I don't know, with the way he ran that option with Ronnie... I don't think he could make it, speed wise, as a wide receiver. I'd rather just keep him at quarterback and develop him into what we originally wanted to than change our plans... but that's just me.

 

anyone know what his 40 time was?

 

I don't know what his clock time is but i assure you he can run a 4.4

But no, he's fine where he is. If anything, we need to get him on the field more in the wildcat so we can put another weapon on the field for the defense to think about. This isn't the year where we're gonna show everything we have with White, but next year, i think teams are going to be incredibly frustrated by White.

having to gameplan all week long for our wildcat as it is must be annoying for opposing coaches. Imagine having to prepare for the wildcat, our basic offense with Henne, and then everything we can do with White on top of that.

Yes, we use a better wr corp. But with our style of play, it's not a necessity.

 

I've been wanting/expecting this since the minute his name was announced as our pick.

My biggest problem with White is how he is used and the FO's persistence to use him as a "QB only"....

He didn't make a name for himself throwing passes.....he did it with his feet in the open field.

I want some value out of that pick. Try him as a return man, receiver, scat back whatever....but quit with this ridiculous notion that he's ever going to be an NFL QB.

He wasn't a highly rated QB in the draft.......he was a highly rated "play maker". So let's see it

 

he must be like ginn then. fast but not quick. because so far i havent seen 4.4 speed

 

I'm trying to remember what I've seen......not much to this point. I remember a couple of plays for losses:confused2:

 

Is Turner that bad? LOL

Pat White is definitely not a 4.4 speed guy. He is not very fast. I'd peg him at 4.6.

Edit-He ran a 4.55 at the Combine.

 

A 4.55 official time was a very good time at the combine this year. Most times were a bit slower I believe. I also believe he ran one under 4.5 "unofficially."

Brian Hartline's official time was 4.58, for some perspective. Jeremy Maclin's official time was 4.48. Vontae Davis ran a 4.49 officially, and we all saw his speed on his touchdown saving tackle on the kickoff return last week. Pat White is fast.

 

Not sure if he can catch but that kid is electrifying in the open field.......which is why we need to figure out a way to get him there with the ball in hands.

 

Yes but all those guys outweigh Pat White. If Pat White was around 6'2 200+ I'd be impressed but if you think he is going to kill defenses like Vick was then your sadly mistaken. Besides Ive never seen Pat White even play WR I doubt we could even plug him in at WR this year. Also the FO said they drafted Pat White as a QB so....

 

If they did draft him as a "QB only"......then that was a total waste of a high 2nd round pick. I can't for the life of me see how they could justify taking him as a QB prospect at #44 over all.

 

Well thats what they said. "We drafted Pat White as a QB". When Miami worked out Pat White it was strictly as a QB.

I'm going to assume we go QB in the 2nd round for the 4th straight year.

 

Not really sure who posted it, but I think as fans we are in somewhat of a panic mode. Some of the issue is our belief that Ted Ginn would blossom this year into a solid WR. That has not yet happened. I would leave Pat White as a QB and continue to develop him there. I believe that he was brought in to be a play maker in the Wildcat and I would let him focus on that area. We all saw what happened when Jason Allen kept moving back and forth between positions, it was not very pretty. Lets hope some of our other young wide receivers begin to take up the slack and develop their talent.

 

I doubt White could ever be a playmaker out of the wildcat.

He isn't a bigger threat running the football than Brown or Ricky. When its a passing play its really not the WC. The fact is defenses will play pass when White is in because he wont hurt you with his legs.

 

we should of had him practice there from day one

 

Emphatically no. You don't mess with his development out of a sense of panic. If you switched him now he probably wouldn't make any impact either without the kind of practice reps you get in camp.

 

I could see him playing a Jim Jenson type roll

 

Why not try him at PR/KR?

Personally, I wouldn't worry about messing with his development, because I just don't think he'll ever make the transition to QB at the pro level anyway. Besides, I say Henne is our QB of the future. Frankly, I wasn't happy with the White pick on draft day, and even less so now. So, I say put him where you need help the most...PR/KR.

As far as WR goes...we gotta see what we have in Turner. Hopefully, we will all get a glimpse this Sunday.

