So who is next? On deck for Ross........

"sup3r3lit3 wrote:

Might not call the plays but he is the architect...source is a yahoo article so who knows for sure....I'm sure he wouldn't do any worse than daboll!

could you dig up the yahoo article?

"sup3r3lit3 wrote:

Saban never proved to be a good coach in the NFL only in college. That was not a fantastic hire...he was a failure.

I liked the Johnson hire but he had nothing to prove when he was hired.

Based on coaching abilities and the information this organization had at the time and not having a crystal ball to predict Saban missing college ball the hire was in fact a no brainer.
Saban was well regarded as an NFL success in waiting. His coaching ability is unquestioned. No one knew he'd melt down and miss the college experience.
It was a fantastic hire at the time.

Didn't work out but in no way can you say the organization made a stupid decision with that hire.

Jimmy Johnson had a life changing experience after his dad died that made him question why he spent all the time he does grinding away as a HC in the NFL. Again, good coach, good hire, just failed due to unforseen and weird circumstances.

They should consider Marty Schottenheimer. Seems like he would be compatible with Ireland. Never seen him below .500. If you're gonna play dinosaur football, you might as well get the king.

"Coral Reefer wrote:

Based on coaching abilities and the information this organization had at the time and not having a crystal ball to predict Saban missing college ball the hire was in fact a no brainer.
Saban was well regarded as an NFL success in waiting. His coaching ability is unquestioned. No one knew he'd melt down and miss the college experience.
It was a fantastic hire at the time.

Didn't work out but in no way can you say the organization made a stupid decision with that hire.

I'm not saying it was a stupid decision (that was Cam). I'm saying that with benefit of hindsight, fans shouldn't be thinking just because it's a name or somebody who is supposed to be good that the person should be trusted before he has proven himself. That was my premise.

"Jimmy James wrote:

Give me a coach who isn't a name, who isn't a genius, who isn't even the best choice on paper, as long as he will WIN US SOME ****ING GAMES.

Whether a coach has a name or not isn't the issue.
If he's a good coach that is well known then it would be a good hire.
Success can come from either side. New up and coming coach or a tenured successful coach.
The key isn't ignoring known and talented coaches for unknown ones.

As far as "I don't want a genious"......
You don't want a smart coach either?
I'll take that quality in my coach thanks.

I said I don't necessarily want a genius. That is, I'm not worried about the Dolphins hiring somebody regarded as a genius. I want for once a solid coach who wins. Billick was regarded widely as a genius. He worked out for the Ravens in that he brought them a title. That's great. Rick Pitino was widely regarded as a genius in basketball, and he didn't work out at all for the Celtics.

Yes, I want a smart coach. I'd still take the dumbest head coach in the NFL if it meant winning.

"Coral Reefer wrote:

Based on coaching abilities and the information this organization had at the time and not having a crystal ball to predict Saban missing college ball the hire was in fact a no brainer.
Saban was well regarded as an NFL success in waiting. His coaching ability is unquestioned. No one knew he'd melt down and miss the college experience.
It was a fantastic hire at the time.

Didn't work out but in no way can you say the organization made a stupid decision with that hire.

Jimmy Johnson had a life changing experience after his dad died that made him question why he spent all the time he does grinding away as a HC in the NFL. Again, good coach, good hire, just failed due to unforseen and weird circumstances.

U still can't say it was a fantastic hire. What makes it fantastic? that he failed as a coach and GM? That he lost the respect of the team when he walked over a player that had collapsed because of the heat and he didn't know what to do about it? What was fantastic? he failed.....u could say it was a "good try" of a hire because he is/was a successful college coach. But in no way was it fantastic...turned out really not so good I think others here would agree.

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

could you dig up the yahoo article?

Here u go:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/5/2685704/packers-joe-philbin-dolphins-head-coach

"The Dolphins are said to be extremely high on Jeff Fisher but in case that falls through, Philbin could be the first of a few candidates for a back-up plan. Philbin has been the architect of the offense that won last year's Super Bowl and led the Packers to a 15-1 season."

