So Tannenhill's job is on the line?

ugh my bad guys, it is the LaCanfora artice.....

I'm hoping Philbin just wanted to motivate Tannehill to push himself to a higher level.

But then, maybe it's just the truth and it leaked and Philbin either:
a) Knows more about Tannehill's limitations than we do
b) Trusted Sherman too much, and Sherman thought so much of Tannehill he started him at WR in college. not a stretch to think that before being fired, and amidst rumors Tannehill was blaming the play-calling and going rogue that Sherman himself said some things about Tannehill being limited or having deficiencies. Not a stretch to think Philbin believed him too.
c) Has poor judgement
d) Holds a slight grudge against Tannehill because in the situation that got Sherman fired, Philbin fought hard to resist firing him… he likely felt Sherman was being scapegoated and reports of Tannehill's frustration with the playcalling may have made Philbin feel the QB helped bury Sherman (thank God he did, imo). Does Philbin trust Tannehill as a loyal soldier? Remember, this is the coach who didn't seem too keen on keeping a single member of the outspoken leadership council. I don't think Philbin deals well AT ALL with dissent, or outside the lines actions by players.

"Bpk wrote:

I'm hoping Philbin just wanted to motivate Tannehill to push himself to a higher level.

But then, maybe it's just the truth and it leaked and Philbin either:
a) Knows more about Tannehill's limitations than we do
b) Trusted Sherman too much, and Sherman thought so much of Tannehill he started him at WR in college. not a stretch to think that before being fired, and amidst rumors Tannehill was blaming the play-calling and going rogue that Sherman himself said some things about Tannehill being limited or having deficiencies. Not a stretch to think Philbin believed him too.
c) Has poor judgement
d) Holds a slight grudge against Tannehill because in the situation that got Sherman fired, Philbin fought hard to resist firing him… he likely felt Sherman was being scapegoated and reports of Tannehill's frustration with the playcalling may have made Philbin feel the QB helped bury Sherman (thank God he did, imo). Does Philbin trust Tannehill as a loyal soldier? Remember, this is the coach who didn't seem too keen on keeping a single member of the outspoken leadership council. I don't think Philbin deals well AT ALL with dissent, or outside the lines actions by players.

I can see that, however I cant see or get behind a reason to pull RT in favor of MM.....It yet again makes me judge JP and his judgement, it reeks of vendetta to me....Miami knows hell we know what MM brings to the table. The jury is still out on RT at least to me it is anyway...

Philbin is looking for a scape goat, in February.

Should have fired the non de-script ******* when they had the chance.

IF we bench a healthy Ryan Tannehill for one single ****ing snap, in favour of Matt Moore, I'm done with the sport until Philbin is fired.

"unifiedtheory wrote:

Philbin is looking for a scape goat, in February.

Should have fired the non de-script ******* when they had the chance.

IF we bench a healthy Ryan Tannehill for one single ****ing snap, in favour of Matt Moore, I'm done with the sport until Philbin is fired.

You are one awnry ruthless Canadian....

"finyank13 wrote:

You are one awnry ruthless Canadian....

LOL! Well played.

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IF not THEN:

for gods sake it is La Canfora.

No. It's clearly not on the line, it does however make for a better line than coach wants player to step uo.

Honestly....Tannehill's job should be on the line. Any QB who quits thinking that way....will slowly begin to fade. Every QB is just a hit away from the backup coming in, and who knows what happens then.

I think Tannehill will be an amazing QB for us. But he hasnt earned anything yet. I think what LaCon stated was not anything more then the obvious.

Everyone's job is on the line.

And I thought they were pushing him last year by not providing him with an offensive line, what will this year bring?

It's motivation for a QB who CLEARLY needs to continue developing or he very well may be out of a job.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

Everyone's job is on the line.

Lol..yup.

I've come to a conclusion that Philbin & Ross are both idiots.

"Bpk wrote:

I'm hoping Philbin just wanted to motivate Tannehill to push himself to a higher level.

Philbin stated these things in private conversations with the various GM candidates. It has absolutely nothing to do with trying to motivate Tannehill; this stuff wasn't supposed to get out.

"Desides wrote:

Philbin stated these things in private conversations with the various GM candidates. It has absolutely nothing to do with trying to motivate Tannehill; this stuff wasn't supposed to get out.

"slickj101 wrote:

Please explain by what logic Joe Philbin would expect a one on one conversation with a GM candidate about roster direction and planning to get out into the media and back to Ryan Tannehill. I'm all ears.

But hey, it's easier to post a GIF than it is to have to support a position, so I don't expect much from you.

"Desides wrote:

Please explain by what logic Joe Philbin would expect a one on one conversation with a GM candidate about roster direction and planning to get out into the media and back to Ryan Tannehill. I'm all ears.

But hey, it's easier to post a GIF than it is to have to support a position, so I don't expect much from you.

maybe not expect it to get out, but in this day and age he should have known it was a possibility...unless he's just naive, like the owner.

"Desides wrote:

Please explain by what logic Joe Philbin would expect a one on one conversation with a GM candidate about roster direction and planning to get out into the media and back to Ryan Tannehill. I'm all ears.

But hey, it's easier to post a GIF than it is to have to support a position, so I don't expect much from you.

Your position wasn't worth much more than a gif.

I don't chose to believe every silly little tale JLC likes to throw out for hits, but if you do then feel free to waste your time.

The whole premise in your first post is comical. Philbin might be dumb but I sincerely doubt any HC would be dumb enough to do what you're suggesting.

NFL stands for Not For Long

90% of players are a bad few games away from watching the game on the sideline AT BEST

I don't take issue with this. If the team burns a high pick on a QB or brings in a pricey veteran QB to push RT, that's when I'll think there is more than the expected talk when a young QB lays a few eggs to end a disappointing year.

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

What would be satisfactory improvement for him in 2014? Cutting down turnovers, a few more TDs and gettin his YPA over 7. All this can be done simply by hitting a couple more of those deep balls.

2012:

Touchdowns: 12
Total turnovers: 17
YPA: 6.8

2013

Touchdowns: 24
Total turnovers: 22
YPA: 6.7

2014 satisfactory for me would be:

Touchdowns: 28
Total turnovers: 14
YPA: 7.2

Very, very doable.

Really, this coming year, I don't think it's about statistics as much as it is about wins. It's Tannehill's third year. Win 10 or more and playoffs galore! Good statistics will lead to that, but regardless, he's going to need to get us in the dance, or he's going to be questioned. The GM and coaches need to do the best they can to put guys on the field that can play, both offensively and defensively, and Lazor in particular needs to do a good job calling plays and keeping our offense doing things where they're successful.

But in the end, this is going to be the year. I love Tannehill, really like his demeanor, and I think he's got the goods. However, if we aren't in the playoffs by this year, there are going to be a lot of questions. His record will likely still be .500 or lower if we don't make the playoffs, and despite all his physical gifts, he's going to look like a potential journeyman.

As far as this leak... I don't really even care. If we go to Matt Moore, our season will have been sunk prior to that, imo. I don't anticipate that, though. I think Tannehill and the offense will blossom. But that's, of course, dependent on my expectation of having a better line and at least a little better running game. Then, I'm also crossing my fingers Lazor is an upgrade from Sherman. Also, if we're scoring more on offense, there's a good chance we'll being holding the ball longer, which will mean our defense will give up less points on the whole.

We'll have a better feel after FA and the draft as far as O-line projections and our running game. Defense as well. But, yeah, I sort of think this is a make or break season for Tannehill. I definitely think it is for Philbin, and their fates seem tied.