SI.com: The Case for Adam Gase
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2015 has been a 180-degree turnaround. Cutler has zero games with multiple interceptions—of the 26 quarterbacks who have made at least 10 starts, he’s the only one who can say that—and has lost the ball only 13 times (eight interceptions, five lost fumbles) in 14 starts. His passer rating of 92.8 is a career-high, despite his intended top four targets combining to miss 31 games this season due to injury. Cutler’s improved play can be traced back to a new play-caller in Chicago, a man who is about to become a hot commodity on the head-coaching market.
Adam Gase, the Bears’ offensive coordinator, has aced the Jay Cutler reclamation project, building an offensive system that keeps the quarterback in check with good coaching and smart play-calling; by doing that, he’s expanded his coordinator résumé beyond Peyton Manning, the future Hall of Famer many assume operates as his own OC.
adamprez2003forum_veterani wouldnt be angry if we hired the guy but he isnt in my top three. i want someone a bit more grizzled and with more experience. i am leaning towards former failed coaches if they say the right things in interviews, mainly what went wrong and what would you do differently today
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Reporter: "Why did you fire Coach Gase?"
Ross: "Because he wants to win now"
"adamprez2003 wrote:
i wouldnt be angry if we hired the guy but he isnt in my top three. i want someone a bit more grizzled and with more experience. i am leaning towards former failed coaches if they say the right things in interviews, mainly what went wrong and what would you do differently today
We need a guy who can call plays and get the best out of Tannehill, Gase seems to fit the bill. Then get a top notch player personnel guy (Tom Gamble would have been nice) and Tannenbaum could take over Aponte's responsibilities with CBA and contracts as far as I care. Show Aponte the door, too much infighting and political bs.
Ronnie Bassluxury_box"jim1 wrote:
We need a guy who can call plays and get the best out of Tannehill, Gase seems to fit the bill. Then get a top notch player personnel guy (Tom Gamble would have been nice) and Tannenbaum could take over Aponte's responsibilities with CBA and contracts as far as I care. Show Aponte the door, too much infighting and political bs.
From what I have read she has done excellent jobs with our cap, a job that people underrate greatly. Have I missed stories that she is too much to handle in the FO?
"Ronnie Bass wrote:
From what I have read she has done excellent jobs with our cap, a job that people underrate greatly. Have I missed stories that she is too much to handle in the FO?
Once a subordinate to Jeff Ireland, Aponte wrested free of his control and became an ally of Philbin’s and a confidante to Ross. During the 2013 season, the Miami Herald reported that Aponte relayed Ireland’s criticism of the coaching staff and play-calling back to Philbin, widening the divide between coach and general manager.
When Ross embarked on a fact-finding mission after the end of the season, Ireland wound up losing his job. Aponte and Philbin survived.
Some around the league are not surprised. They believe she played a similar role in the Browns’ dismissal of George Kokinis less than a year into his time as Cleveland's general manager. Aponte was the Browns’ vice president of football administration at the time, and an ally of then-coach Eric Mangini, who, like Philbin, won that internal power struggle. A source familiar with the situation in Cleveland said Aponte “can’t be trusted.”
Although that’s just one side of the story, it was repeated more than once in Mobile this week, where league power brokers met for the annual Senior Bowl. Farmer was there, too, and so it would not be at all surprising if he heard the same criticism.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article1959576.html#storylink=cpy
miamironforum_veteran"Ronnie Bass wrote:
From what I have read she has done excellent jobs with our cap, a job that people underrate greatly. Have I missed stories that she is too much to handle in the FO?
$28.8 million in dead money this season
Philip Wheeler $2.8 million in dead money in 2016
Ronnie Bassluxury_box"jim1 wrote:
Once a subordinate to Jeff Ireland, Aponte wrested free of his control and became an ally of Philbin’s and a confidante to Ross. During the 2013 season, the Miami Herald reported that Aponte relayed Ireland’s criticism of the coaching staff and play-calling back to Philbin, widening the divide between coach and general manager.
When Ross embarked on a fact-finding mission after the end of the season, Ireland wound up losing his job. Aponte and Philbin survived.
Some around the league are not surprised. They believe she played a similar role in the Browns’ dismissal of George Kokinis less than a year into his time as Cleveland's general manager. Aponte was the Browns’ vice president of football administration at the time, and an ally of then-coach Eric Mangini, who, like Philbin, won that internal power struggle. A source familiar with the situation in Cleveland said Aponte “can’t be trusted.”
Although that’s just one side of the story, it was repeated more than once in Mobile this week, where league power brokers met for the annual Senior Bowl. Farmer was there, too, and so it would not be at all surprising if he heard the same criticism.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article1959576.html#storylink=cpy
And if she was a man we would probably not hear a peep about it. Every place I have ever worked had politics.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"miamiron wrote:
$28.8 million in dead money this season
Philip Wheeler $2.8 million in dead money in 2016
Still was able to make a free agency splash this season.
She didn't choose all those players. She got them at the market value of free agency at the time. Could have been a lot worse.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Ronnie Bassluxury_box"miamiron wrote:
$28.8 million in dead money this season
Philip Wheeler $2.8 million in dead money in 2016
Wow, did not know it had gotten that bad, here is a link putting us at #1 on the list of salary cap problems.
Serpico Jonesforum_veteranJeff Darlington made it seem like Dawn Aponte was going to be fired this morning on NFL network.
Ronnie Bassluxury_box"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
Still was able to make a free agency splash this season.
She didn't choose all those players. She got them at the market value of free agency at the time. Could have been a lot worse.
