Stadium Remodel Begins

"djphinfan wrote:

ratings go up when seattle games are played, some of that has to do with the venue and the atmosphere that comes across the screen...people tun in to watch that venue and fans perform..

Disagree with that last part

"Fin D wrote:

Well.....when you pony up $400 million, i suspect you can gave a say.

Man. That is a lot of lemonade.

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Yall need to check this **** out.....****ing amazing!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPKP7FaiqEE

By the way, I tweeted Tom to see if their were any plans to do this kind of fly in video for our stadium. Ill let you know if and when he answers.

See to me, that's all the wrong approach to marketing, the whole video showed nothing but all the different fluffy lounge places to watch and drink, now, is it an amazing thing to look at, is it captivating in that regard, most certainly, it's beautiful, but it only continues to show that they don't get it..that whole marketing campaign and a teams new venue should be all about 12 th man, and the steps that are going to be taken to do everything legally possible to make it real game experience, that's what you market, that's what your selling..they talk about how their trying to get fans away from their tvs and into their stadiums, but their going about it the wrong way, the way to get the fans to come to your venue is to make them feel like they are impacting the game and helping their team, and there's only one way to do that, and that's build it with the purpose to indimidate and then actually market that as much as you can...you wanna talk about fans wanting a piece of that action...shoot, Seattle fans get ready to go to war 8 to 10 times a year, literally they treat their participation very seriously, and good luck trying to get a season ticket....and you know what, it's the least expensive venue built in the league...it doesn't have to have all the fancy bells and whistles..

Hope your happy Atlanta, your the new jerrys world...dumasses.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

February through July, yes. I don't want the field to suffer in season because of other things. Moreso, I also dont want the Dolphins experience to suffer because of decesions based on other sports too.

Doesn't Sun Life Stadium host monster truck events annually? I say deal with it...... it will go through massive landscaping every year no matter what...

"djphinfan wrote:

See to me, that's all the wrong approach to marketing, the whole video showed nothing but all the different fluff fly lounge places to watch, now is it an amazing thing to look at, is it captivating in that regard, most certainly, it's beautiful, but it only co tines to show that they don't get it..that whole marketing campaign and a teams new venue should be all about 12 th man and the steps that are going to be taken to do everything legally possible to make it real game experience..they talk about how their trying to get fans away from their tvs and into their stadiums, but their going about it the wrong way, the way to get the fans to come to your venue is to make them feel like they are impacting the game and helping their team, and there's only one way to do that, and that's build it with the purpose to indimidate and then actually market that as much as you can...you wanna talk about fans wanting a piece of that action...shoot, Seattle fans get ready to go to war 8 to 10 times a year, literally they treat their participation very seriously, and good luck trying to get a season ticket....and you know what, it's the least expensive venue built in the league...it doesn't have to have all the fancy bells and whistles..

Hope your happy Atlanta, your the new jerrys world...dumasses.

The venue has also created a true soccer atmosphere for the sounders. Those fans are nuts.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

*sigh*

How much money do they make renting the place out for soccer? Can it possibly be worth it? :pity:

this is the big mistake..you should not build your football stadium so you can hold soccer events in it...take the hit on the soccer, build the most intimidating football stadium in the world and watch what happens..

"Coloradotrv wrote:

Any time the stadium can be used on a night it would other wise be empty it is absolutely worth it.

i don't agree, your sacrificing a fortune by not having the type of home field advantage I'm talking bout, just so you can hold a couple of soccer events...def not worth it, the first stadium built to intimidate will make more money consistently on the football end thru marketing, merchandise, culture, sponsorship, competitive advantage, ticket supply and demand, and by all the other events that will want to be there because of the lure thru intimate design.

wanting scoccer is what got us this freakin POS stadium that we have, and what has that gotten us, two programs that have deteriorated over the past two decades..and two programs that haven't won sh%$ since moving in.

"djphinfan wrote:

See to me, that's all the wrong approach to marketing, the whole video showed nothing but all the different fluffy lounge places to watch and drink, now, is it an amazing thing to look at, is it captivating in that regard, most certainly, it's beautiful, but it only continues to show that they don't get it..that whole marketing campaign and a teams new venue should be all about 12 th man, and the steps that are going to be taken to do everything legally possible to make it real game experience, that's what you market, that's what your selling..they talk about how their trying to get fans away from their tvs and into their stadiums, but their going about it the wrong way, the way to get the fans to come to your venue is to make them feel like they are impacting the game and helping their team, and there's only one way to do that, and that's build it with the purpose to indimidate and then actually market that as much as you can...you wanna talk about fans wanting a piece of that action...shoot, Seattle fans get ready to go to war 8 to 10 times a year, literally they treat their participation very seriously, and good luck trying to get a season ticket....and you know what, it's the least expensive venue built in the league...it doesn't have to have all the fancy bells and whistles..

Hope your happy Atlanta, your the new jerrys world...dumasses.

Yeah that was pretty much my thought. Technologically, its ****ing awesome. A stadium butthole opens to the sky. Wonderful, fascinating. The Atlanta Anus, truly a sight to behold.

But nothing else about that stadium really excites me. Give me Arrowhead or Sea's Link over it any day. Steep ass pitch with seats on top of the field, dome or roof to trap sound, thats the right way to do it. To build a new stadium, and create such a spaced out butthole contraption seems like such a waste.

"Coloradotrv wrote:

That is a reasonable opinion for a football fan. It is not a logical decision for a business man.

