SSsssshhhhhhh...whisper it quietly.....

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GalantGalantforum_veteranOP
Jul 23, 2014, 04:40 PM

...t e b o w....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h95gKrMhLgs


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

pocolocopocolocosubscriber
Jul 23, 2014, 08:06 PM

One thing I always liked about Tebow is that, if he fails, it will never because he didn't work hard enough

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 23, 2014, 08:22 PM

Sounds crazy I know, but I think I could win with tebow...spread offense power read option.

rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Jul 23, 2014, 08:31 PM

I am among the few who believe that Tebow can be an NFL QB. I think he's limited, but he does have talent. He's not a timing passer, but he is an instinctive and talented player. That's what you saw in Denver. They tried to force him to be a timing passer for most of the game and the offense struggled. Then they'd turn him loose and Denver pulled out games. A better coach would tailor their offense more to his skills. If he ended up in a Malzon offense, he'd win. Maybe not the whole thing, but quite a bit.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 23, 2014, 08:35 PM

"rafael wrote:

I am among the few who believe that Tebow can be an NFL QB. I think he's limited, but he does have talent. He's not a timing passer, but he is an instinctive and talented player. That's what you saw in Denver. They tried to force him to be a timing passer for most of the game and the offense struggled. Then they'd turn him loose and Denver pulled out games. A better coach would tailor their offense more to his skills. If he ended up in a Malzon offense, he'd win. Maybe not the whole thing, but quite a bit.

same page.

Give him Eddie Lacy and Tyler Eifert, a scat back and some decent receivers, and I will pound fools.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Jul 23, 2014, 10:27 PM

Modern Joe Kapp, will likely never be a pretty passer, will win a team football games IF they can run the ball and not rely on him to be a pocket passer.

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jul 23, 2014, 10:51 PM

A distraction though. Things will happen.

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

smahtazsmahtazforum_veteran
Jul 23, 2014, 11:21 PM

"lmeister3 wrote:

A distraction though. Things will happen.

You must have missed the memo. Distractions are only an issue if you're a coward.



It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. ~ John Wooden

pocolocopocolocosubscriber
Jul 24, 2014, 12:40 AM

Tebow brings the circus, no question. I don't think he is a fit for a conventional NFL offense, though maybe all this extra training has made him roster-quality.

He's a throwback QB. I think you run things like Florida and he's got a chance, but that is an awfully specific vision and set of personnel. It would take years.

His best chance is as a developmental third-stringer at this stage.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 01:02 AM

He also brings in a lot of money. For some reason he is seen as "The Christian" in a VERY Christian organization. If he was decent as a quarterback, he would have a team.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty

Clark KentClark Kentforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 02:14 AM

I actually hope he gets a shot somewhere. Tom House is becoming a well known off-season QB coach and Tebow is ultimate test. I know he questioned Tebow's biomechanics coming out of Florida, but if he's put in that much time with him this off-season, I'm really curious to see if Tebow's evolved as a passer.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 24, 2014, 03:09 AM

I would go there..as long as the coach and coordinator deployed the read option spread offense..

What circus, it's positive circus, his team falls in love with him..

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 24, 2014, 03:11 AM

He's been training for 5 months strait, 6 days a week, 100,000 reps..

Dilfer signs off on how the ball comes out in terms of spin and velocity..

I'm interested.

gunn34gunn34New Member
Jul 24, 2014, 09:42 AM

I would take a spin at him. If anything, he'll pack the house and make Tanny play better.

GalantGalantforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 09:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reOFI0SrXGE


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

byroanbyroanadmin
Jul 24, 2014, 09:48 AM

Still can't believe he beat us. :pity:

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 09:50 AM

"gunn34 wrote:

I would take a spin at him. If anything, he'll pack the house and make Tanny play better.

Put Tannehill in the shot gun, have Tebow at right wing, have him motion towards Tanne before the snap......too many options. Hand off, Tebow runs or passes (he's lefty running to the left).....or pull it back and throw....or Tanne pulls it back and runs....It's a beautiful red zone scheme.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 09:51 AM

"byroan wrote:

Still can't believe he beat us. :pity:

Thad Lewis beat us twice. That's worse imo.

GalantGalantforum_veteran
Jul 24, 2014, 09:53 AM

2010 Tebow Scouting Report

How much did his time in the NFL fix/demonstrate otherwise? How much is fixable?

Strengths:Good height and great musculature
Solid arm strength
Very good deep ball accuracy
Great pass rush sense and pocket instincts
Athletic and can move chains with legs
Extremely powerful runner
Good trucking ability; picks up yards after contact
Good character and strong work ethic
Prototype leader

Weaknesses:
Absolutely horrendous footwork; has not gotten better since freshman year
Plays in run-option offense
Doesn't throw smooth ball; bad touch
Inaccurate on intermediate routes
Extremely long release
Very bad passing mechanics
Locks onto primary receiver
No pro reads in offense
Left-handed
Tucks and runs
Doesn't make pro-style passing progression reads
Comes from program with bad QB pedigree

Summary: If I could take Tim Tebow's mind and put it into the body of some college quarterbacks, then they would be No. 1 overall picks. However, we have seen quarterbacks with outstanding intangibles bust at the next level. It will take Tebow 3-4 years to learn an NFL offense to where he could actually start a game.

Tebow's best fit at the next level will be at fullback or H-Back because his best skills are his running abilities; there's too much development involved to draft Tebow as a franchise quarterback, though the success of Pat White in the Wildcat offense could help his draft stock. Looks to be a second-round pick with his great intangibles and versatility.

Player Comparison: Byron Leftwich (Passer)/Mike Alstott (Runner). Tebow has a very similar release to Leftwich and he will also struggle to read defenses in NFL. He also has Mike Alstott's elite power running attributes with the ability to get yards after contact.


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

unluckylucianounluckylucianoNew Member
Jul 24, 2014, 09:53 AM

I root for Tebow as he seems like a pretty good guy with the charity work he does, doesn't get into trouble (from what I know of course). AS a qb though eesh.

thanks to VO for the sick ass sigs.


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byroanbyroanadmin
Jul 24, 2014, 10:17 AM

"SICK wrote:

Thad Lewis beat us twice. That's worse imo.

Yeah, that's pretty bad as well.

GalantGalantforum_veteran
Jul 29, 2014, 12:41 PM

Urban Meyer: "I still don't get "

" "He's the second-most efficient passer ever to play college football.""


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

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