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So, any interest in Dustin Keller?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rocky Raccoon, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. slickj101

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    Gates is a horrible idea as he's clearly started to go downhill the last few years, has chronic foot problems, and will likely be the most expensive.

    Cook just tore his rotator cuff so at least he should be cheap.
     
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  2. jw3102

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    If he is so good, why would the Jets let him go? Perhaps they know more than you or I do about why they wouldn't want to resign him. If it is totally because of the money he would demand and they can't afford it, I would agree agree with you that he might be a decent signing. If there is any other reason than money, I would rather see the Dolphins look elsewhere for a TE.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Yea. I don't really see the difference between him and Fasano. He's a good tight end but they're similar.
     
  4. Disgustipate

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    But based on what, then? This is pretty much Bennett's only career season with any production whatsoever, and if you can't use that to demonstrate, you're basically talking about theoretical stuff outweighing the actual observable stuff.
     
  5. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Being successful in free agency is basically defined by being able to correctly identify talent that other teams have underestimated or not properly valued. Good players walk all the time.
     
  6. slickj101

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    Fasano is a great blocker but Bennett is superior in every other area imo.

    Watching him run down the field? He's a solid receiver that they use all over the field, especially in the RZ, something we could absolutely use.
     
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  7. Anonymous

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    I disagree. They're similar in pass catching, too. Whether you look at the stats or PFF's gradings, there isn't much difference between them. Signing him would be the same as resigning Fasano. If you want to improve the position I think the only way to do that is through the draft.
     
  8. Disgustipate

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    Bennett is a really good blocker too.

    You're not a better down the field receiver because you run faster. You've got to get open and get the catches.

    I don't even think that Anthony Fasano in practice is actually even really any slower than Bennett.
     
  9. slickj101

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    He's good but I give Fasano the nod bc I've seen him do it longer and more consistently.

    Who said anything about that? He gets open all the time bc he runs clean routes and plays to his size. I never said anything about him being faster than Fasano but he sure runs with a lot more authority and is tougher to tackle.
     
  10. slickj101

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    Not really. His avg reception is about 4 yards longer.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    And for their careers Fasano is a yard better. Like I said, similar.
     
  12. slickj101

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    Moot point since Bennett is only in his 1st year as a featured TE.
     
  13. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    At this point i'm all for any new face we get on offense. If Dustin Keller came here i'd be thrilled. If Antonio Gates could get healthy and give Tannehill the same thing Tony Gonzalez has given Matt Ryan i'd be all for it. There isn't much on the offensive side of the ball that doesn't need to be upgraged. Would be awesome if we came out of free agency with Danario Alexander and Dustin Keller and then turned around and drafted a Justin Rodgers in the first round.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Not really moot. Fasano's career average is the same as Bennet's this season.

    Besides, you can't accurately judge when one has had Romo/Manning in his career and the other has only has Pennington for a season.

    Fasano=Bennet.
     
  15. slickj101

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    lol He played behind Witten and one of the deepest WR cores in the league. Having the great Tony Romo as your QB isn't making up for that.
     
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  16. Anonymous

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    It's better than what Fasano has had.
     
  17. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping we can get OJ McDuffie and Tony Martin back.
     
  18. slickj101

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    And it's still not making up for not being a starter.
     
  19. Ohio Fanatic

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    definitely take Keller. he's not a probowler, but he's an upgrade and a big help for Tannehill. be even better if we had both he and Fasano.
     
  20. invid

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    Da'Rick Rogers or Justin Hunter?

    I'm just going to assume you meant Justin Hunter. Da'Rick can be had probably after Day 1 of the draft.
     
  21. Boik14

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    The jets have a terrible offense because they have a terrible qb not because Dustin Keller is a bad player. Hes a very very good player. When the Jets win it almost directly correlates with Keller being effective as a receiver.

    Hes played some H-back in the pro's and college as well. The offense Philbin comes from had 4-5 rostered in any one year. Theres nothing that says its Keller or Fasano. Or Fasano or Cook. But Keller is a better player then Cook imo.
     
