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Sony Playstion Network down Indefinitely...

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by MonstBlitz, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. #1 fan

    #1 fan Well-Known Member

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    Exhibit A. Geohot's rap lol:

    [video=youtube;9iUvuaChDEg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg[/video]
     
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  2. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    Sorry, lol that is confusing.

    My point was that while Sony may be able to put an asterisk in their TOS, does that make it right? The PS3 is a piece of hardware that was purchase by a customer. This is the same as a TV, a car, a firearm, or a slew of any other things that you could go to the store and buy. How many cars do you know that specify that you can't change the paint color? Or that you can't put bigger rims on? Or that you can put a bigger motor, or leather seats in it? How many firearms limit the owner's ability to put after-market grips on the gun? How many TV's specify whether what brand of Blu-Ray player you can use? Or whether you can use dish or cable. What would the world be like if Dell wouldn't allow it's customer's to put a new OS on their computer? You get what came in the box, when windows upgrades you have to buy a whole new machine. What if Apple didn't let their users upgrade their RAM, or only let certain computers perform photo editing, but if you wanted to edit video you'd have to have a whole different computer.

    So why is Sony trying to tell people that they can't alter their hardware to play home-brew games? Who are they to tell me what I can or can't play on my PS3? Maybe I bought it solely to be a Blu-Ray player and act as a home PC (It was a GREAT deal to do this a few years ago), in which case I have no need for Sony's OS and would be better off installing windows 7 which will let me use it as a DVR and store my digital library. Maybe the hard drive is too small and I wanted to upgrade it, so I put a larger non-sony promoted HD. Maybe I like a 360 controller better, so I installed a program that allowed me to use that with my PS3. Maybe I don't like that the PS3 doesn't charge my controllers when it's off so I charge it through my computer, or through a 3rd party charging station.

    All of those routes have a trade off. If I make it a home-pc I can't play games on it. If I want to home-brew games they'll update the OS and I won't be able to play on PSN. To each his own. It's a piece of hardware, and just because someone puts small print in the TOS doesn't mean they should be able to dictate what the customer does with it. Right now companies are buying Kinect and have no plans on using it to play games. Can MS legally step in and make them stop?.....maybe. But they'd be very foolish to do so. Microsoft's pet project is opening up a whole new world of augmented reality, and they'd be stupid to stand in the way of that. Architects design buildings all the time where the customer comes in, re-arranges the furniture, and finds new ways to use the structure that the architect never envisioned. Stuff evolves, and I hate seeing companies stand in the way of that.

    Up through 2004 the .gif file type was owned by a company called unisys. They could have technically required everyone who ever used a .gif to pay royalties on the image. Have you ever paid a royalty for a .gif? Should you have?
     
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  3. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I knew what you meant, I was just having a little fun.
     
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  4. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, so, that PSN thing. Apparently the plan was “always” to have PSN up by May 31. Hey, it’s a delay within a lie within another lie!

     
  5. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Wow....seriously.....wow....thats 3 more ****ing weekends without psn. This **** is ridiculous.
     
  6. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily. Remember, they announced a phased restart. Some stuff would come online first, then more, then more until the PSN was fully back up.
     
  7. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    i just wanna play games online. i could give a **** less about DLC, playstation store, messaging, etc etc. I just wanna enjoy playing split screen multiplayer on black ops with my wife. We both really enjoyed it...
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Well, this is what Sony’s doing, there’s no way around it. Unless you buy a 360.
     
  9. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Welcome to America and their copyright laws. They suck.

    I contacted the NFL about doing a documentary over fantasy football last fall... it was non-profit and going to be for my documentary class at college. They basically told me to **** off. Now technically I could use a small portion of their footage because of fair use, but I think you get the point... companies are ***** about copyright laws.
     
  10. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Oh, I know. But I can vent here. :lol:
     
  11. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    You should be able to do split screen multiplayer without PSN (or any internet for that matter). :confused:
     
  12. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    against cpu? i havent found it if so. the only one i found was me and wifey vs like 10 people.
     
  13. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Combat training was available locally I thought.
     
