Sports Buzz-Veterans say rookies Carroll, Misi impressing

Shut down the haters Pat!

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Shut down the haters Pat!

Good joke. :pointlol:

One veteran issued a ``no comment'' when asked about safety Reshad Jones, who hasn't seriously challenged Chris Clemons

Ouch.

"Colorado Dolfan wrote:

Ouch.

Not surprising, people on the board gave Jones more credit than deserved.

"I MiZFiT I wrote:

Not surprising, people on the board gave Jones more credit than deserved.

Yeah, heard a lot about what a steal we got picking him where we did... Not looking good at the moment, though...

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Shut down the haters Pat!

Hope he can, but I still just don't see it. :no:

"Colorado Dolfan wrote:

Yeah, heard a lot about what a steal we got picking him where we did... Not looking good at the moment, though...

Because people looked at his highlight reel and got all happy. But in reality, every player has a highlight reel.

Might he eventually live up to the hype of the fans, maybe. Just not right now.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Shut down the haters Pat!

We'll see.

Haynos if he manages to become a OT/TE type is huge, an extra OT who can run routes and inline block is such a weapon,

"CrunchTime wrote:

``Nolan is real athletic and quick -- he will play a lot of years in the league,'' Yeremiah Bell said.
Jake Long said Misi ``is quick off the line, very strong for his size.'' Channing Crowder added, ``He's still getting a rush even when he goes against Jake and Vernon Carey.'' Quentin Moses said ``college to the NFL was night and day for me, but Misi has made the transition easily. He looks so smooth; his motor stands out.''

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/12/1677417/miami-dolphins-veterans-say-rookies.html#ixzz0qhfJZFM2


Four veterans who received multiple mentions: Dansby, Pat White, Vontae Davis and Chad Henne (who has completed more than 75 percent of his passes in May/June drills). Ronnie Brown cited Kory Sheets and Joey Haynos as most improved. ``Pat White is by far the most improved player,'' Greg Camarillo said. ``He has changed his body, improved his accuracy. Last year, he was hit or miss.''
There is more - its wortnh reading.

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Good read, thanks for the link.

Good news and great way to start a Sunday.

I'm really excited about some of the new blood and can't wait to see them in action especially after they get a few games under their belts and get a feel for the NFL.

"I MiZFiT I wrote:

Not surprising, people on the board gave Jones more credit than deserved.

ridiculous
they aren't even in pads yet
so people were excited to get him as a late round pick
the guy might end up being a steal

All good news, especially Misi and Sheets, but can't get too excited about it. Sure there's a lot of this going on with a lot of teams this time of year, won't know anything for sure until September but it's encouraging at least.

"Killerphins wrote:

ridiculous
they aren't even in pads yet
so people were excited to get him as a late round pick
the guy might end up being a steal

Exactly, Jones's best ability is as a hitter, without pads that will not show up during the pajama party that is OTA's

I do think the rumblings about Kory Sheets are good news, in fact between RGM,Sheets and Pruitt a explosive returner will be an option this year.

As for Pat White, I'll say Dolfans should be patient with him, there are some encouraging rumblings as Omark commented on in the last open OTA, but we all should just wait and see with him imho.

I have some confidence his speed and explosiveness should be greatly improved this year which will make a huge difference in his game imho.

"padre31 wrote:

Exactly, Jones's best ability is as a hitter, without pads that will not show up during the pajama party that is OTA's

I do think the rumblings about Kory Sheets are good news, in fact between RGM,Sheets and Pruitt a explosive returner will be an option this year.

As for Pat White, I'll say Dolfans should be patient with him, there are some encouraging rumblings as Omark commented on in the last open OTA, but we all should just wait and see with him imho.

I have some confidence his speed and explosiveness should be greatly improved this year which will make a huge difference in his game imho.

Let's pray that this is the case and a coverage/football IQ issue. It'd be devastating to have a hammer out there who can't get into position to make the play be it an INT or big hit.

"lmeister3 wrote:

Let's pray that this is the case and a coverage/football IQ issue. It'd be devastating to have a hammer out there who can't get into position to make the play be it an INT or big hit.

Not unusual though, sometimes these cats just don't have the mind to play Safety in the NFL, it happens.

To me the real story is this is the first year in many many years that the Dolphins don't have to hit on every draft pick and get some production out of all of them. We've finally reached a point where there is quality depth.

That could not be said since the Jimmie Johnson era.

Just finished reading this article and I too was happy to hear the players talk up Pat White. I wasn't to pleased when we drafted him so high at 2nd, but once that was history I've been pulling for him. Another name I've been following since last Oct is Sheets. I would love to see an outside threat with our running game.

