are tiny at 8 and 5/8ths, and his arms are short at 31.5". Those measurements are going to kick him out of consideration by prototype followers like Jeff Ireland.
Height and weight wise I don't see a problem. Was not aware of his hands and arms. That's disappointing.
George Iloka is a big winner. He came in at a whopping 6035 with 222 lbs on his frame, 9 and 5/8ths hands and 34 inch arms. This is Kam Chancellor all over agian. Iloka made some plays at Boise State, too. Kirk Cousins coming in at 6022 is a win for him. There were some that were sure he was coming in at 6'1". Markelle Martin came in about 6'1" and 206 lbs, very solid. But small 8.5" hands will not convince people that he's going to be a ball hawk any time soon. That was the big nit pick about his game in Oklahoma State, too many dropped balls. Quinton Coples coming in 6'6" and 281 lbs...looks great. Not freakish long arms or anything though, "only" at 33 and 1/8th. Over 10 inch hands, plenty big enough. Melvin Ingram even worse off than Upshaw. He's about a full 6'2" and 276 lbs but with 30.5 inch arms, he's a T-Rex. Hands big enough at 9.25". Kelechi Osemele went on a diet and made himself some money at 6053 and 333 lbs, 10 and 3/8ths hands and 35.25" arms. Cordy Glenn even bigger at 6054 and 346 lbs (believe he's the heaviest in Mobile), 10" hand and 35 and 1/8th arms. Mike Adams is a monster at 6070 and 323 lbs, 11 inch hands and 33.75" arms. But give some credit to Zebrie Sanders matching his 11 inch hands on a 6054 frame with 308 lbs, looking pretty trim and athletic, with requisite 34 and 5/8ths arms. Nick Foles is the monster at QB with a full 6050 and 244 lbs, monstrous 10.75 inch hands and 33 inch arms. I actually would prefer shorter arms. Better for passing mechanics. Ryan Lindley came in 6036 and 229 lbs, 10 and 1/8th inch hands, 32.25" arms. Russell Wilson is only 5105 but 203 lbs with 10 inch hands and 31.25" arms. Brandon Weeden is a veritable t-rex (which I like in my QBs), at 6034 and 219 lbs, with 9.5 inch hands and 30 and 5/8ths arms. Kellen Moore's 29 and 7/8ths arms match his 5116 frame, but only 191 lbs on him is a big concern. Hands are big enough at 9 and 3/8ths. Ladarius Green has the WR like frame at 6056 and 237 lbs, 10 inch hands and 32 and 7/8ths arms. Jeff Fuller is huge of course, nothing new there, 6041 and 217 lbs with 9 and 3/8ths hands and 34 and 1/8th arms. Dwight Jones came in 6031 and a solid 226 lbs, with 9 inch hands and 33 and 5/8ths arms. Gerrell Robinson came in a "shredded" 6031 and 223 lbs with 10 inch hands and 32.5" arms. Joe Adams came in tall enough at 5104 but only 174 lbs which isn't near as much mass as he needs IMO. 9 and 3/8ths hands and 31 and 3/8ths arms. DeVier Posey is the guy that's a lot bigger than maybe some would have thought at 6015 and 209 lbs, 9.25" hands and 31 and 3/8ths arms. Poor Patrick Edwards of Houston is only 5087 and 168 lbs, 8.5" hands and 29 and 3/8ths arms. Yikes.
Marvin McNutt had the largest hands of any Senior Bowl WR... 10 1/8 inches. He's DEFINITELY worth looking at with our 2nd/3rd round pick.
Practice is on NFL Network right now if you have it Otherwise: http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/49037/1/watch-nfl-network.html
North and South practices are held simultaneously so you're forced to decide which one to go see. Jeff Ireland chose the South practice. That's the one featuring Brandon Weeden, Nick Foles and Ryan Lindley. Josh Norris says Lindley has the quickest release but that honor would belong to Weeden if not for a habit of patting the football with his off hand just before the throw. Foles slow release, doesn't like awkward mechanics in setup pre-release. Lindley already giving some Randall Cunningham/Donovan McNabb one-hoppers that hit the ground before they reach their intended target. Weeden already with a fumble on his first snap from under Center. Early jitters. Mike Mayock absolutely raving about Russell Wilson. Says he's another Doug Flutie and he doesn't care how tall he is. On the other hand he tore Kellen Clemens a new one. Scouts are raving about Sean Spence evidently, and some scouts like Mike Adams even as high as the top 15.
Jeff Fuller trying to work against Janoris Jenkins. Sounds like a good battle that Jenkins even at his small stature is (predictably) winning. Brandon Weeden with a beautiful deep ball to Juron Criner down the sidelines over Ryan Steed. Then another ball great touch on a 17 yard deep out after going through progression in 7 on 7. Boykin, Steed and Jenkins the most physical corners off the jam. Raheem Morris' DB Coaching already seeing the corners play way more press than we saw all last week (although IMO we saw tons of physical style coverage by East CBs). Dwight Jones gets off the press consistently, using his hands well in routes to get position, doing well so far. Brian Quick is leggy and having trouble getting out of breaks, catching the ball. Josh Norris says Ryan Lindley is throwing inexcusably low on about half of his throws.
