Sparano's love for Pat Cobbs..dead fish alert..

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padre31padre31luxury_boxOP
Jul 4, 2010, 10:25 PM

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-patrick-cobbs-dolphins-0704-20100702,0,6731586.story

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano certainly had come to lean on Cobbs after giving him the opportunity to enjoy a breakout season in 2008. Cobbs distinguished himself in so many areas: third-down receiving threat, kickoff returner, Wildcat weapon, special teams torpedo.

Losing Cobbs had a tremendous ripple effect.

"We missed this guy a lot," Sparano says. "There's a lot of jobs he does that not a lot of people want to stand in line for, and this guy does them and he does them well. Until he's not there you don't really realize just how well he does it."

Cobbs, the shortest Dolphin at 5-foot-8, openly hopes to reclaim as many of his former jobs as possible but realizes that may take some time.

"It's moving along, but I'm not all the way there yet," he says. "I want to be able to do everything I did before and I want to do those jobs better. I want to be able to do even a lot more. I'm not taking this injury as an excuse of why I can't do something

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Sparano is messin' up, sooner or later, Sparano will have to face the facts...Cobbs just is not that good...PCobbs is a fish...

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 4, 2010, 10:32 PM

He's our Kevin Faulk!

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Jul 4, 2010, 10:40 PM

"lmeister3 wrote:

He's our Kevin Faulk!

Sooner or later, Cobbs will be a fish, preferably sooner.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 4, 2010, 10:50 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Sooner or later, Cobbs will be a fish, preferably sooner.

Not before he sports a SB ring.

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Jul 4, 2010, 11:05 PM

He is the same player as hillard and hillard is a youner player

jetssuckjetssuckNew Member
Jul 4, 2010, 11:15 PM

"padre31 wrote:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-patrick-cobbs-dolphins-0704-20100702,0,6731586.story

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Sparano is messin' up, sooner or later, Sparano will have to face the facts...Cobbs just is not that good...PCobbs is a fish...

He's worth 3 Pat White's, 4 Pat Turners, 9 Ted Ginn's and one of these, just to make it an even swap:

JS

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Jul 4, 2010, 11:23 PM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

He is the same player as hillard and hillard is a youner player

not true although they used hilliard in that role last season
lex should have been spelling ricky a little more often when ronnie went down. he can push the footbal inside.
cobbs has many talents but running between the tackles isn't one of them :up:

padre31padre31luxury_box
Jul 4, 2010, 11:33 PM

"jetssuck wrote:

He's worth 3 Pat White's, 4 Pat Turners, 9 Ted Ginn's and one of these, just to make it an even swap:

Dude is a Scrubini...rarely...very rarely do I invoke the Big ***** injunction that "sooner or later Tone, ya gotta face the facts...these guys around me..they are asleep.."

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Partying with the Dead Man's Party JS.

jetssuckjetssuckNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 12:45 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Dude is a Scrubini...rarely...very rarely do I invoke the Big ***** injunction that "sooner or later Tone, ya gotta face the facts...these guys around me..they are asleep.."

YouTube- Oingo Boingo - It's a Dead Man's Party

Partying with the Dead Man's Party JS.

Depends on his health..... if healthy, none of these new guys will displace him. He's just too versatile.... and is viewed as such by Sparano.

JS

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 01:28 AM

He's versatile, and is actually talented.

Come on Padre, you can't stand up for White and not stand up Cobbs.

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 01:29 AM

"jetssuck wrote:

Depends on his health..... if healthy, none of these new guys will displace him. He's just too versatile.... and is viewed as such by Sparano.

coach loves cobbs we know that
but give me something lately
its 2010 patrick doesn't know if he can get it done
hilliard has more upside these days :wink2:

gafinfangafinfansubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 04:26 AM

There is no way Cobbs is ready at the start of this season imho. I'm betting this guy gets left by the wayside. One should always guard against this FO/CS saying great things about a player that is injured.


This is the only thing I’ve learned: There’s only us. There’s no them. Despots and authoritarians need to make a “them” to have a straw man whom you are against. If you need to make an enemy of “them,” you’ve lost the spirit of us. - Ken Burns of PBS

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 04:35 AM

Patrick Cobbs gives more bang for the buck than just about anyone on our entire roster, period. 3rd down back, 3rd string RB, KO team, KO return team, Punt team, Punt return team, hands team. He does all of them well, and for only for a few hundred thousand. Arguing against him being on the roster for any reason other than health is just uncivilized.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Jul 5, 2010, 06:05 AM

"GMJohnson wrote:

Patrick Cobbs gives more bang for the buck than just about anyone on our entire roster, period. 3rd down back, 3rd string RB, KO team, KO return team, Punt team, Punt return team, hands team. He does all of them well, and for only for a few hundred thousand. Arguing against him being on the roster for any reason other than health is just uncivilized.

Cobbs is a good 3rd down back because he runs hard and catches competently, but the man is absolutely terrible as a returner. He and Bess both have no business out there as returners.

