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Steven Jackson sign and trade in place...

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Paul 13, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    That's right, I have a sign and trade agreement in place for one Steven Jackson. Where I tag him, and then the team interested gives me compensation after he isn't signed. Just thought I'd let you guys know. BTW, this was the team's idea who is trading for him. their idea to let everyone know... no ****.
     
  2. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It's the Dolphins.

    **** y'all.
     
  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    no it's not.
     
  4. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Oh that's right... no it's not.

    I gotchya! :up:
     
  5. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Frankly, I'd get more in compensatory pick I'd imagine, what you think GIK?
     
  6. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Probably.
     
  7. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    how are those awarded anyway? exactly??
     
  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    By free agents (not cut players) who receive the highest contracts not with their original teams.
     
  9. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    No thanks. Can't wait until you cut him.
     
  10. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    He'd either tag or not tag Jackson.
     
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  11. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Last years list for compensatory picks:

    3A. New Orleans Saints - Marques Colston - $16.0M
    3B. Arizona Cardinals - Calais Campbell - $16.0M
    3C. Tennessee Titans - Cortland Finnegan - $15.5M
    4A. New Orleans Saints - Carl Nicks - $11.3M
    4B. Indianapolis Colts - Robert Mathis - $11.0M
    4C. Atlanta Falcons - Brent Grimes - $10.3M
    4D. Buffalo Bills - Demetrius Bell - $10.0M
    5A. Atlanta Falcons - John Abraham - $10.0M
    5B. Baltimore Ravens - Ben Grubbs - $9.5M
    5C. Washington Redskins - LaRon Landry - $9.0M
    5D. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeremy Mincey - $9.0M
    5E. San Francisco 49ers - Carlos Rogers - $8.5M
    6A. Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Spencer - $8.5M
    6B. New England Patriots - Mark Anderson - $7.5M
    6C. New York Giants - Mario Manningham - $7.5M
    6D. Green Bay Packers - Matt Flynn - $7.5M
    6E. Philadelphia Eagles - Evan Mathis - $7.0M
    7A. Atlanta Falcons - Thomas DeCoud - $7.0M
    7B. Tennessee Titans - Michael Griffin - $7.0M
    7C. Dallas Cowboys - Laurent Robinson - $6.75M
    7D. Cincinnati Bengals - Reggie Nelson - $6.5M
    7E. Houston Texans - Chris Myers - $6.0M
    7F. Green Bay Packers - Scott Wells - $6.0M
    7G. New Orleans Saints - Robert Meachem - $6.0M
    7H. Minnesota Vikings - EJ Henderson - $5.5M
    7I. Denver Broncos - Broderick Bunkley - $5.5M
    7J. Seattle Seahawks - Leroy Hill - $5.5M
    7K. Arizona Cardinals - Early Doucet - $5.5M
    7L. Seattle Seahawks - Marshawn Lynch - $5.4M
    7M. Buffalo Bills - Chad Rinehart - $5.25M
    7N. Baltimore Ravens - Jarrett Johnson - $5.0M
    7O. Washington Redskins - London Fletcher - $4.6M
     
  12. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Those numbers will get slaughtered this year. I fully expect levitre to get me a 3rd and Rinehart a 6 or 7.
     
  13. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    If you lose a transitioned tagged player, do they count towards compensatory picks?
     
  14. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I guess Laron Landry, Yeremiah Bell and Shonn Greene are my best bets to try and net me something.
     
  15. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    I don't think so as tags have their own rules.

    I am thinking of leaving Byrd as a 2 1sts tag. I would be happy either way.

    Or I might go the sign and trade route.
     
  16. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    well technically you are still losing a FA, you just happen to not want to pay him the extra 1-2 million as a franchised player and other teams still have to outbid others for their services. I think it would be a way to get some kind of compensation that wouldn't be 2 1sts.
     
  17. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    I also have Tashard Choice and Leodis McKelvin....outside shots though.
     
  18. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Levitre's not gonna get a 3rd.

    Transition and franchise players signed to new deals by other teams count.
     
  19. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    that doesn't make sense... particularly the franchise tagged players signing to new deals... you shouldn't receive comp picks for them since you are getting compensation anyway (since they are franchise tagged).... transition players though?
     
  20. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I concur. It could end up being 2 1sts and then a 3rd. Crazy.
     
  21. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Mach is on drugs... franchise + transition tag players don't receive any compensatory picks.
     
  22. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    You have 2 OL at the 4th last year. People are flush with cash and Levitre is arguably better then both those guys (#1 pff pass blocker at guard). I say 50/50 chance. Especially once the tags come in and take most of the prime guys off the board.
     
  23. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    You fell right into my trap.

    *ahem*

    Calm down.
     
  24. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    This part I was serious about. There's likely 1 3rd rounder, 1. There's no way the highest paid FA is going to be a frickin guard.
     
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  25. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Quiet, Koch lover.

    But yes, tagged players are no longer considered UFAs once they are tagged, thus are no longer part of the UFA compensatory process.
     
  26. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Shut up, Chris Kanyon.
     
  27. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    So how many comp picks are there this year?
     
  28. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    So what you're saying is... Since I traded Mike Vick who will go for 21mil in FA, I will get a 2nd round comp pick
     
  29. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    32.
     
  30. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    nope, he wasn't a UFA to start off with. Just a player that got cut. See the master free agent list.
     
  31. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    back under the bridge, troll.
     
  32. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Not the highest but within that group. Yup. Look at the deals negative rated OL got from the cut list. $4 mill plus. Teams have been neglecting their OL for a while now. I know of 2 guys right now who are prepared to spend big. If it weren't for the fact its cheaper to franchise Byrd and that I plan to spend at RT....I'd have franchised him.
     
  33. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Just kiddin man
     
  34. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    It is a small group of FA for that position so its possible he gets Nicks money, but then again people may have spent a good portion now during cut in terms of their set expenditures for guards. The Offensive tackles will bring in more money and push him down, especially with some of the names there. Throw in some possible WRs and CBs he could be 13-16th highest signed FA, I figure for his lowest comp pick value.
     
  35. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Get off my lawn.
    Real question.. And it's probably somewhere out there but I'm lazy. When do the comp picks count against your salary cap? As soon as their released?
     
  36. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    As soon as they're assigned to your team is my guess.
     
  37. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    *they're
     
  38. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    That's fine, but that won't get you a 3rd, which is where this discussion started, topic changer!
     
  39. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    What topic changer? You do realize there is more then 1 3rd right? I said WITHIN that group. Up to 4 3rds can be issued in any comp year. I could see him being in range. If I even let him get on the market. I may franchise him over Byrd.

    Seriously look at that list and tell me 3 guys who will get more cash? Once those tags are in.....OL is where the money will be spent.
     
  40. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    So, um, no. also, *than
     

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