I don't blame the failures of the last few years on Suh at all. But the signing was an example of what not to do in the future.

 

I don't really see how there would be. The problem was Tannenbaum. I have never seen a team built around an interior defensive tackle. Additionally, what we paid him was absurd.

As far as FA signings go, he played well, but again, what we paid him made it almost impossible to fulfill expectations. If we had him at even close to a reasonable cap number, I am confident that he would still be on the team.

 

He seemed like he always had a good relationship with Steve Ross and did his business entrepreneur seminars and stuff with wake if i remember correctly. Do you think he would want to come back to the phins if he wins his ring with the rams seeing as how we have a new defensive minded staff? No TBam and no Gase, same ross, Grier and a new defensive coach...maybe?

 

We wouldn't want to pay him what he'll get, and given that we're at the very start of a full on rebuild, it would be a foolish move to sign anyone to a big deal like that.

 

Suh was never a real problem. He played about as expected from the position. Problem is it was too much money for the position. I don't care who the player is, that position is not worth THAT much money when you're building a team.

 

He should send Gase and Ross a box of chocolates...Thanks for letting me go to the Super Bowl!

 

Why should he apologize for all that money?

 

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that he appologize for anything. I think that Dundee was saying he should be grateful that he's playing on the best team in the league instead of being a part of our mess.

 

The Suh signing was an interesting roll of the dice based upon perception rather than realistic expectation. He had a rep (and film) as the most dominant and more importantly, disruptive force of nature the DT spot had ever seen. It’s possible he could have been worth every penny if he was blowing up lineman for pressure and tackles for loss every fourth play. Look at the Packers and Reggie White or imagine signing Bruce Smith in his prime. Unfortunately, he was just an elite DT and not a once in a generation freak while here. I don’t blame them one bit for trying, nor for moving on.

 

Sportrac estimates the market value for his next contract should be $9.3m/year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/ndamukong-suh-6511/market-value/

 

I will be extremely disappointed if we sign any outside player to a contract anywhere near that average value this offseason.

 

I'm extremely disappointed that we couldn't keep him for $9M a year.

 

Why would he be mad at us releasing him? He's playing for a ring. Meanwhile, some here still debate whether bringing Tannehill back under center is a good idea.

 

That was one guy I didn't want to see go. Losing both him and Landry hurt me personally as a fan, but it is what it is at this point. Can't worry about what was. Hopefully Suh is a major contributor towards the Rams winning the Super Bowl.

 

uh even an offensive lineman? that's about what it takes to get the better free agents, the ones that are still pretty young. or am I supposed to have trust that Grier can find some gems in the middle rounds?

I'd give that type of money to a Daryl Williams....maybe even a Trent Brown.

 

• No, beyond a long term contract extension for Tunsil, I don't want to sign any overpriced linemen this year, with the possible exception of what needs to be done to retain J. James. I don't see any of the younger ones as being worth the cost and investment, and the older ones likely will have lost the skills and value by the time that the rest of the team catches up in a few years, even if everything goes well. Better to draft and develop our own for now, then look at it again in a year.

 

Trey Flowers DE would be a great signing, he'll be 26 next season and would provide us with some much needed youth at DE.

 

They are still snacking on the giant box they got from Ajayi

 

James could be an overpriced lineman the second he puts pen to paper. The guys I named are better tackes. How are we supposed to build up the trenches without spending some money, you could argue every starter on the OL outside of Tunsil needs to be replaced. On defense we’ll probably need 2 DE’s, maybe 3, and at least one more DT, we can’t fix the lines with just the draft alone

 

We cant fix everything in 2019, of course. It will make several years, even if everything goes to plan.

This coming season is going to suck. I've chosen to just accept that, and decide that any money spent in 2019 is basically wasted. Better to save it for later, which is very possible with cap rollover.

 

Since this is a Suh thread, I'll just say that I'll be sad if he doesn't rupture Brady's testicles on a ridiculous sack tomorrow. Go Rams!

 

Yeah, I'm dreading it as well. I think this is the first time EVER that I wasn't excited for an NFL season. Maybe that changes over the next 7-8 months (I hope it does), but for now I'm not planning on watching football next year.

 

Yea, this is the first time since Shula retired that they are going to be "NOT" trying to build a playoff team in the offseason.

 

Well, you couldn't pay me to stop watching the NFL and the Fins. I'd rather watch them go 0-16 than spend every Sunday on a vacation somewhere. Its important to me.

I think that this will be the year that I go into the whole process with the lowest of expectations, from day one. 2004 went south really fast, but I still had expectations up until Ricky quit.

I would say that my lowest expectations, starting in January, were those for 2000 after Dan and Jimmy retired, and I still had the taste of 62-7 in my mouth. I really figured that 2000 would be a five or six win rebuilding and transition year, that the offense needed to be built from the ground up, and then we'd see how 2001 looked. Of course, the team then went on to have its best defensive season since the early 70s, and that combined with a weak division was enough for eleven wins despite the limited talent on offense. However, that surprising season also might have slowed down or flat out stopped what should have been an urgent need to inject talented offensive players into the club, and we all know what happened during the next draft....

