Tannehill on Philbin: "Obviously it doesn't feel good. Creates a stir/distraction...

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

I'm not sure why it's so inconceivable that Philbin knew he had a meeting with his coaches the following day to discuss whether Tannehill would continue to start, which made the issue uncertain, and simply communicated that uncertainty to the media.

Tannehill on the other hand should be saying something like, "well with the way I've been playing, I'm not surprised it's an issue -- it'll be up to me to go out there and get onto more solid ground with my head coach." Instead, Tannehill's talking about what Philbin is doing.

Because what the head coach is doing, is incredibly stupid. See my post above.

It's quite obvious the players are turning on Philbin. Tannehill's speaking out helps to confirm that. He's done nothign in the media by say the right things in his 3 years here, and now he's turning on the coach and stating his displeasure just as many other players apparently have in the locker room based on the reporting we see/hear.

If Philbin knew he was having a meeting later in the day to discuss the QB, when asked the question about who's starting his only response should have been "At this point in time Ryan is our starter, but we continue to evaluate each postion each week" DONE. Problem solved. No unnecessary controversy. Then if later in the day, or week they decide to change, he simply just makes a statement saying at this point in time we believe Ryan needs some time to further process the offense, and we're turning to Matt Moore at this time as we believe he gives us a better chance to win right now.

Done. Problem solved. Quick. Clean, nobody thrown under the bus.

Apparently that concept is too hard for our head coach to grasp.

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

Folks, the "distraction" for the team is already there. It's called "your QB isn't playing anywhere near well enough for the team to win." The fact that the head coach simply calls attention to it publicly doesn't make it any more a distraction.

The flame has been lit, Philbin added fuel.

The fact that the head coach calls attention to it publicly does create more of a distraction

"schmolioot wrote:

Rex Ryan, a far superior head coach to Philbin, had this exact same thing happen this week.

His response, "Geno Smith is our starter and all the players believe in him" And Geno Smith has to be on a shorter leash than Tannehill

Why???

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

Folks, the "distraction" for the team is already there. It's called "your QB isn't playing anywhere near well enough for the team to win." The fact that the head coach simply calls attention to it publicly doesn't make it any more a distraction.

Your blinding hate/waanbe expert/ whatever is blinding you is ridiculous. Philbin is a joke, you don't air dirty laundry in the media. To blame THIS on tannehill shows a clear bias on your part

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Why???

Less invested in him. Probably not as much natural ability.

"finyank13 wrote:

Who?

Kevin Coyle and Mark Duffner, pretty easily.

Coyle sucks, he should go with philbin

"Disgustipate wrote:

Kevin Coyle and Mark Duffner, pretty easily.

If the reporting about the player gripes with Coyle are accurate then that would be a disaster.

If this does happen, I'd go with Kacy Rodgers. Not only is he the longest tenured, and probably most universally respected coach we have, but (and I hate to say this) his being black gives you a quick way to satisfy the Rooney Rule so you can go full bore after Harbaugh/Malzahn imemdiately

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

The flame has been lit, Philbin added fuel.

The fact that the head coach calls attention to it publicly does create more of a distraction

As I see it, he was the one who struck the match, then put the flame on the bundle of trash newspaper, then threw in some more newspaper, and then decided to get a can of gasoline.

I get that maybe he wanted to maintain some consistency in how he answers questions, and maybe he wanted to make some broader point to his team about how the quarterback is accountable like everyone else, but after the story blew up you think he would at least try to put things out...

Coyle is a pretty good coach. I'm not sure of the nature of the complaints from this last game, but he's one of the few coaches on the roster I'd actually want to be considered for retention next year.

"schmolioot wrote:

If the reporting about the player gripes with Coyle are accurate then that would be a disaster.

If this does happen, I'd go with Kacy Rodgers. Not only is he the longest tenured, and probably most universally respected coach we have, but (and I hate to say this) his being black gives you a quick way to satisfy the Rooney Rule so you can go full bore after Harbaugh/Malzahn imemdiately

He's got no experience ever being a coordinator, even at any level. He's always been a DL coach.