BS, its very reasonable if you understand the advantage that comes from the right football design..this is a moot point because even the kind of stadium I'm talking about can hold a soccer field in it...century link has the sounders play.

"djphinfan wrote:

this is the big mistake..you should not build your football stadium so you can hold soccer events in it...take the hit on the soccer, build the most intimidating football stadium in the world and watch what happens..

Building a stadium that you can only host football is extremely short sighted. $250mil + to only be used 8-10 times a year, either means the owner makes no profit, which is why they buy stadiums, or ticket prices are extremely high so most of the passionate fans cannot afford to go. Could ATL have done better to involve fans for football? Sure, but they are trying to establish a MLS franchise as well.

"lmeister3 wrote:

Disagree with that last part

your wrong meister imo, it is a draw initself..I think its quite obvious at this point people tune it to see and feel what that crowd is gonna do and perform..

"djphinfan wrote:

BS, its very reasonable if you understand the advantage that comes from the right football design..this is a moot point because even the kind of stadium I'm talking about can hold a soccer field in it...century link has the sounders play.

Correct. That stadium was built from the ground up though. This is a renovation. We have to deal with what we can get. ATL went fancy to try and get a super bowl. It will probably work, but that was the intent of their stadium. Superbowls are events to be seen at now. They are not for the fans.

"Coloradotrv wrote:

The venue has also created a true soccer atmosphere for the sounders. Those fans are nuts.

I'm sorry, i got confused a bit, i thought you were saying something different.

just got a tweet from Mr Garfinkle..the front row will be same height as it was, rake angle changed

"djphinfan wrote:

I'm sorry, i got confused a bit, i thought you were saying something different.

Dj.. How can you say just build it a football venue. First of all, the real money comes from hosting playoff games if I'm not mistaken. And football is a 4 month sport, Soccer is year round. If you look at when JRS was built, the design is fairly typical of that time. Again I use Gillette as an example. You are not right on top of anything in that stadium, yet look at their home record. The kind of money being spent, half a billion dollars, you have to get the biggest events possible. Unused real estate is a cost.

"Coloradotrv wrote:

Correct. That stadium was built from the ground up though. This is a renovation. We have to deal with what we can get. ATL went fancy to try and get a super bowl. It will probably work, but that was the intent of their stadium. Superbowls are events to be seen at now. They are not for the fans.

right..and in the long their team will suffer the consequences..and their owners will suffer in their pockets.

ill pose this question, does anyone think paul allen, sea hawk fans, pete carroll and the players would trade their venue for jerry world or this atlanta fluff? not even close..

heres the depressing thing, in todays markets, century link would cost an estimated 564 million dollars to replicate...

thats why yes I'm happy, but will never accept the ignorance and downright stupidity.

Seattle is also not trying to host a super bowl. Keep that in mind. They no with their climate they never will. The NFL has made it very clear what they expect out of their super bowl venues, that is where we are heading with our remodel.

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Dj.. How can you say just build it a football venue. First of all, the real money comes from hosting playoff games if I'm not mistaken. And football is a 4 month sport, Soccer is year round. If you look at when JRS was built, the design is fairly typical of that time. Again I use Gillette as an example. You are not right on top of anything in that stadium, yet look at their home record. The kind of money being spent, half a billion dollars, you have to get the biggest events possible. Unused real estate is a cost.

no, you can facilitate both sports in the type of venue i could design...Century link does it...Joe robbie just didn't have a clue, and obviously that ignorance continues to run rampid throughout the executive level.

i give some credit for our execs recognizing the problem finally, but with a little more they could rule the sports world.

Right, Seattle's climate limits them to what they can attract. seattle is not a four season destination city. Miami is. Ross would be insane to make a stadium with specs that only worked for the Dolphins. He's a Real Estate expert, I think I'll defer to him on this one.

"Coloradotrv wrote:

Seattle is also not trying to host a super bowl. Keep that in mind. They no with their climate they never will. The NFL has made it very clear what they expect out of their super bowl venues, that is where we are heading with our remodel.

that doesn't matter bro, the same objective could be accomplished..

"djphinfan wrote:

no, you can facilitate both sports in the type of venue i could design...Century link does it...Joe robbie just didn't have a clue, and obviously that ignorance continues to run rampid throughout the executive level.

i give some credit for our execs recognizing the problem finally, but with a little more they could rule the sports world.

Joe Robbie also built the stadium in a totally different era.

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Right, Seattle's climate limits them to what they can attract. seattle is not a four season destination city. Miami is. Ross would be insane to make a stadium with specs that only worked for the Dolphins. He's a Real Estate expert, I think I'll defer to him on this one.

whatta you talking about, I just said century link can facilitate football and soccer, so if we were to design with intimidation and intimacy as the main characteristics of the blueprint then what event wouldn't want to come.?...nothing I'm talking about deters any event from coming.

"Coloradotrv wrote:

Joe Robbie also built the stadium in a totally different era.

I know, the lack of understanding the concept goes way back..and obviously continues thru today, lol, even though theres a real solid business model that is flourishing right before their eyes...that fact just blows me a way and why i continue to call the suits dumasses.

VT, when I said football venue I was just using it like a metaphor, of course i would have everything from football to soccer, to monster truck, to concerts, and you know what, because of the design, every event that would showcase itself there, would be the best experience that particular event could possibly have..

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/miami-dolphins-sun-life-stadium-modernization-photos

theres some new photos there..wow, the sideline lower bowl from the 30 to the 30 is completely gone in one pic...like gone.