Chris Williams, why did you have to suck? Why?

@desides01

"Not you." — Tywin Lannister

Ohio FanaticOhio Fanaticsubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 06:46 AM

Padre, didn't you already start a thread on this subject a few weeks ago? Don't understand why you dislike Cobbs, but like I said before, you're wrong on this subject. A healthy Cobbs is worth his weight in gold for many different reasons I'm not going to spell out again since this is a duplicate thread.

testing

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 07:32 AM

"Desides wrote:

Cobbs is a good 3rd down back because he runs hard and catches competently, but the man is absolutely terrible as a returner. He and Bess both have no business out there as returners.

Chris Williams, why did you have to suck? Why?


Oh yeah, thanks for correcting me. He isnt what you want on the KR at all.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 07:50 AM

"jetssuck wrote:

He's worth 3 Pat White's, 4 Pat Turners, 9 Ted Ginn's and one of these, just to make it an even swap:

That is the most awesome toaster I have ever seen.

Also, Hilliard is not on par with Cobbs right now IMO.

Losing Cobbs hurt like a bitch.

I think hilliard can turn into cobbs, but cobbs is there (minus his injury). He has a good attitude about it.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Jul 5, 2010, 07:51 AM

Personally I want Cobbs on our team, he contributes, a lunch pail kind of player who is not flashy but goes out and gets it done. Agree I really want someone else returning kickoffs and punts, but Cobbs is too versatile in so many other ways of value to this team, he stays.

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LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 08:07 AM

Cobbs...jack of all trades (on an NFL offense), but master of none. He's made himself more difficult to replace because he does do several different jobs adequately. However, he's not best KO returner, not the best RB, not the best 3rd back, etc in the league, he's just pretty good at those jobs he does. I think many of us think of him like we did Rex Hadnot....who has proven that while he was better than most of the OL we had at the time he was here, he was just mediocre as an NFL player...I see Cobbs in the same light...Someone above brought up Kevin Faulk...if we had Kevin Faulk, Cobbs would not be here. Faulk is far superior in that 'jack of all trades-offense' role than Cobbs ever was or will be.

Don't get me wrong, we did miss him and some of the things he does, because the guys we used to to those things weren't as good at them as he was, but he's just not all that...

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jul 5, 2010, 08:46 AM

patrick cobbs does.....

-kick return
-catch out of the backfield
-plays all special teams
-unselfish
-wildcat
-swiss army knife type player

hmmmmm.......lookin at that list......yeah lets get rid of him. hes worthless...........:huh:

funkdatfunkdatNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 09:02 AM

I would have to REALLY question someones football IQ if they really think Cobbs should not be on this team.

Just like i did a year and half ago with that person who says he's an old NFL scout saying Miami was looking to replace Y.Bell...................IMHO this, just like that.... is crazy talk.

:hammertime:

gafinfangafinfansubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 10:25 AM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Cobbs...jack of all trades (on an NFL offense), but master of none. He's made himself more difficult to replace because he does do several different jobs adequately. However, he's not best KO returner, not the best RB, not the best 3rd back, etc in the league, he's just pretty good at those jobs he does. I think many of us think of him like we did Rex Hadnot....who has proven that while he was better than most of the OL we had at the time he was here, he was just mediocre as an NFL player...I see Cobbs in the same light...Someone above brought up Kevin Faulk...if we had Kevin Faulk, Cobbs would not be here. Faulk is far superior in that 'jack of all trades-offense' role than Cobbs ever was or will be.

Don't get me wrong, we did miss him and some of the things he does, because the guys we used to to those things weren't as good at them as he was, but he's just not all that...

:up: 100%!

A stat look at PC:

Rushing - in the 38 games he's been active these are his stats:
Att: 33 for 171 yards 3 long runs of 19, 44, and 12 = 75 yards (1 each of the last 3 years)
Average = 5.2 ypc yet when you take away the 3 long runs he averages only 3.2 ypc

Recieving: in 38 games he has caught 24 passes for 318 yards 19 of which were caught in 2008, his best recieving year with 2 TDs

Kick returns - 29 kr for 594 yards averaging 20.5 ypr in 38 games with only 1 run going over 40 yards

All of the above comes from the NFL site.

Cobbs, while a likable guy is surely replaceable, more than likely with someone now hidden on our roster.


This is the only thing I’ve learned: There’s only us. There’s no them. Despots and authoritarians need to make a “them” to have a straw man whom you are against. If you need to make an enemy of “them,” you’ve lost the spirit of us. - Ken Burns of PBS

Ronnie BassRonnie Bassluxury_box
Jul 5, 2010, 10:40 AM

The hate for Cobb from some in this forum puzzles me.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 5, 2010, 10:44 AM

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

The hate for Cobb from some in this forum puzzles me.

This

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

FIFinsAreLifeNew Member
Jul 5, 2010, 10:55 AM

Youll see by the end of the year that Cobbs is a very solid player

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