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So, you know, things really aren't that bad

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Trowa, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    So, playoffs are out of the picture at this point barring a miracle. Tony Sparano might be fired as head coach after this season. That may or may not be for the best. We wont know if it will happen till it happens and we wont know how better off we will be for a couple of years. But at this point, when it becomes realistic to start looking towards next season, I think it's important to take inventory of what we have. If we do bring in a new coaching staff, we wont have to rebuild from scratch.

    Chad Henne may not be the answer at QB, but he's certainly better than Cleo Lemon. Ronnie Brown is a guy who was here before this coaching staff who is talented though is contract situation is cloudy, and Lousaka Polite is a pro bowl caliber FB. Davone Bess and Brandon Marshall are two of the better WRs in the league. Does anyone even remember our WRs in 07? Jake Long is an elite LT. Vernon Carey and John Jerry have the ability to be great guards for us. We need to acquire a new RT for sure though.

    Randy Starks, Kendall Langford, and Jared Odrick make up a strong DE rotation and Paul Soliai has finally started playing good football this year. Cameron Wake has become an elite player in the NFL and is a sack monster, he'll be good for years to come. Koa Misi is looking promising as a rookie. Karlos Dansby hasn't exactly set the world on fire this year, but we know what he's capable of. We have a top 10 caliber CB in Vontae Davis and two safeties who have shown some good flashes in Clemons and Jones. Sean Smith and Nolan Carroll aren't bad on the corners either.

    And we even have a good kicker in Carpenter and a good punter in Fields.

    We have talent on this roster, no one can argue that this regime hasn't brought in talent. Now it's only a matter of finding someone who can do something with all this talent. I hope this goes to show you that we're not as far off as it seems, the next coaching staff to take over, they'll have a very strong base to build off of which could mean a quick turnaround.

    So yeah, keep your head up. We're gonna be okay as soon as we get a competent coaching staff in here.
     
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  2. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    not a bash at you, im just sick of moral victories every year...
     
  3. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Our defense has made things a bit easier, because they are outstanding and filled with youth. This unit should be good for a long, long time. that's very exciting for a dude that likes his defense like me. Hiring Mike Nolan was a GREAT move.

    Chad Henne, well, I still believe in him, but he's inconsistent and needs a bit more work and a new offensive coordinator/system to help him because Henning isn't getting it done.

    The big thing we need to fix is the running game. Huge disappointment this year. We need a fast running back that can help out in the pass game.

    Same thing for TE. Fasano is fine but we need a faster guy to go with him.

    I also don't agree with the growing "Fire Sparano" crowd. He's a good coach and the players love to play for him. Unless we collapse in the final 4 weeks I don't think he will be fired.

    Despite being 6-6 we are a team that has a lot of talent...a lot of young talent. Which also explains our inconsistencies. Once these guys get a little more experience we are going to be a real good team. I expect that next season.
     
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  4. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    The defense is young and gonna' get a lot better.
    I was impressed with Paul Soliai today. He is developing into a fine NT.
     
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  5. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    You make some valid points , but Odrick hasn't proved anything as of yet. He may , but nothing as of yet.
     
  6. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yup, I said multiple times today that we better lock him up.
     
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  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i think last year we spent the offseason addressing our defense for the most part maybe to the detriment of the offense. We also had a few young guys ramp up their play as new starters (Wake, Clemons, Soliai) Next year I would like to see us concentrate on offense and hopefully Henne can have the same leap that Clemons or Soliai had
     
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  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    If Sparano is fired why would you assume the new coach would keep the young defense?
     
  9. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think we've got a lot of talent on this team. I think we need better QB play, no matter whom the OC is--although I'd like to see a change there. I also think we MUST be better at catching the football in our secondary. We make some of those plays and our QB doesn't make some of the INTs/along with making a few more throws, we have a much different record.
     
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  10. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    True the hypothetical new regime might cut all the youngsters and try to get old as soon as possible. Come on now. :wink2:
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    The new regime might want to start over with his own style of defense and the players that are currently on the defense do not fit his style.

    It has happened before.
     
  12. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    That's why I want Sparano and Nolan to stay. Henning has to freaking go already. If not I don't know what to think of this team.
     
  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Set us back three more years.... no way in hell. The nucleus is there on defense. Except #52. Bye bye

    This team lacks offense. Easy to see really.

    Need RB, TE, RT, WR, C
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    You are trying to make a complete unknown, known. If Miami does fire Sparano and clean house there is a decent chance that the defense will be blown up. Unless the unit is amazing, there is always a good chance. Miami's defense has potential, however it is not amazing.
     
