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Well no ****.
The real gateway drug is being a teenager.
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but people never want to believe they are at fault. thats what the devil was created for. ignorant freedom from guilt.
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Can't have God without the devil.
And if we don't have God, then people will actually have to deal with their mortality and who wants that?FinSane, Frumundah Finnatic, DaFish and 1 other person like this. -
Logic fail
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the only true harmful gateway drug in this country, that's ruining society as we know it, is whippets. First, it gets you high..... then all of a sudden when you're coming down, it becomes a yummy condiment to put on top a hot fudge sunday.
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I love this! That is so damn true.
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i alsways thought it was alchohol/tobacco myself.the majority of people who smoke would not smoke it in front of thier kids yet popping a can of beer or having the young one fetch their ciggs from the kitchen counter they never think twice about.
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Doctors are the gateway to drugs :shifty:
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Given marijuana isn't physically addicting, I can't really see seeing it as a gateway drug. Having said that I can see someone experimenting with marijuana then moving on to harder stuff. That though I think has more to do with the person then marijuana.
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I know what you're saying, but I think politicians and the older generations just use that as a cop out. A lot of talking in circles, imo.
If weed is a gateway drug then what made people move onto weed?
Is coffee the gateway drug that leads to weed?
Does TV lead to alcohol which leads to coffee which leads to weed which leads to acid which...
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Well it would be hard to prove either way. But as I said I think while it can lead to more experimentation I don't think it is because of the marijuana itself. In other words if I go into something else from marijuana I'm either a) just chasing a high or b) there is something else wrong there. Either way I don't blame the marijuana itself since it is not physically addicting.
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If weed were legalized then it would make too much money, which would give the weed industry both power and a voice (and the resources/funds to influence others)..... and the weed industry having power and voice means that the current people with all the power and voice would have some of theirs taken away.... and the current people with all the power and voice don't want that. Orrrrrrr that could just be the acid talking.:mindwarp:
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Anyone who knows the history of Prohibition knows it's just a way for power to exercise their authority over the masses. What business is it of the state what I put in my body? As a country we don't care if you can find work or if you're healthy or if you can eat, but god damn if you smoke a joint. Something's gone wrong in a society when your prison population outnumbers your college educated population. Its no coincidence then that the war on drugs was stepped up at a time when the economy went to the crapper in the 70s and 80s and it continues to this day. Its really all connected, man.
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Its supposed to be. Its designed as a way to keep taxpayer money flowing to certain sectors of the economy and also as a way of funding illegal wars and secret military operations. No way itll ever end if so much of the economy depends on it. Banks need money from drug trafficking and money laundering to keep their deposits full. Lawyers need clients. Hospitals and care centers need patients. Bail bondsmen need customers. Private prisons need prisoners. Police need criminals. Politicians need votes from conservative, religious, pro-family values types to stay in office. The cycle will never end.
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If it wasn't for the prohibitation of Marijuana then the use of hard drugs would go down...
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In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.
There is no such a thing as a "gateway" drug. You are going to try something you're going to try it whether it be through peer pressure or other factors.
Just shut the **** up and legalize the **** Worldwide.
- Every guy currently in prison who is there strictly through possession/possession with intent to traffic/or cultivation and is not connected to organized crime and has no violence in his record or in his history should be released IMMEDIATELY (with supervision, same as a normal release to make sure prison did not lead them on to other things). That would clear out a LOT of cells so we can keep the hardened/violent offenders where they belong. An extension of this is the money save by the prison system just by the sheer fact that less people are locked up for non violent drug offenses connected to a drug that is non-violent.
- Legalize it and manage it like alcohol in Canada is managed. Put it in government run stores with the same state/provincial age limits currently on alcohol. I smoked a LOT of pot in high school. Why? It was easy to get. At any point in time I could get pot. Either by meeting someone (there was always a half dozen pot sellers in my small high school at one time) or by a simple phone call. It was ALWAYS 15 minutes away...and cheap. Getting alcohol was a pain in the ***. Managing it like alcohol would actually make it tougher for high schoolers to get.
- With it legal and managed my government, tax the HELL out of it. Sin taxes are always a nice revenue stream for government.
- With it legal you are creating new LEGAL business opportunities. You'd be creating jobs because you'd need people to grow, clip, package, market and sell the ****.
- "But you'll be creating new users". BULL ****! Just because something is available does not mean someone will do it. My Mother has never smoked pot in her 67 years on this Earth and she can get it whenever she wants. Anyone can get pot. People are not going to all of a sudden try it because it is available in a store.
- You'd be taking the mountain or resources police and government spend on battling the "pot war" and funneling them where they should be going, violent crime. Locking up people who should not be walking with the rest of us.
- You'd rip the heart out of organized crime. IF something is legally available and grown legally why is organized crime going to be involved anymore? Would it eliminate organized crime? Absolutely not, but it would remove a stream of business from them. Organized crime will always look for new cash streams, you'll never stop that. With that said, anytime you can kick them in the balls and make them reorganize you can take advantage of the chaos created by that.
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You mean the dozes of politicians who vote against things like Gay rights only to be found to be gay themselves. This is way off topic but what the ****? Who does that?
Who the **** cares if you're gay. Not me. It's not like you're ****ing me.
Some of the **** politicians do is just dumber than all hell.
If the person is an addict they are addict regardless of what it is. Some people are addicted to smores, hard candy, donuts etc. That leads to their fat *** driving up health care costs yet no one is outlawing Ho-Ho's and Ding Dong's.
Here's a gateway for you, kids with money and parents who don't give a **** because they are too busy. Money and free time; nothing dangerous there.ToddsPhins likes this.