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Sparano on why there is such little Yards After Catch from the wr's

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-tony-sparano-100809,0,7606957.story


    It would seem to me that HC Sparano is being contradictorial, "if" Penny was so outstanding at that, then why was there no evidence of it on the field?

    For all of Ginn's flaws, I did not see him even being thrown the ball on time and in stride, ditto for every other Wr save for Devone "money" Bess and those were literally...3 yd passes or less..
     
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  2. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    Accuracy is the overarching factor, for all routes. Now deeper throws would require both velocity and accuracy ( skinny post for example).

    The bills played a lot of man coverage with trail techique. Henne didn't accuratley drop the ball over the top of the defender. But on the plus side he did seem to read the defense fairly well. From what I could tell.
     
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  3. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I know people thought Ginn would be the beneficiary of Henne, but I watched Greg Camarillo make some nice medium length catches (say 15 yds) on turn in routes, to me he will benefit the most from Henne because he can get open consistently and Henne can make the throws on medium routes that Penny couldn't make with enough zip on the ball.
     
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  4. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    It's a function of not calling good enough passing plays and not having quality WR's who can get open on a consistent basis.


    Here is an idea I've seen thrown around(pun intended) by NFL teams since I started watching football.

    Throw the F***** ball over the middle of the field.
     
  5. like2god

    like2god Typical white person Luxury Box

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    Simple, as I said before, because of Pennington's lack of arm strength, opposing defenses weren't concerned with long passes, so they tightened up on receivers giving them less room to work....meaning fewer YAC. I saw Pennington make some nice throws, but the defender was always right there to make the tackle. Pennington was a very accurate and efficient QB, but it came at a price (distance) and that allowed defenses to play closer and just worry about the plays infront of them. :wink2:
     
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  6. Rhody Phins Fan

    Rhody Phins Fan Well-Known Member

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    I was never impressed with Pennington's ability to hit wide receivers in the right spot to help them gain yards after the catch.
     
  7. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    so far Henne can't throw it either apparently

    Our receivers on a scale of 1-10, 10 being awesome are a 4.
     
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  8. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'd definitely agree with that.
     
  9. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    It's true, a WR will never make an impact around here until we can find a QB like Kyle Orton.... :lol:
     
  10. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    Curl routes don't really generate YAC.
    When 90% of your outside routes are curl routes, there's your answer.
     
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  11. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I actually REALLY like Kyle as a QB and always have. He should have been starting for the Bears instead of Grossman. The problem is they NEVER let him work through his rookie and young career mistakes. Now that he is in Denver he is playing very well.
     
  12. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    He's not bad......but he's probably closer to being average than he is to being good.
     
  13. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    agree that camarillo will benfit big time. also hartline i think. ginn should eventually though
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Remind me again why we are judging how Henne throws after one start?
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
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  15. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    yeah, pennington was accurate, but comeback routes leave little room for YAC. too bad we dont throw posts or slants.
     
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  16. mbmonk

    mbmonk I have no clue

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    I just stated what I saw. I didn't say he is a bust and we should put in pat white. So I wasn't judging him.

    Also Henne threw the ball in many games and just because they weren't starts doesn't make them irrelevant.
     
  17. padre31

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    Just to throw this out there, with the Bills season virtually over, Terrel Owens will be available for cheap, he knows the offense as well...

    Just sayin'...:shifty:
     
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  18. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    lol...who's the "bastid" now?
     
  19. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I mean...6-3....what good is TO doing in Buffalo other than keeping the media in suspense for a "Mommy Dearest" type of explosion?
     
  20. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    That explosion is going to be nuclear....he's got to be freakin out right now.

    I bet he wishes he hadn't jumped on that Buffalo offer so fast.
     
  21. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    What's worse, Edwards is having such a crappy season TO looks like he is d-o-n-e, I personally don't think TO is done, I do think he is no longer a 13 TD a season Wr.

    Besides, we could really use Roscoe Parrish, he was on the trade block until McKelvin broke his leg.
     
  22. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    From what I've seen of TO lately, he looks like a shell of the former player he once was...

    And Parrish should come cheap after fumbling the game away today vs Cleveland...lol
     
  23. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Parish isnt a number one WR^
     
  24. padre31

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    True, Parrish is one heck of a kick returner though, something we need.
     
  25. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    After today he might not even be employed
     
  26. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    He is also rather expensive, the Bills are basically the Marlins North, he makes fairly decent coin, a purge would not surprise anyone...

    That is, "if" we win tonight, 1-4 teams trading players is not exactly a recipe for success, we can be crappy without adding payroll...if we win, it would make sense to claim him and be on the hook for his 2 million per season, if we don't, well there is always Ted Ginn.
     
  27. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Pennington was horrible at placing a ball for YAC. Looking at Ginn's best game (buffalo) a lot of the balls were underthrown or took a little longer to get there. Even the WC throw to Cobbs last year when Cobbs was buck naked was underthrown, Cobbs had to hold up for quite a bit waiting for it.
     
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  28. ATLFINFAN

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    I will be VERY dissappointed if we even THINK of getting TO. HE is a drop machine......with an attitude. No thanks.
     
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  29. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    no comment
     
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  30. keypusher

    keypusher Well-Known Member

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    The Dolphins had good, though not great, YAC with Pennington last year. Receivers had good YAC with him his whole career. Look it up.

    They didn't have it this year in 2 1/2 games with Pennington, for whatever reason. Whether it would have changed if he had stayed healthy we'll never know. Let's hope it changes with Henne.
     
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  31. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    To tell you the truth, every single passing stat suffered this year, from top to bottom. QBR, YPA, everything. Was down. Our passing offense just plain sucked.
     
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    BINGO! We have a winner!
     
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