  15. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but we have a top 5 defense. And it ain't an old one. No way Ross or Ireland allows that to get blown up.
     
  16. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    I'm making a complete unknown known.. Haha you are talking about a fictional new coach blowing up this defense.

    Of course this defense has potential and has been living it up this season. They are young remember. And pretty damn good.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    I am talking about the potential for a new coach to blow up the defense. I am not talking about it like it is a fact. All I am saying it is a possibility. There is no where I said it would happen.

    I am sorry if my posts were confusing.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    Miami would fire Sparano and keep Ireland?

    if Ross doesn't allow it to get blown up then we have a Snyder on our hands.
     
  19. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    he makes a valid point though. If, as many fans have been clamoring for, John Gruden were to get hired, you can almost guarantee we would switch to a 4-3. We would definitely get rid of some of our players if that was the case
     
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  20. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Half the league goes through this every year too. It's 'comforting' to know it isn't just us :up:
     
  21. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    But it's usually a different half. We tend to bounce between mediocrity and suckitude. We haven't been an elite team since the early 90s. Hell, even Kansas City is having their day this season. Even Arizona had a couple years of elite status in the last 10. There is no excuse for the ineptitude shown on a consistent basis by the Dolphins' front office.
     
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  22. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Trowa makes a good point. It's the proverbial look at the glass half full instead of half empty. And, while it may be difficult to do while watching the Patsies and Jests make their playoff push, it is true we are a better team today than just three short years ago.

    Questions will loom large though as the season winds down. Is Sporano the right man to lead this team? Is Henne the right trigger man at the helm? How much better would this team be with an upgrade at OC, not to mention several key positions on the field? I mean, think about it...we could be just one more off season away from being elite. Or, we could be in rebuild mode under a new regime.

    I think these last four games will play a huge part in the future of this franchise.
     
  23. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    And a worse team than we were just two short years ago.
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Are you serious?? We are MUCH better now then we were then. We went 11-5 because we had a veteran QB, brought out the wildcat and had a very easy schedule. Look at our talent now. We are really young and have a ton of talent.
     
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  25. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No things aren't that bad... I'm going to log out now to go watch our hated rivals play in the biggest game of the year for first place in the division and the conference. I wonder what it would be like to see Miami in a game like that.
     
  26. ATL-Dolfan

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    I kind of hope he doesn't get fired. I mean we will be back to square one. Unless its a big name (Cowher, Gruden, etc, which I don't think they would come to our Phins), its not worth it. They need an OC that is as good as Nolan (DC) and someone to throw the ball. Henne has dissapointed me. I really thought he would be the one. After the Browns game I don't think he is which really sucks.
    We have a good core of players that are young as mentioned by the OP. I say let it grow one more year just give it a little fertilizer (USE MARSHALL AND BROWN more)
     
  27. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Yes, I am serious. You are what your record says you are. We had better QB play, a better running game and, most importantly, we made better coaching decisions.
     
  28. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Hopefully not like it was for the Jets.
     
  29. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    POST OF THE YEAR ! :thumbup:
     
  30. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Unfortunately I think the Jets take out their frustration on us. It might be the most ugly loss all year for us.
     
  31. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    That would be true but only if you choose to neglect every other possible factor in the game of football.
     
  32. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I don't know, it'd be tough to beat the Patriots loss vs us.
     
  33. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yup, I'm sure it has nothing to do with their schedule either or anything.
     
  34. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Rex will have it all going for him in this game. It just has that feeling. That you know what is coming and it isn't pretty. I could be wrong and I hope I am, boy do I wish to be wrong. I want to be wrong, but it has the look of one of those set up games.
     
  35. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    It's the only one that's left standing at the end of the season. It's the only factor that matters in the end. Everything else is just excuses.
     
  36. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    Not at all. You can't ignore other factors like strength of schedule just so you can feel pissed off.
     
  37. djphinfan

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    Personally if Irish does not sign Solaii and Mcd, i will be hugely disappointed.
     
  38. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ill tell you what I know, were at the least going to be 8 and 8 going into next year, bills and lions are must home victories, if not, things will be as bad as we think..we will be looking for a new head coach..
     
  39. Stitches

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    You and me both DJ.
     
  40. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    You play the teams you get scheduled with. Strength of schedule is meaningless in a league where the cellar-dwellers are constantly recylcing upward.
     

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