"sup3r3lit3 wrote:

Here u go:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/5/2685704/packers-joe-philbin-dolphins-head-coach

"The Dolphins are said to be extremely high on Jeff Fisher but in case that falls through, Philbin could be the first of a few candidates for a back-up plan. Philbin has been the architect of the offense that won last year's Super Bowl and led the Packers to a 15-1 season."

That just means some reporter wanted to use the word architect, not that he is in fact the architect of that offense.

"Jimmy James wrote:

That just means some reporter wanted to use the word architect, not that he is in fact the architect of that offense.

Agreed. I did say, "so who knows"...I'm sure he has plenty of input on the offense. It's a risk like anything else.

I'll be fine with anybody as long as it salvages as much continuity as possible. I think everybody is comfortable with the creativity on offense from Daboll and wants to continue to see the defense grow.

ur on ur way to 10k posts...nj man!

College football is just too different outside the base X's and O's. It makes me very wary of hiring anyone. The players, the environment, the media - everything is different between the college and pro levels and is why a coach can experience good success in one and not the other (IE: Saban).

Unless you have a Harbough type who had firm NFL roots and was not mostly/solely a college level guy, I would pass on them at a HC level. Offensive coordinator? Absolutely yes, but I don't think Chip Kelley would come to the NFL for that.

At this point, Zimmer seems like a solid choice. with maybe keeping Daboll at OC. His offense did seem to do quite well as the season wore on. Aside from Zimmer, I would like to see where Jay Gruden is at - some people say it's to early for him, but lots of people said the same about Tomlin as well.

Problem with daboll is he hasn't helped improve our redzone efficiency enough.

"mommabilly wrote:

The way we are going may as well be this guy.

lol

"texanphinatic wrote:

College football is just to different outside the base X's and O's. It makes me very wary of hiring anyone. The players, the environment, the media - everything is different between the college and pro levels and is why a coach can experience good success in one and not the other (IE: Saban).

Unless you have a Harbough type who had firm NFL roots and was not mostly/solely a college level guy, I would pass on them at a HC level. Offensive coordinator? Absolutely yes, but I don't think Chip Kelley would come to the NFL for that.

At this point, Zimmer seems like a solid choice. with maybe keeping Daboll at OC. His offense did seem to do quite well as the season wore on. Aside from Zimmer, I would like to see where Jay Gruden is at - some people say it's to early for him, but lots of people said the same about Tomlin as well.

Jay Gruden is remaining the OC for the Bengals.

I'm all for Toub, do something different for a change. Either that or this guy Moss that seems to have gotten a good PR man with Salguero

Lets go for the zimmerman, the Zimmerooni, the zimmmeister..

Hey if we hire Dave Toub at least we'll have the best special teams unit in the league! O wait maybe not because we don't have Devin Hester. shoot!

Armando Salguero
Steve Ross: "At the end of the day, we'll find the right that will hopefully be in the Hall of Fame someday."


Comments like this and finding the next Don Shula don't help Ross's cause any.

Someone needs to put a muzzle on him.

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

Armando Salguero
Steve Ross: "At the end of the day, we'll find the right that will hopefully be in the Hall of Fame someday."


Comments like this and finding the next Don Shula don't help Ross's cause any.

Todd Bowles it is!

As a wildly successful billionaire, Ross should know better than to speak publicly regarding things he knows nothing about.
Like anything related to football.

"dcafiero wrote:

I dont get i......OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..

Hah.

in all seriousness though... its probably our best option at this point.... our drafts and free agency grabs must be stellar though.. (right...)

Perhaps you forgot who the Dolphins have selecting players in the draft and in free agency. Ireland has been far from stellar in his first four years as the Dolphins GM. So I have no idea why you would expect him to be anymore then the below average GM he has been during this period. Ireland wouldn't know stellar if it hit him in the face.

At this point maybe we'll get one of Venus or Serena's tennis coaches if we're lucky.