I am frustrated as everyone else and I call them like I see them... We do not have a better than average ILB. Our middle linebackers are too big and bulky to be anything but a liability in coverage. Arizona proved that last year and Peyton further proved that.
THEE biggest heart of a defense and one of THEE best ILB to ever play the game is out there FA! Zach Thomas could outplay Channing or Akin in HIS SLEEP! Even if he wouldn't be ideal to cover these big Tight Ends he would have people in position to AT THE VERY LEAST stop the guy!
Even if it was a role-player position he would be better than what we have! Anyone remember the year he had in the Nick Saban 3-4? Yeah, it was his biggest year tackle wise. He is 35, not 65.... He is 5'10"-11, not 5'6"! To think that Parcells and co. would deny him purely based on size is assinine!
I know he has some concussion issues but he is a baller and would give 100% on every play and be a SIZABLE upgrade that would strengthen the entire Defense...
I honestly believe Parcells had a grudge against him from the Jets and Patriots. Why? Don't know? Maybe it was all the talk of him dominating the league at the time or whatever.
And there is a little anymosity from Zach's side too being a true-Dolphin who bled aqua and orange and saw Parcells come into town...
I'm not even sure how JT would feel about it but I do know it would be good for the team.
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C'mon man, as much as we all love Zach, you have to admit he was a liability in coverage.BuckeyeKing, SCall13 and miamiron like this. -
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Really? I'm talking about the Zach Thomas with 17 Interceptions and 4 TD's, who are you talking about? Oh and 30 passes defensed... I can recall atleast a couple being against Peyton as well. And one specifically I recall against the old TE, can't remember his name.
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ZT could sit at home for 3 years, completely removed from football and still be a HUGE improvement over anybody we have.
Derrick Brooks is still out there as well, but I think its only a matter of time till he signs with the CheatriotsBig Red, dolphindebby and HULKFish like this. -
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At this point Zach is a run stuffer. Stopping the run isn't our problem.
Zach hasn't played in our scheme. He's not just going to come in and know the entire defense, be able to make all the calls, etc. Plus he's coming off a preseason injury that kept him out the entire time.
And I don't know how well 5-9 Zach would help us against those 6-5 tight ends right now anyway.
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put away the madden, this is the nfl. Sign an over the hill player because he "used" to be good? and I would remind you that Zach was an intregal part of the defenses that fourth quarter folded year after year just like last sunday. I love the guy, but he isn't ANY kind of answer.. I would one star this if I could.
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I love me some Zach, but to think he'd be an improvement is just crazy -
No need to make this testy. I think we can respectfully disagree and have a conversation. :)
Zach was a part of those teams that fell apart. But that starts at the top IMO. Zach made plenty of clutch plays in his career.
There's no personal grudge between the two IMO. Parcells told him man-to-man that he had to release him because he was 35. Zach talked about it then. His salary and being 225 pounds probably played a part as well. -
I still say he couldn't possibly be worse than what we already have.
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I agree with Hulk's original premise of signing Zach to the team, just not in the capacity he presented. ZT should most definitely be part of this organization, but as a coach, not a player.
I'd sign him to a contract and then name him assistant LB coach. And then I would stick all of our LBs in a room with him and study film of how to stop Darren Sproles in the flats, like Ray Lewis did last week.
His days of usefulness as a player are long gone. But he's a smart, intelligent guy and surely has something to offer in the coaching ranks.Disnardo, siciliansith, The Aqua Crush and 2 others like this. -
We need younger, faster linebackers that can cover RBs and TEs not over the hill, slower as molases players.
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we discussed ad nauseum in the offseason the need to upgrade ILB ... as Crowder was average to slightly above ... and we had nothing to go along with him.
we don't have an answer, and our pass rush is not good enough to offset the liability.
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Well, Odell Thurman is playing in the UFL, if he is healthy he was a good ILB in Cincy, of course that may have been the booze and coke doing the playing.
The UFL's season ends in November, if we are looking for a player or two it would not be a terrible place to start. -
after how the defense played you can be sure of adjustments
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Yeah... Just like the last time Zach played SD and pulled a ball right from Gates hands! Let's see anyone on this roster do that! Or the couple interceptions on Brees/Rivers. Man, you guys have a short memory! Zach a step-slow is still better than any ILB on the roster. I'm gonna post some pics to jolt your memory. Zach would have had a great position in Dallas but Wade was too ignorant to use him right... Bobby Carpentar, LOL!
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But I love Zach as much as I do JT and to see him back in our uni would be a dream come true.
But, after saying that, I know it's unrealistic for him to come home and play. I never want him injured again.
The thought of him waiting on a call from a team is just something I find hard to imagine. I don't imagine Zach thinks he's done, he's too much of a ball player, so it's got to be hard on him. -
Crowder and Ayodele are better suited for a zone coverage where they can hold down an area of the field and keep their eyes on the QB. They simply cant turn their back to the Qb and cover anyone. Unfortunately we're playing mostly man coverage. If we had a better FS, we could run more cover 3 and free up a member of the secondary to help with underneath coverage.
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Hate to say it, but ZT was done 2 or 3 years ago for all intents and purposes. Love him, but he wouldn't help us.
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Here's the problem. Brooks can't play special teams. So we would have to cut a guy who can and is currently playing special teams. That's not likely to happen under this regime. Sparano is always talking about how he likes players that can take on different roles and he is constantly trying to get as much out of the active 45 as he can. Brooks would need a few weeks to get up to speed, he is a little small for the triumvirate, and they must not believe that he would start over Crowder or Ayodele. -
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Rey Maualuga and James Laurinaitis were both sitting there at #25.
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Even worse, Brooks is 36 and goes 6-0, 235. That is not ideal for a LB here, much less an inside LB whose job description includes a heavy dose of taking on offensive lineman.
There is zero chance this will happen.Big Red likes this. -
Honestly at this point I think going ILB would have been better than going with Vontae. -
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Patriots-interested-in-Derrick-Brooks.html
The Patriots are interested in Brooks replacing their inside linebacker Jerod Mayo. -
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On the other hand, Ted Ginn has been SOOOOOOO good :pity: -
He was the Gonzo and Dallas Clark of his time...HULKFish likes this. -
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Here's a few reminders to everyone... And again, he sure as hell isn't a Favre or anything.
Yeah, Zach was never a playmaker huh? :up:
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