Speculation..Trade up possible with Kansas City?

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

The draft chart is worthless these days. Besides, it was only a "rule of thumb" kinda thing devised by Jimmy Johnson.

I wouldn't call it worthless. Sure, it is not a hard and fast rule, but it is still a basic guideline.
If a trade is made ahead of time, then teams are more likely to stick closer to the chart.
When a team is on the clock and another team really wants to make a move up to get a certain player that they really covet, they are likely to pay more than the chart suggests.

By the way, who are we trading up for exactly?

"Conuficus wrote:

By the way, who are we trading up for exactly?

Orakpo or Curry.

"Conuficus wrote:

By the way, who are we trading up for exactly?

In actuality probably no one. In Padre's speculation, please refer to post #1 of this thread. :up:

Orakpo or Curry?

Damn.................I'd do it sure, so long as I get the draft picks from the Chiefs to move up, I ain't paying for that. :lol:

"Conuficus wrote:

Orakpo or Curry?

Damn.................I'd do it sure, so long as I get the draft picks from the Chiefs to move up, I ain't paying for that. :lol:

We spent a ton of time on Orakpo...the three visits...

As for paying, that depends on Jeff the Geek Ireland...why workout Orakpo that much if you aren't going to make a play for him?

"padre31 wrote:

We spent a ton of time on Orakpo...the three visits...

As for paying, that depends on Jeff the Geek Ireland...why workout Orakpo that much if you aren't going to make a play for him?

Due diligence??? :confused2:

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The National Football Post seconds a report by SI's Peter King that the Chiefs are actively trying to trade out of the No. 3 spot in this weekend's draft. The Chiefs are desperate to trade out because they don't envision any of the candidates to go third overall as a perfect fit, worthy of a monster contract. They're believed to be willing to accept a middling return since Top-10 picks no longer carry the trade value they once did.

I'd like to present a slightly different slant on this report. But, let me preface this by saying I haven't read about any this firsthand. Just responding to this thread.

I just saw on NFLN that there are rumors floating around that teams may be trying to move up in front of Seattle to pick Sanchez. Washington and NY Jets are the two that were reported. So, my question is...are the Chiefs really "desperate to trade out" as is being reported? Or, are they just trying to take advantage of what might be an opportunity to get out of the three hole and pick up more picks?

"The G Man wrote:

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I'd like to present a slightly different slant on this report. But, let me preface this by saying I haven't read about any this firsthand. Just responding to this thread.

I just saw on NFLN that there are rumors floating around that teams may be trying to move up in front of Seattle to pick Sanchez. Washington and NY Jets are the two that were reported. So, my question is...are the Chiefs really "desperate to trade out" as is being reported? Or, are they just trying to take advantage of what might be an opportunity to get out of the three hole and pick up more picks?

Both.

Pioli wants more picks. He's always worked that way. They don't want to pay the third overall pick big money from what I understand. They are not looking to invest highly in a player that they are not completely comfortable with. The aforementioned Tyson Jackson is likely there target and he's one of the safest players in the draft; he has to be up there. What they can do attempt to do is pass up on him at three and move to say eight and snatch him up there. One other thing to note is that reportedly Cleveland has interest in selecting Jackson at five. If the Chiefs move out of there despite Cleveland's interests, its because they probably want Connor Barwin - that I'm sure of. Because of that interest in Barwin, they will be able to swing a deal with a team like Denver or New York to acquire multiple extra draft choices and get a guy they want.

"padre31 wrote:

We spent a ton of time on Orakpo...the three visits...

As for paying, that depends on Jeff the Geek Ireland...why workout Orakpo that much if you aren't going to make a play for him?

Because there's a possibility that Orakpo takes a fall. If Orakpo slips in the twelve to fifteen range, they could think about moving up for him and getting him to play strong-side linebacker. He would be the replacement for Joey Porter in the future as he can play weak-side rusher as well. He'd best fit on the weak-side in my opinion because he can't open his hips very well due to stiffness from excessive muscle mass IMO.

Its also part of due diligence. They spoke with Mark Sanchez earlier this off-season. They know anything is possible and at that time, Sanchez was a guy that could go early or take a real tumble ala Brady Quinn.

i think we're all overlooking the fact that we can't afford to pay the #3 pick.

Don''t see a draft day trade into the top five with the unknown element of how big the contract would be... especially since that's the main disincentive for teams currently stuck picking in the top five.

If the regime had to make that trade, they'd want to have had discussions with their target player's agent to ensure they'd be comfortable with the ballpark figures for a deal. Otherwise it gets messy... you overpay or there's a holdout.

Once you have already picked a guy, you have lost most of your leverage, of course.

Anyways, we have too many needs to go after a stud at the cost of several draft picks.

Not gonna happen.

This regime feels too strongly about draft picks to trade them away and move up for a talent that we could get at 25 anyway.

I'm not really in love with any particular player enough to move far up the tree. If we needed a QB that badly that's about it.

is crabtree's stock falling?

YouTube - PFTV 4/22/09: Where Will Michael Crabtree Land?

Any chance KC takes Ronnie Brown and our #25 pick for their #3?? I know it sounds like Blasphemy but with all of the trade talk.... I would do that only for Curry or Orakpo and KC needs a featured back. And then only if we go running back somewhere in the second with a Donald Brown at 2a or a LeSean McCoy at 2b.

Is there any possibility. Donald Brown really intrigues me.........