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  22. ToddPhin

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    No, he meant Rogers, and he's got it right.
    If Da'Rick continues maintaining a good head and interviews well, he's a likely 1st rounder. He's one of the few elite talents in this draft, regardless of position.

    It's silly to operate under the belief, "I'm gonna pass on this player I covet b/c maybe everyone else will pass on him, too, and I'll grab him the next round". Chris Johnson & Bruce Irvin come to mind. If you think Rogers is the better player you don't take Hunter.
     
  23. ToddPhin

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    Keller would be a nice fit in this offense..... better than in NY IMO.
     
  24. BuckeyeKing

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    Unlikely. Miami wants guys that can block.
     
  25. gamblerx

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    2013 1st round pick is going to be a guard . . . lol
     
  26. Desides

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    I'm OK with Keller. But I question his fit in this offense. If Michael Egnew can't be active, I don't know why we'd go for Dustin Keller.

    I'd like to bring in Jared Cook. Then either let Fasano walk and activate Egnew, or retain Fasano and let Egnew and Clay battle it out.
     
  27. djphinfan

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    No thanks.
     
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    But can he help this desperately toothless offense?
     
  29. Bpk

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    I like Jared Cook. Yes.y
     
  30. invid

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    I never said any of the latter part of your post. I simply haven't been following him at Tennessee Tech that much other than he's having the type of year there you'd expect from someone that got demoted from the SEC to TTech, but I'll take your point. I'm not in the scouting department, so I don't know how they feel about him, and this roster has more holes than just at WR.

    That's how I came to my conclusion. I like him though.
     
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  31. ToddPhin

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    Gotchya. My apology then. Yeah, the "consensus" has him in the 2nd round at the moment b/c of his history but he's the most talented receiver this draft. Julio Jones clone. Man among boys potential.
     
  32. invid

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    It's cool homie, I ain't even mad atcha.

    Do you really think he is as fast as Julio though? I know he's got decent size at 6'3, but didn't that freak run a 4.3- something or other? I had Rogers at a mid-4.4 early 4.5.

    HELP ME HELP YOU.

    EDIT: Aw ****, did I just start the combine speed with football speed debate again? That's my bad.
     
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  33. ToddPhin

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    Rodgers looks to me to have about the same football speed Julio did at Bama before working heavily on improving it pre-combine. Perhaps he's a fraction of a hair slower. Plays with Julio's same level of extreme physicalness, punishes defenders, is like a runaway truck for DBs to bring down (see clip 2), and can obviously make the acrobatic grab (clip 3) for those wanting to watch it. (keep in mind he's only a sophomore in the 2nd clip)

    I'm not one for highlight clips, but this one serves a purpose.
    Here's a fresh & fast Oregon defense that Rogers cuts through and makes defenders take about 3 bad angles on including getting linebacker, Lokombo (#25), twice. :lol:

    [video=youtube;26UYATqb7ZI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UYATqb7ZI[/video]

    [video=youtube;5BHOXRyDLuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHOXRyDLuw[/video]

    [video=youtube;VMruCW43-Io]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMruCW43-Io[/video]
     
  34. BuckeyeKing

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    More likely a DE or CB.
     
  35. Disgustipate

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    I still don't understand what you're suggesting though. He's not functionally performing the role better than Fasano has, and there's probably not a theoretical untapped potential there either.

    I think this is a grass is greener kind of thing. Fasano and Bennett are about as close in skill and style as you can get between two players in the NFL.
     
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  36. alen1

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    Not much IMO. I'd rather draft one honestly, be it a Jimmy Graham type in Joseph Fauria or an H-back like Phillip Lutzenkirchen.
     
  37. alen1

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    Bennett is a better athlete than given credit for and his artificial numbers (e.g. Combine) indicate.
     
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  38. slickj101

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    He's not? Then why is he averaging 4ypc higher than Fasano?

    Indeed.
     
  39. Disgustipate

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    Because Fasano is basically a short-area safety valve this year. Look at his performance last year... It wasn't pretty, but he was quite good down the field.
     
  40. MikeHoncho

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    No. Trade for Gronk and Jimmy Graham... Easy.
     

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