Weeden continues with the hot hand, throwing a nice 15 yard in during 11 on 11's to a diving Joe Adams. Cordy Glenn working at Left Tackle (interesting) and controlled Courtney Upshaw on the play. Nick Foles gets would-be sacked twice in a row, holding the ball 5+ seconds both times. Brandon Thompson gets two pressures in a row right up the middle, good off the snap. Brian Quick runs right by Asa Jackson for a long TD. Wes Bunting says Cam Johnson is looking really good off the edge.
I have to say a lot of my guys are getting good reviews so far...Cam Johnson, Brandon Weeden, Brandon Thompson. Dwight Jones and Quinton Coples both looking good. Coples dominating Zebrie Sanders in pass rush.
Coples looking good in drills, dominating Zebrie Sanders in pass rush. Zebrie giving up too much ground, afraid of Coples speed around the edge. Ben Volin says that Kirk Cousins throws a "rocket" and that Vinny Curry is looking good. Wes Bunting says George Iloka is a little leggy but shows good burst out of breaks and finds the ball quickly, had a good practice. Melvin Ingram is having a tough time defending the edge on roll outs. Jake Bequette is not a linebacker, I think we know that. Ta'amu showing nothing in pass rush. Think we knew that too.
Omar Kelly thinks Alfonzo Dennard can run plenty well, which is a question some have about Dennard after Alshon Jeffery ran by him in the bowl game. Mitchell Schwartz (a tackle) was forced to take snaps from Center after Garth Gerhart left with an injury. He's held his own apparently, no problems. Ta'amu ha some reports saying he's not been good in pass rush but Tony Pauline loves his power off the snap, ability to push linemen into the backfield. Wes Bunting agrees but says he gets too high sometimes which limits him. TFY also thinks Mike Adams has been dominant in middle part of practice. TFY says that Brian Linthecum (whom I always liked better than teammate Charlie Gantt) has been very impressive all day, lots of catches, looks very athletic. Also according to TFY, Senio Kelemete has looked very impressive and very athletic all day stopping several good pass rushers like Jack Crawford and Vinny Curry dead in their tracks, dominating them. Mike Martin and Mike Brewster have had some excellent battles. Shea McLellin making the adjustment to LB pretty well so far. TFY doesn't share Omar Kelly's high opinion of Dennard, says he's struggled with back pedal and transition today, doesn't quite have his feet under him yet. Isaiah Pead has been the most elusive and creative ball carrier in North practice, on one run making two defenders miss with a cutback. Mike Egnew looking pretty smooth running and catching the ball. He's a big framed guy. Vinny Curry was initially matched on Mike Adams and actually beat Adams much of the time. Marvin Jones stood out in one on ones, may be the best route runner on the North Kirk Cousins with the best arm on the North. DeView Posey's looked good. T.J. Graham's looked good. Marvin McNutt struggled in early going. Kellen Moore does not look good. Gerrell Robinson struggling to catch the ball.
I would love for the Fins to draft Spence IF they are going to a 4-3 (which I do NOT believe is going to happen). TO me Spence is just a football player. Mike Adams is a guy I was hoping the FIns could get in the 2nd IF they dont address the OL in FA.
John Congimi...(spelling?) was just on finsiders.....he said Weeden looked really good out there. Said..he really looked the part. Showed leadership, and really got in well with recievers he had never played with before. Also mentioned when asked about the age issue, and he said....Weeden could just as well have an advantage with his age for some teams looking for a franchise QB, because you wont go through that GROW UP period with him.....overall sounded very impressed with Weeden...did say there is no way he is 6' 4 as he is listed....but the ball explodes of his hand...
Does anyone know any links to coverage on the Senior Bowl practices? I looked around on the NFL website, but could only find last years Senior Bowl clips. Thanks in advance!
Bit disappointed with the NFLN coverage today. 1 hour and they are interviewing Frazier for 5 minutes of it. Just show the one on one drills and let Mayock comment on it. All of the other stuff they can do afterwards. From little I saw... Mike Adams, T from Ohio State... good lord....
this might be a great year for the Phins to take advantage of all the Miami players that are underrated because of the horrific Miami playcalling/coaching. Spence, Lamar Miller, Streeter etc. I think they are all undervalued (then again i am an admitted UM homer).
If you mean Brandon Weeden then I think the answer is yes. If he clearly looks like a homerun QB his talent will begin to outweigh his age.
FWIW: Chatted up Chris Rainey and Patrick Edwards, two smaller, blazingly fast players, we can only hope this trend continues.
Great arm, but SO streaky. Look at his performance in the Outback Bowl, did nothing essentially for 3 1/2 quarters then he went full on beast mode and won the game.