That's the thing, imagine Ireland doing the cap management himself, it probably would have been MUCH more. It's really hard to measure how much it's on her or how much she has really saved us.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"Serpico Jones wrote:
Jeff Darlington made it seem like Dawn Aponte was going to be fired this morning on NFL network.
It is possible. Her job is redundant with Tannebaum.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
Unlucky 13subscriber"Ronnie Bass wrote:
Wow, did not know it had gotten that bad, here is a link putting us at #1 on the list of salary cap problems.
I can't figure out how to make the pop up window on that site go away in order to read the article, but we aren't in the bad shape that some in the media are making us out to be. Between the 10 million we're carrying over from this year and the easy cuts we'll make soon, having a net of 30+ in cap room will be simple, and we could have more. I don't think we'll go hog wild in spending, but we should be able to resign a few guys and add a few as well, and still be in good shape come 2017.
jdang307subscriber"Ronnie Bass wrote:
And if she was a man we would probably not hear a peep about it. Every place I have ever worked had politics.
Every place you worked has had politics, and this is part of it. So why are you questioning why she would be on the outs, if you know, every work place has politics?
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
I can't figure out how to make the pop up window on that site go away in order to read the article, but we aren't in the bad shape that some in the media are making us out to be. Between the 10 million we're carrying over from this year and the easy cuts we'll make soon, having a net of 30+ in cap room will be simple, and we could have more. I don't think we'll go hog wild in spending, but we should be able to resign a few guys and add a few as well, and still be in good shape come 2017.
That link doesn't provide much info. All it says about us is this:
"The Dolphins are currently projected to be nearly $20 million over the salary cap in 2016. The league will almost surely raise the cap next year, but even that won’t be enough to relieve the Dolphins of their salary cap issues. To make matters worse, Miami still has to come up with the money to give defensive end Olivier Vernon a contract extension. The most likely candidate for a contract restructure is defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, who is scheduled to have a cap hit of $28.6 million in 2016. After re-working Suh’s deal, the next most likely options for Miami would be to cut ties with defensive end Dion Jordan and restructure the contracts of cornerback Brent Grimes and punter Brandon Fields."
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Anyway, you're basically right about having enough cap space if you look at the guys we're likely to cut or restructure:
http://overthecap.com/calculator/miami-dolphins/
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"cbrad wrote:
That link doesn't provide much info. All it says about us is this:
"The Dolphins are currently projected to be nearly $20 million over the salary cap in 2016. The league will almost surely raise the cap next year, but even that won’t be enough to relieve the Dolphins of their salary cap issues. To make matters worse, Miami still has to come up with the money to give defensive end Olivier Vernon a contract extension. The most likely candidate for a contract restructure is defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, who is scheduled to have a cap hit of $28.6 million in 2016. After re-working Suh’s deal, the next most likely options for Miami would be to cut ties with defensive end Dion Jordan and restructure the contracts of cornerback Brent Grimes and punter Brandon Fields."
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Anyway, you're basically right about having enough cap space if you look at the guys we're likely to cut or restructure:
http://overthecap.com/calculator/miami-dolphins/
$13 million of that is Quinton Coples and Dion Jordan.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty
From the beginning of the year. Gase was #1. CK's timeline on Twitter. Interesting read
Fin Dforum_veteran"jdang307 wrote:
Every place you worked has had politics, and this is part of it. So why are you questioning why she would be on the outs, if you know, every work place has politics?
He explained why in the first sentence of that post.
invidsubscriberAdam Gase is being interviewed on Thursday according to NFLN. Couldn't tell if they meant this Thursday or next, but it would make more sense if it was this week. Also keep in mind he was almost hired for the 49ers vacancy last year but remained with Jason Fox after not being able to bring in his own defensive coordinator.
texanphinaticforum_veteran"Canad-phin wrote:
From the beginning of the year. Gase was #1. CK's timeline on Twitter. Interesting read
Oh god Kevin Sumlin bleh.
I think Gase has a decent shot, but for our franchise we need experienced leadership. Like Adam said above, interview failed coaches and see how much soul-searching they did and what they will be doing to improve. Hire the one with the best answers.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteranAdam Gase? Jay Cutler? Chicago Bears?
Really guys? If this isn't a REACH I don't know what is.
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
Unlucky 13subscriber"The_Dark_Knight wrote:
Adam Gase? Jay Cutler? Chicago Bears?
Really guys? If this isn't a REACH I don't know what is.
You....dislike that he helped Cutler have perhaps the best season of his career, despite losing Brandon Marshal, and only having Alshon Jeffery for 9 games, Eddie Royal for 9, and Martellus Bennett for 11? Cutler was throwing to guys many people had never heard of for a lot of the year, and still had his best season rating of his career, and dropped from throwing 18 picks to 11, while simultaniously improving his YPA from 6.8 to 7.6.
Plus the Bears were the #11 rushing team in the league and had the 6th most carries, while we ran the ball the fewest times in the NFL this season.
I don't see how anyone could hold the Bears season against Gase.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteranLook, perhaps as a position coach, but as a head coach? Enough of the experiments guys.
Philbin, Sparano, Cameron...even Saban for that matter. Enough of the science experiments already!
The last time we had any credibility was when Wannstadt was our HC and I freaking HATED him
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
Rick 1966forum_veteranI really am not high on the idea of hiring a position coach from a team with a losing record.
"The_Dark_Knight wrote:
Look, perhaps as a position coach, but as a head coach? Enough of the experiments guys.
Philbin, Sparano, Cameron...even Saban for that matter. Enough of the science experiments already!
The last time we had any credibility was when Wannstadt was our HC and I freaking HATED him
How did Wannstedt bring us any credibilty?
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