Go Phins!

 

we should send him and ginn to "finallyfast.com"!! are your first and second round picks running a lil sluggish? do they not seem as fast as when you first scouted them? then take them to finallyfast .com!!

on a serious note i wouldn't mind seeing pat in ricky's motion position or set up in the position we use our base qb in during the wildcat(penny at the top) and throwing a quick slant to him/him passing the ball. it still irk's me that we couldve used that second to draft a guy that would be seeing alot more of the field than one or two plays a game. i think the fo planned to use him more if they trade ronnie liike they've been trying but if they don't we used a 2 on a back-up wildcat qb/back-up base qb.

 

I've already chalked him up as a wasted pick, especially now that we have Thigpen. Pat unfortunately brings nothing unique to the table anymore

 

we haven't seen seen pat white run in the open field. The problem with how we're currently using white is that every time hes one the field, its so obvious what we're gonna do with him.

We've let him throw one pass and thats it. Since then its been all hand offs and qb dives up the middle. We cant judge anything from that.

 

Yeah, that is about the gist of it. A rookie quarterback should be showing a lot more than White has been to this point. Quarterbacks who are brought along slowly are clearly losers, and furthermore White has no pedigree at all for what they are asking of him.

 

It affected Jason Allen for life:shifty:

 

Its hard to say that is it. He could have been a bad player regardless.

 

I think we need to get some value out of White, but I don't know if he's WR material. Folks here are down on Ginn for drops, why should we expect a player who has zero experience at WR to have sure hands and be in the right spot for Henne? If we were going to try White somewhere other than QB, I would think returns would be the next likely spot.

 

The problem with Pat White, is that he WANTS to be a QB. In one of the pressers after the draft (god knows I'll never be able to find it now), he said that was one of the main reasons he was interested in Miami, was because of the fact that they wanted him to be a QB.

The only way I could see us making good use of him is if he becomes a Patrick Cobbs to some effect. He can play Receiver, he can play QB, and when he comes on the field you don't know which position he'll be playing. Those highly inaccurate balls though are really making it hard to make any sort of case for him being a passer, ever. I mean heck, Ronnie Brown is throwing better than him from what I've seen

 

Any reps given to White at WR are reps that could be going to Turner and Hartline. I think White is fine where he is.

 

:lol: That's wrong. Pat White weighs more than Hartline, one pound less than Maclin, and only 6 pounds less that Davis. So I guess you should be impressed? He's 6'0 197. I never said he would be like Vick, because he won't. That doesn't mean he isn't fast.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/pat-white?id=71511
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/brian-hartline?id=81831
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jeremy-maclin?id=80429
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/vontae-davis?id=79901

 

We should teach him how to pitch the damn ball to Ronnie when he's running the option!

 

now that sir-drops-alot is down to second team,practice squad reps i say why not. hartlines getting his reps with the first team and obviously turner is not showing enough when givien the reps to even smell the field even with ginn being ginn.i say whynot.we don't have to give the entire first team reps to him..even just giving him a few practice squad reps at reciever to take a look see can't hurt.

 

my expectation is to see the real debut of Pat White in the WildCat against the jests

 

funny you mention that " a rookie QB should be showing more"... when pat white has already used more then henne was in his rookie season.

and i dont expect to see anything from him at receiver. you never know. all the little things that receivers do wrong, a former QB might do correctly.


as far as a new receiver.... id rather see ginn tried at corner back and sean smith tried at receiver. we all know smith has great hands and ginna has bad hands. ginn can chase down almost anybody. if he could cover people HALF as well as sean smith, then it might be worthwhile to move them around. but i wouldn't go pushing for that kind of transition in the middle of the season.

 

While I'd like to see that, the Jets aren't enough of a concern for us that we need to do that, we need to save that for the Pats. We were able to run the Jets over even with Jenkins in, and now that Jenkins is out, we'll have that much easier of a time.

If things get hairy, I say maybe throw in some Pat White trickery, but we're going to need an ace in the hole going against the Pats, who are consistently getting better as the year goes on.

 

I wasn't actually serious about any point in that post

 

I think we'll see Thigpen used as a WR before we see White as a WR. JMO