  14. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Ill look into it (THANKYOU)
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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  16. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    Ugh no Madden or Mortal Kombat for 3 weeks. **** I might have to start playing Starcraft 2 again.
     
  17. SICK

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    *Turns on mvp baseball 2005 on ps2.



    //fist pump
     
  18. unifiedtheory

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    It's hilarious. After "a few days" and "by the weekend" and then "this week" followed by "by the weekend" this comes out. For him to come out and say "and its plan to restart the services fully by May 31 is unchanged" upsets me. Why lie through your teeth for WEEKS when this was the plan all along?

    Seriously, the data theft thing is crap in my opinion. Cancel your CC. Anyone can get your address and name from anywhere. Oh no, my password is known! Well, if I could get onto PSN I'd change the damn thing.

    If Sony was up front and honest from the start this would be going much better for them. "Listen customers, we got bent over big time and your data was stolen. We have to rebuild the entire network so it is going to take a month or more, please don't leave". Instead they chose to lie their collective asses off and blow smoke for weeks and weeks.

    They should have focused on getting the gaming side up and running right away. Warned everyone there would be intermittent downtime for upgrades and let people play games while they worked on the data security side of the issue. No one really cares, they just want to play games. By worrying about securing everyone's credit card information so they can profit from the PSStore they are alienating people...and creating a massive number of XBox customers at the same time.

    BTW, this story about May 31st has been out there all day and STILL not a damn thing from Sony as an update. They are terrified of telling people the truth, and pissing them off more by NOT telling them then if they actually did. I despise M$ with every fibre of my being but I am actually considering buying an XBox.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    “Up by May 31” and “phased reactivation” are not mutually exclusive concepts. It’s entirely possible they were going to restart the service by last Saturday, and then bring stuff online weekly until everything was up by May 31. The real problem is that Sony is TERRIBLE at communication and public relations.

    Anyway: Anonymous hacked its own IRC servers

    MUCH more at the link. Read it.
     
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  20. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Guess the hackers themselves were asking for it. :tongue2:
     
  21. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    PSN restoration will take a few more days… duh:

     
  22. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    A rented server from Amazon was used to attack PSN:

     
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  23. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Firmware 3.61 is live.
     
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  24. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    A solid step in the right direction. I wonder how long until online gaming comes back.
     
  25. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    PSN reactivation has begun.

    Network map here.
     
  26. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    First game on MK double flawless victory. Feels good LOL
     
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  27. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Finally up in Florida. Shame I don’t have any PS3 multiplayer games or I’d care more. :lol:
     
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  28. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Finally up and I'm nowhere near my PS3. FML.
     
  29. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Up just in time for L.A. Noire on Tuesday.
     
  30. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I’ll be playing Honest Hearts for New Vegas.
     
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  32. finsincebirth

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    PSN goes up last night, and when I come home from work my internet is down.

    [video=youtube;WWaLxFIVX1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s[/video]
     
  33. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    :lol:

    Sorry, I’m not terribly hyped up for LA Noire. I’ll probably play it by summer, but I’m more looking forward to Duke Nukem Forever next month.
     
  34. daphins

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    It's telling me it's "down for maintenance"....

    Also, i just found out my netflix is an old version. My buddy has the ribbon style, and mine is the old one with the programs on the left. I un-installed and re-installed and it still looks the same. What's up with that?
     
  35. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Not all services are back up. The PS Store is still down, for instance.
     
  36. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    It just came back up. Others were experiencing it too. I logged on, installed the update, and tried to login and it told me I had to change the password. Then it timed out and when I re-tried it said it was down for maintenance. Stayed that way for 20 minutes or so. No biggie.
     
  37. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    So there any more control options to browse the netflix library? I mean it only shows 75 any way to browse category's?
     
  38. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    18 hours after changing my password, the PS Store still says it’s down for maintenance for me.
     
  39. daphins

    daphins A-Style

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    I didn't mean the store. I meant PSN in general. I couldn't access online games, netflix, etc. The Store is still down, and will be for awhile longer according to the WSJ. But at least I can log into my netflix without the irritating "log in failed" boxes that proceed it.
     
  40. Desides

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    Right, that’s what I told you: not all services are back up, despite being able to log in to the PSN.
     

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