subject/verb agreement

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anlgpanlgpNew MemberOP
Sep 15, 2009, 12:58 PM

I need help :lol:

The assignment is to make the subject and verbs agree. That makes sense. It has been a long time since I have had grammar and I needed to look up what a verb was ( :pity: ) so I do that

any member of a class of words that are formally distinguished in many languages, as in English by taking the past ending in -ed, that function as the main elements of predicates, that typically express action, state, or a relation between two things, and that (when inflected) may be inflected for tense, aspect, voice, mood, and to show agreement with their subject or object.

so here's the first sentence:

"Weinstein & Associates are a consulting firm that try to make businesspeople laugh."

I think laugh is the verb and businesspeople would be the subject.

Businesspeople is plural but if I were to use "laughs" it just doesn't make sense so I think this one is okay, but I'm not sure. We're only supposed to be changing the verb to make it agree w/the subject. If it is okay we're not supposed to change anything and just mark it "ok".

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 01:06 PM

"anlgp wrote:

I need help :lol:

The assignment is to make the subject and verbs agree. That makes sense. It has been a long time since I have had grammar and I needed to look up what a verb was ( :pity: ) so I do that

so here's the first sentence:

"Weinstein & Associates are a consulting firm that try to make businesspeople laugh."

I think laugh is the verb and businesspeople would be the subject.

Businesspeople is plural but if I were to use "laughs" it just doesn't make sense so I think this one is okay, but I'm not sure. We're only supposed to be changing the verb to make it agree w/the subject. If it is okay we're not supposed to change anything and just mark it "ok".

try is the verb and Weisntein & Assoc. is the subject. And they agree.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Sep 15, 2009, 01:10 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

try is the verb and Weisntein & Assoc. is the subject. And they agree.

thanks and i understand why.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 01:12 PM

They're trying to trip you up, because Associates is plural. However, Weinstein & Associates is a singular entity. The subject of the sentence is who the sentence is about. After reading it, ask yourself that very question: Who is this sentence about?

The verb would be the action of the subject. Laugh is not the action the subject is taking in this sentence, "try" is.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Sep 15, 2009, 01:14 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

They're trying to trip you up, because Associates is plural. However, Weinstein & Associates is a singular entity. The subject of the sentence is who the sentence is about. After reading it, ask yourself that very question: Who is this sentence about?

The verb would be the action of the subject. Laugh is not the action the subject is taking in this sentence, "try" is.

yeah.

but "laugh" is a verb right? :lol: it's just not the verb to the subject in this particular sentence?

so I suppose finding the subject is key. i was gonna just go off verbs but this will make it easier obviously.

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 01:18 PM

"anlgp wrote:

yeah.

but "laugh" is a verb right? :lol: it's just not the verb to the subject in this particular sentence?

so I suppose finding the subject is key. i was gonna just go off verbs but this will make it easier obviously.

Correct.

It always made it easier for me. Good luck!:up:

DaFishDaFishforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 03:13 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

They're trying to trip you up, because Associates is plural. However, Weinstein & Associates is a singular entity. The subject of the sentence is who the sentence is about. After reading it, ask yourself that very question: Who is this sentence about?

The verb would be the action of the subject. Laugh is not the action the subject is taking in this sentence, "try" is.

Isn't "make" also part of a prepositional phrase excluding it from being the verb.

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 03:22 PM

"DaFish wrote:

Isn't "make" also part of a prepositional phrase excluding it from being the verb.

Yes it is. A preposition explains the verb to a more specific detail.

I learned it by using, "A squirrel runs_______" fill in the blank with things like:

- to a tree
- around a tree
- through the tree
- over the tree

etc.

pennphinfanpennphinfanforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 05:17 PM

I'm not sure I fully agree here..
Shouldn't the beginning of the sentence read: "Weinstein and Associates is a consulting firm that tries..." ?

Weinstien and Associates is a subject, but it's singular, so try doesn't agree with it, it would have to be tries. "are a consulting firm that" would be an appositive phrase, and if Weinstein and associates is singular, "are" would have be be the singular, which would be "is"...

I suppose out of context it is harder. If say, it said, "David Weinstein and his associates are a consulting firm" that would be okay, but it to me sounds like "Weinstein and Associates" is the name of a company, and therefore should use 'is'

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 09:30 PM

You're right.

I got so caught up in explaining the stuff I overlooked that. Hahahahahaha. I'm an idiot.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Sep 15, 2009, 09:39 PM

Regardless of if the wording is right or not for this assignment all we had to do was make the S and V agree.

Which we didn't even go over :tantrum:

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Sep 15, 2009, 10:54 PM

"anlgp wrote:

Regardless of if the wording is right or not for this assignment all we had to do was make the S and V agree.

Which we didn't even go over :tantrum:

Penn is right though.

It should be tries and not try.

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Sep 15, 2009, 11:01 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

Penn is right though.

It should be tries and not try.

oh for the first answer?

"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl

DrAstroZoomDrAstroZoomluxury_box
Sep 15, 2009, 11:07 PM

Technically, there are multiple verbs pertaining to the subject here, and both must agree.

The correct construction is ""Weinstein & Associates is a consulting firm that tries to make businesspeople laugh."

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