Sparano compares DBess to RGM..and what he looks for in a returner
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padre31luxury_boxOP(On what he likes about Ryan Grice-Mullen in comparison to Davone Bess) – “I think they’re two different players, I really do. I think they remind me a little bit of each other in the fact that—it must have been a heck of a 7 on 7 period down there in Hawaii when you’re throwing the ball around and these two guys are moving all over the place. They’re both really quick twitch guys that way, and they’re quicker probably then they are fast. That’s the thing that they have in common. Of course, Davone is built a little lower to the ground and Grice is a little taller than Davone I would say. Both of them have good ball skills. But, just a little bit different players I think in what they do for the football team. The thing that they have in common is that they both have return abilities and some of those skills. So, that was something that interests us with Grice as well.”
(On if there’s a difference between the skills needed for returning the football in the CFL versus the NFL) – “I would say so, yes. The field size and all of those kinds of things make it a little bit different. Also, certainly speed coming down the field and any of those types of things. So, I would think that having the ability to judge the ball as the returner and not having to go through that process—He has shown me so far, and not just here in the last couple of days, he has shown me good ability to judge the football back there which is a major hurdle with any returner is to get by that type of deal. So, I feel like he’s going to be a pretty good decision maker.”
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The one thing I've learned about the CFL is...Speed..Speed...Speed...they typical CFLer HAS to run well to play, so Sparano may be off base a bit on that one...
RGM is also faster than DBess...but DBess has better hands.
padre31luxury_boxNot quite Duper/Clayton...but here is Bess and Mullin..ie...the dread heads:
YouTube- Ryan Grice-Mullins
YouTube- Sheraton Hawaii Bowl Brennan's 5 Touchdown Passes
Puka-headsubscriberWait a minute here, what did I miss?
Is Ryan a Dolphin now???
OK I read the article...wow, best news I have had in days. Mullen and Bess both were 1,000 yd recievers at HI. The HI recievers HAD to be really smart players and able to communicate and have perfect timing with the QB.
I really hope he makes it. Our WR corps is going to be sick this year.
padre31luxury_box"Puka-head wrote:
Wait a minute here, what did I miss?
Is Ryan a Dolphin now???
Supposedly they are tracking down Jason Rivers as well..j/k
We have 2/3rds of the 07 UHI Wr corps on the roster.
Puka-headsubscriber"padre31 wrote:
Supposedly they are tracking down Jason Rivers as well..j/k
We have 2/3rds of the 07 UHI Wr corps on the roster.
Last I heard Rivers was still on the Titans roster. He was the only one of the three drafted, even though he was the third leading reciever of the group. I think it was just a size thing, Mullen and Bess were both better.
PSGforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
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The one thing I've learned about the CFL is...Speed..Speed...Speed...they typical CFLer HAS to run well to play, so Sparano may be off base a bit on that one...
RGM is also faster than DBess...but DBess has better hands.
Padre, I know you know all about RGM, because of your new found love of the CFL, so I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
But, I guarantee Grice-Mullen makes this team and is the KR/PR in Week 1.
P.S. CFL Draft today Padre.
padre31luxury_box"pigskinguy wrote:
Padre, I know you know all about RGM, because of your new found love of the CFL, so I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
But, I guarantee Grice-Mullen makes this team and is the KR/PR in Week 1.
I won't guarantee that same thing as imho RGM's hands are spotty, if he drops a kick ala Chris Williams he will not be on the dolphins very long.
P.S. CFL Draft today Padre.
And I'm somewhat geeked over that, there will be a live chat today at noon, I linked to it down in the CFL draft thread.
BC is just determined to take Shawn Gore...and he is in Packers minicamp.
PSGforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
I won't guarantee that same thing as imho RGM's hands are spotty, if he drops a kick ala Chris Williams he will not be on the dolphins very long.
His hands are fine, IMO. I'll be surprised if he doesn't make the team as the returner.
If not him then who? Back to Bess? Pretty uninspiring if you ask me.
padre31luxury_box"pigskinguy wrote:
His hands are fine, IMO. I'll be surprised if he doesn't make the team as the returner.
If not him then who? Back to Bess? Pretty uninspiring if you ask me.
Julius Pruitt, Kory sheets, Tristan Davis, all 4.4 players.
And relistening to Sparano's presser he mentioned that the "return guy" will have more opportunities to do things than just return kicks, RGM did used to run a jet sweep in BC, but it is unknown whether or not any of the above guys can do the same thing.
That would seem to give him an edge "but" Tristan Davis is a prototype retuner who specialized in returning kicks at Auburn, he is #20 and I'm really keeping an eye on him.