That said, I feel the need to point out that my absolute fav fin is Lex Hillard. He's the closes I've seen to Larry Czonka, my all time fav. Hope to be seeing Lex blow up some DB's this year!

Encouraging news, especially about Nolan Carroll. Is it me or are the rest of you more intrigued by how Misi performs? I mean even more than Odrick or Dansby. I view him as the key to the whole draft in that you kinda know what you're gonna get from Odrick and Jerry.

To me, if Misi doesn't pan out like they expected then it was a mistake not grabbing Graham at #12.

"Pandarilla wrote:

Encouraging news, especially about Nolan Carroll. Is it me or are the rest of you more intrigued by how Misi performs? I mean even more than Odrick or Dansby. I view him as the key to the whole draft in that you kinda know what you're gonna get from Odrick and Jerry.

To me, if Misi doesn't pan out like they expected then it was a mistake not grabbing Graham at #12.

To me, Misi is being hyped a bit too much, from Lombardi to Barry Jackson he is receiving love for doing little else but run around in shorts and a tshirt.

A couple of newbies are growing on me though, Odrick could be the key to our passrush, and the Returners have me intrigued.

couple thoughts...

Pat White was a wasted draft pick. He is never ever ever going to be an NFL QB. You just don't spend a 2nd round pick on a gimmick guy.

I'll wait until the pads are on before I say weather or not Jones is going to be any good. Having said that, my biggest concern on this team is the FS position. I just don't see an NFL FS on our roster right now.

Lastly, I hope Misi turns out to be as good a player as they are making him out to be. Personally, I think he is going to be good at just about everything except rushing the passer. I think he struggles in that department for us this year.

I find the positive reports about Henne, Sheets/Haynos and the LBs most encouraging. You also have to like Dansby's comments, but I don't know him well enough to know if he's somebody who says those kinds of things every year or not.

I would list the Pat White news as most surprising. I didn't like the pick, but I like the kid and I find myself rooting for him to make it.

I would list the Nolan Carroll news as surprising but you can include me among those who have never seen him play or had even heard of him prior to the draft. So, I really had no expectation either way.

The Reshad Jones news is disappointing. I didn't like the pick, but I was hoping to end up wrong on that one. The Turner news is disappointing for him, but I never expected anything from him so I don't think it will affect the team anymore than if I were too injured to play this year.

I would have liked to have heard somebody mention Wake. I expect big things from him this year and the silence is a bit ominous.

"rafael wrote:

The Reshad Jones news is disappointing. I didn't like the pick, but I was hoping to end up wrong on that one.

So it has been decided already that he is a disappointment.
I'm not sure what kind of NEWS you are talking about because all there is this.

One veteran issued a ``no comment'' when asked about safety Reshad Jones, who hasn't seriously challenged Chris Clemons.

what does that really mean except for Jones hasn't challenged CC. I would figure Jones to be more geared to ultimately replace Bell as SS.
But oh well everyone has labeled him a bust in shorts.
Dolphin fans kill me. A few OTA's and he is thrown onto the "never going to be anything" pile

"Killerphins wrote:

So it has been decided already that he is a disappointment.
I'm not sure what kind of NEWS you are talking about because all there is this.

what does that really mean except for Jones hasn't challenged CC. I would figure Jones to be more geared to ultimately replace Bell as SS.
But oh well everyone has labeled him a bust in shorts.
Dolphin fans kill me. A few OTA's and he is thrown onto the "never going to be anything" pile

A veteran issuing a "no comment" there basically means he couldn't think of anything good to say. You would assume that you might at least get a generic "he works hard". The fact that he didn't even get that is disappointing. That doesn't mean Jones is already a disappointment or a bust. That hasn't been decided yet and frankly shouldn't be for a couple of years. But to pretend that it isn't disappointing that a veteran couldn't think of anything good to say after watching the kid work for a week is unrealistic at best.

And nobody said he's"never going to be anything" or that he's a bust. You seem to be trying to perfect the art of jumping to the extremes on every little statement.

"rafael wrote:

A veteran issuing a "no comment" there basically means he couldn't think of anything good to say. You would assume that you might at least get a generic "he works hard". The fact that he didn't even get that is disappointing. But to pretend that it isn't disappointing that a veteran couldn't think of anything good to say after watching the kid work for a week is unrealistic at best.

My bad. I hadn't realized that you were there when the question was asked. :wink2:

Your post is a complete assumption. We don't know who was asked that question or the context. Kills me how people take such little information and spin it into what they want to believe. You my friend are a pro at that.

"I MiZFiT I wrote:

Because people looked at his highlight reel and got all happy. But in reality, every player has a highlight reel.

Might he eventually live up to the hype of the fans, maybe. Just not right now.

Really? Because I haven't been able to find one of Nolan Carrol.