My expectations for 2005 and 2008 were also fairly low, but in each case we had a big name guy taking over the franchise, and there was a lot of built in excitement for that, even though I was uneasy about them. This time, we've got zilch coming on board, so that just isn't there this time. My expectations are at the very, very bottom.

 

Wanna fix out defense? You don’t need high priced ends you need capable ends and you need some great linebackers!!! If we can keep Xavier we will be good at corner as well with what we have. The sentence isn’t that far off talent wise!

 

Do you live in South Florida? I would definitely still watch/listen for free- I just can't see paying $350+ for the Sunday Ticket when the team is saying they're not going to try and compete. I'm guessing ticket sales will be down for the same reason. Who knows though? Luke Falk has some talent and maybe he'll shock us all. I would love to be wrong on the team- I'm just not feeling it now.

I'll tell you what would get me excited though- if we start trading back in the draft and loading up on picks for 2020.

 

No, I live in central Virginia. I subscribed to Sunday Ticket from 2005-2016, but I don't have DirecTV anymore, so I go to a sports bar most Sundays now. This is the last year that the NFL has a contract with DirecTV though, and with AT&T admitting that they're killing DirecTV, I'm crossing my fingers that the Ticket is available on other platforms starting in 2020. If it is, I'll be back in.

But I absolutely want to watch every snap of every game of every season. Living through the hard times will make the good times even sweeter when they get here.

 

Aah, gotcha. I guess I could try the sports bar scene- there are actually a lot of Dolphin fans here in the western parts of South Carolina somehow. I've paid for the Sunday Ticket for about 10 years in a row and all I watch is the Dolphins- I'd love to see a program where you could watch just one team for $49-99...then it would be a no-brainer.

Is Direct TV going out? That's crazy- they updated their menus last week! I've been thinking about canceling that as well just because the cost keeps going up and up. If I lived in an area with great internet I'd just get Hulu & Netflix, stream it on my TV's and be done with it.

 

LOL!

 

AT&T isn't going to support the satellites any longer, and expect the system to be dead within five years. They've admitted that they bought it in order to gradually kill it, basically in an attempt to get those customers to switch to their other services. Its really dirty, and is going to leave people who don't have access to broadband out in the cold. I built a new house last year and have access to Comcast now, thankfully.

I don't enjoy going to the bar every week. They unfortunately only put one game on with sound, and the rest are on mute, but it is what it is. I do what I can until something better is there.

 

Well, 5G is going to make broadband extinct in the next 2-3 years (they'll stop running cable this year), so hopefully they keep Direct TV alive at least that long. The real question is whether or not they make 5G affordable and truly unlimited like they're promising- AT&T has already been called on fake 5G with hard data caps. I think that's why the market needs competition to prevent the big two from monopolizing on us.

LOL, T-Mobile is the nation's best friend for severely undercutting everyone else and forcing them to compete.

 

I don't honestly understand the differences between 4g and 5g, but from what I've read, AT&T has a plan to roll out a TV service based on 5G coverage. What that means with usage and data is beyond me, but thats their plan as the DirecTV replacement.

That still leaves people who live in rural areas out in the cold though. Anyone with a clear view of the sky can get satellite, but you have to live near a tower to get cell coverage.

 

5G is an entirely new concept- basically every home that received signal would serve as a "mini-booster" for the general area. The signal broadcasts out approximately 6-8 miles from the main tower in all directions (depending on geography), then the boosters extend it another 1,000 yards or so with no signal loss. So if you had 40 miles of houses straight down a country road, all would have perfect signal off that original tower as long as every 4th or 5th house was a subscriber. Of course, AT&T can add their own mini-boosters in some areas as well to cover gaps. It's unofficially called "small cell" internet.

From what they're saying, trees or weather won't make a huge difference in signal....so rural folks should benefit from this the most.

The other difference is that 5G is approximately 10x faster with very low latency. Verizon's initial 5G is delivering an average of 300 MB/s download and they expect to at least double that before their roll-out nationwide. That's actually faster than satellite TV signals so there's no need for cable or Direct TV anymore...we can just stream everything (you could download a full movie in 1080 resolution in under 10 seconds). DSL will be history as well as soon as 5G is affordable enough to edge it out (likely early to mid 2020). Very few companies are laying fiber anymore since 5G will be so much cheaper to implement.

Because of the speeds and minimal costs, a lot we do will move to the cloud and our homes will start having "smart everything" in the next few years. Want to brew a cup of coffee in the kitchen from your bed? No problem, there's an app for that. We'll be updating all sorts of household items as the new versions tie into our smartphones...it's called the Internet of Things (IoT) and it's going to get ridiculous very fast.

Soon you'll be able to pilot you lawnmower from your living room like it's a drone- and it will memorize the route for next time on it's own w/ on-board cameras to avoid stuff laying around the yard (the same tech in new cars). Cool toys galore are on their way!

 

What would get me most excited is if Ross sells the team.