This was written on Tuesday. They predicted he was a round 2 guy for the right team. They mention the Pats - maybe with all those picks in round 2, Ireland thought Pats would pick him up. Still seems a reach. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/04/21/pat.white/index.html
Yeah, I 'm not nearly as upset as some here are. In fact I think the emotion I was/am feeling is shock, not disappointment. It's not the same feeling as when we drafted Ginn. That was complete anger and bitterness.
I think there will be alot of crow eating around here with all the poster poo-pooing this draft so far.
I don't judge a draft when it happens as much as I draft it a few years down the road. Much like presidency only cooler.
I'm still torn on this pick, on one side he is a freakish athlete who can play QB/WR/PR maybe DB. He'd make the Wildcat dangerous, but on the other side he is a luxury pick who is adament about playing QB, Both Jaws and Mayock love him as a QB. He wont be used as such outside of the Wildcat.
His 6ft tall, 200 pounds, runs a 4.55 and has some good athleticism. I keep reading "freakish" athlete and don't exactly understand what people are talking about.... Larry Fitz is a freakish athlete. Calvin Johnson is a freakish athlete. Ray Lewis is a freakish athlete. What exactly makes White freakish?
He plays quite a bit faster than that. He runs more like a 4.4ish time when you watch him on video. He really takes off once in the open. He'll play Wildcat for now, we'll see how much more he can do after that. By the way expect a tight end with this next pick.
It all depends on your idea of "freakish". If I were to borrow from your terminology I would say that Fitzgerald and Johnson are "freakish" WRs or that Ray Lewis is/was a freakish LB. Difference being Pat White's role is less defined because of his versatility. That he can play several positions is clearly defined, however. The same can't be said about the football players that you mentioned. So to me when White is referred to as a "freakish" athlete it's because he can do a lot of things and do them well. C'mon let's be fair. There's much more to the guy than his height, weight and 40 time. I'm up in the air concerning the pick myself, but I do believe in giving the devil his due, so to speak.
From what I've read, Pat White has been tremendously humble, and has said he'll do whatever is asked of him, including a role in the Wildcat, as a WR, or as a returner. He's just grateful to be able to play. Can you show me where he is quoted as being 'adamant about playing QB'? I haven't seen it.
We all need to chill out just a bit, Parcels knows what he is doing. Many of us had questions last year, but Bill drafted and signed Fa that turned a 1-15 team into an 11.5 team in a year. I have trust in Bill, he didn't draft this guy just so he would standing around doing nothing, as a matter of fact Ginn should be nervous.
i think the ONLY thing people really questioned about last years draft was the 2 RBs....and where are they?
Yeah all I've ever read was that he sees himself as a QB, however he will line up wherever he's asked to.
i think he's freakish b/c he only has one speed, (high speed) from the moment he takes off to the moment he scores. some people start off slow and get faster and faster until they reach their peak speed, pat white is always at peak speed and he makes nice cuts. not to mention that he can play several positions and add a legit passing threat to the wildcat. all that = freakish.
Myself I wouldn't use that same terminology for any of the above mentioned. As I said I only borrowed from your use of the word. But yes, that's what I take it to mean. I can only speculate when it comes to what someone else is thinking when they call White a "freakish athlete". However, I think it's fair to say that they must have a thought process behind their words.
That article got me all jizzed up for the pick now! I didnt know he lead the NCAA with rushing yards as a QB! and the Only player to QB and win 4 Bowl games, also that at the combine he was the best QB out there... Looks to me like if he can play some real QB we will have a Major wildcat offense and a super fun team to watch!!!! As for the Stewart comparrisons forget it White outdoes him by a mile, Faster, Better arm and a real 4 year starter as a QB! Not a gimmick.. In the Wildcat I could see him lined up as a reciever drop back and pass the ball deep (because hes a QB)
He threw for 4000 yards and ran for 4000 yards in WVU. He is the only starting QB to go to a bowl game and win ALL 4 seasons. What an exciting player! When I watched him play, I was chatting with a friend of mine and told him how well he would fit our Wildcat offense. I told him that we will draft him, and he didn't believe it. I nearly fell out of my bed when I saw his name appear when we made the pick. Let's just say I called my friend right away when I saw that.
i think hes the only QB to WIN 4 bowl games. cuz im pretty sure there have been others. i think philip rivers was an MVP of 4 bowl games, but only won 3 of them.
(On if he thinks he will be utilized primarily as a wide receiver or quarterback, and at which position he worked out most) "I can play multiple positions, so I'll see where I end up. I'm ready for anything." (On if he wants to play quarterback in the NFL) "I just want the opportunity to play, and now that I have it, I will do what the coaches ask me to do." Pat White Q&A Doesn't sound very adamant to me...
pat white was a reach to me, but im not going to hold it against him. pat white is a great person. ive followed WV a lot. hes a good kid definitely.
Reach or not, I love the pick. Do I like the fact we have taken a "QB" 3 years in a row in the 2nd round? NO! However, this one is different. He will be able to be a Randell-El type at WR. He won't be a game changer, but you will have to account for him on the field. Especially with reverses and the quick slants. However, the wrinkle he brings to the Wildcat is where the true value in the pick is held. Now he can come in and run, hand it off, or pass the ball from the Wildcat formation. Last year we threw the ball 2 times, maybe 3, out of the formation. 1 was for a TD, but that was it. The threat to throw with Ronnie never existed. Aggressive D's, like the Ravens, could load up to stop the run because they knew we would not pass the ball from that formation. Now that all changes. Pat White can not only throw the ball...but he can throw the deep ball well. Is he our future at QB? Who knows. Can he be very productive right off the bat getting 10 touches a game in the Wildcat formation? You better believe it and that is what you expect from a 2nd round pick....production!
He has "freakish" ability in short space. There are certain aspects to a player's game that one cannot measure with a tape or stopwatch. Short area quickness and cutting ability are one of them. You either have it or you don't. And once you see someone with it, you can't deny it. White has that sort of ability. He's no Barry Sanders, but combine an arm with that kind of burst and you've got something quite dangerous. I wasn't crazy about the White pick myself. Would never have done it myself. But, that's why I'm typing and Parcells/Ireland are picking. Although I do have a sneaking suspicion I'll feel differently about that pick in September.
I liked this draft. We got players that were needed. They just need to pan out... White (as I said before) will either be a great pick or a bust. No he's alright or any of that. He is a player that you can put in as a WR to start and move him around and see where his talents let him fit best. They picked him up because he's a gamer and they hope to use him...somewhere... as they see him as someone with exceptional talent to play a position...just don't know what it is yet. Anyone remember Scott Frost? Parcells grabbed him as a QB in the 3rd round and turned him into a career DB. That's why I wasn't surprised to see this from him. I see something similiar here although I am leaning towards WR for White. I just hope that he is better than what Frost turned out to be.
His combine and Senior Bowl showed his QB skills. He also has awesome tenacity. I think he has a shot at beating Henne.
to get drafted where he got drafted, mid 2nd....they must really like him and have a plan in place. I'm already pumped for the season!
We got strong, physical, athletic skill position players, for the offense, and the defense.The the addition of pat white is simply sublime. To the ' Wildcat... and Beyooooooooond".. Vontae Davis, Pat white, Derek Wake, Sean Smith, Patrick Turner, Chris Clemons..Theres alotta talent, strength, and size in that group..great draft imo.