MrCleansubscriber"padre31 wrote:
Not quite Duper/Clayton...but here is Bess and Mullin..ie...the dread heads:
Some dude makes a youtube video of RGM and can't even spell his name right. :sidelol:
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
MrCleansubscriber"padre31 wrote:
Julius Pruitt, Kory sheets, Tristan Davis, all 4.4 players.
And relistening to Sparano's presser he mentioned that the "return guy" will have more opportunities to do things than just return kicks, RGM did used to run a jet sweep in BC, but it is unknown whether or not any of the above guys can do the same thing.
That would seem to give him an edge "but" Tristan Davis is a prototype retuner who specialized in returning kicks at Auburn, he is #20 and I'm really keeping an eye on him.
I like Sheets' chances the best to be the new KR man. He would also give us a different dimension as the 3rd RB, breakaway speed. Something Cobbs and Hilliard lack. Cobbs is a big question mark coming back from a knee anyway.
RGM and Sheets both could make the team. Grice could be the 5th WR and return punts while Sheets runs back kickoffs perhaps. His making the team as the 5th WR would likely mean an end to Turner unless he starts looking like Hakeem Nicks during training camp. Cam is a personal favorite of Tony's and it would take a lot before Turner is going to force a cut of Cam.
I agree about T. Davis. He is the dark horse candidate to be the KR man IMO.
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
Fin-OmenalNew Member"padre31 wrote:
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The one thing I've learned about the CFL is...Speed..Speed...Speed...they typical CFLer HAS to run well to play, so Sparano may be off base a bit on that one...
RGM is also faster than DBess...but DBess has better hands.
Well there goes any chance of him being anything more than a return man.
padre31luxury_box"MrClean wrote:
I like Sheets' chances the best to be the new KR man. He would also give us a different dimension as the 3rd RB, breakaway speed. Something Cobbs and Hilliard lack. Cobbs is a big question mark coming back from a knee anyway.
Well, Cobbs is Henning's "guy", he is a savvy player and handles ST kick coverage as well, Sheets is like a Statue who does one thing really well, that could hurt his chances to make the final 53.
RGM and Sheets both could make the team. Grice could be the 5th WR and return punts while Sheets runs back kickoffs perhaps. His making the team as the 5th WR would likely mean an end to Turner unless he starts looking like Hakeem Nicks during training camp. Cam is a personal favorite of Tony's and it would take a lot before Turner is going to force a cut of Cam.
RGM has 2 yrs of practice squad eligibility, but I suspect this will be a Winner Take all kind of deal, win the Returner job outright or maybe no longer be here.
As an aside, that 08 Draft Class underperforming is causing all sorts of problems, from not picking up a Te due to John Nalbone, to White causing a logjam at Qb and Pat Turner's lack of performance with just as valid prospects on the roster.
I agree about T. Davis. He is the dark horse candidate to be the KR man IMO.
Tristan is stumpy, thick, and fast, and experienced, I suspect he will open some eyes during Training Camp just due to being a physical overmatch for third and fourth string types.
princekong2New Memberhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1396364236342741062#
We are Gonna have A Deadly 3 recevier Set
Marshall Far Right
Grice Mullen Far Left
Davone Bess Slot
Talk About Weapons of Mass Destruction for Henne
We are gonna be the Total Package
jdang307subscriber"princekong2 wrote:
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We are Gonna have A Deadly 3 recevier Set
Marshall Far Right
Grice Mullen Far Left
Davone Bess SlotTalk About Weapons of Mass Destruction for Henne
We are gonna be the Total Package
Um, I'd rather have hartline in there than two WRs with what appears to be similar skill sets.
princekong2New Member"jdang307 wrote:
Um, I'd rather have hartline in there than two WRs with what appears to be similar skill sets.
Hey We Can Have it Both Ways! WMD Package 1=Marshall, Hartline Bess
WMD Package 2: Hawaii's Finest and Marshall
k-bayfinfanforum_veteran"padre31 wrote:
I won't guarantee that same thing as imho RGM's hands are spotty, if he drops a kick ala Chris Williams he will not be on the dolphins very long.
I thought RGM was a better return man than Bess in college. But i do agree that his hands can be spotty at times.
Saw these guys play live numerous times and the articles about there similarities are right on( I remember being at games and having to wait to see which number was on the back of the dreadhead that just scored. I'm sure it was just as confusing for defenses). I have a good feeling about him bcuz RGM and Bess have experience finding holes in the secondary together and their chemistry may still work. And like I said before, I also think he is the better return man of the two.
padre31luxury_box"Fin-Omenal wrote:
Well there goes any chance of him being anything more than a return man.
That is incorrect Fin-O, in BC they used RGM on the Jet Sweep in the same way we used Ricky Williams in our WC.
His hands are not terrible, as in Chambers/Ginn bad, and he can make the tough catch in a crowd, but on stuff like crossing routes I've seen passes ricochet off of his mittens.
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