"Disgustipate wrote:

He's got no experience ever being a coordinator, even at any level. He's always been a DL coach.

So?

You don't need to be a coordinator to be a head coach. Especially an interim head coach. You're better off leaving the coordinators be, let them continue what their doing without adding the additional responsibility. Rodgers has a lot less responsibility during the week.

"schmolioot wrote:

So?

You don't need to be a coordinator to be a head coach. Especially an interim head coach. You're better off leaving the coordinators be, let them continue what their doing without adding the additional responsibility. Rodgers has a lot less responsibility during the week.

I shouldn't say you have to be a coordinator, but I think you need a broader range of experiences than being an defensive line coach. That's about as singularly focused a job as there is. You basically have no working responsibilities with the passing game. You don't coach or defend against the passing game.

"finyank13 wrote:

...:pity:..........circus....

Wait, when did Philbin trash Tannehill to the media? That never happened.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I shouldn't say you have to be a coordinator, but I think you need a broader range of experiences than being an defensive line coach. That's about as singularly focused a job as there is. You basically have no working responsibilities with the passing game. You don't coach or defend against the passing game.

For a permanent head coach, I probably agree with you (though 49ers DL coach Jim Tomsula has gotten looks in the past, so did Jim Washburn)

But we're talking about an interim coach, who simply needs to grab the respect of the players and figure out when to call timeout or when to challenge. Let the coordinators do their jobs.

"SICK wrote:

Philbin really sucks.

Last 5 game segment really sucks . Not the right direction is it?

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

Folks, the "distraction" for the team is already there. It's called "your QB isn't playing anywhere near well enough for the team to win." The fact that the head coach simply calls attention to it publicly doesn't make it any more a distraction.

No, but it adds to it, duh.
Do you need help with math here? 1 distraction + 0 distraction = 1 distraction. 1 distraction + 1 distraction = 2 distractions.
While the Dolphins are busy playing woefully and are in need of turning things around, they need less distractions, not fuel added to the fire. Logic, who needs it.

Really..if its just an interim HC..and just needs to have a clue about TOs / Challenges..etc..why not choose the person most likely to motivate the players. Why can NBA teams hire players with no head coaching experience to be head coaches.

Why not make someone like Jason Taylor interim HC?

Is there something about football he doesnt know? Its unconventional..why not?

Maybe youd loose the Coordinators after that..I dunno. NBA does it..why not?

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

Folks, the "distraction" for the team is already there. It's called "your QB isn't playing anywhere near well enough for the team to win." The fact that the head coach simply calls attention to it publicly doesn't make it any more a distraction.

Fine..but please explain why we have come out flat 4 of the last 5 games..and gotten smoked...thats not just QB man. I know thats your answer..switch QB and all will be peachy

Before we all go jumping to conclusions wouldn't it be nice to know exactly what was asked of Tannehill and entire answer.

"ToddPhin wrote:

1 distraction + 0 distraction = 1 distraction. 1 distraction + 1 distraction = 2 distractions.

What evidence is there that the players on the whole have experienced this as a distraction, rather than perhaps an inspiration?

"schmolioot wrote:

Rex Ryan, a far superior head coach to Philbin, had this exact same thing happen this week.

His response, "Geno Smith is our starter and all the players believe in him" And Geno Smith has to be on a shorter leash than Tannehill

Philbin has had several chances to show us how good a coach he is and has failed epically with the 2 divisional games last year and then the exact same beating in Buffalo this season. Ryan gets a lot more from an overall inferior team, how they finished with the same record after the beating we gave them in NY says it all !!!

"VManis wrote:

Before we all go jumping to conclusions wouldn't it be nice to know exactly what was asked of Tannehill and entire answer.

Ryan was asked if its a distraction and he said yes..and he wished it was handled differently.

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

What evidence is there that the players on the whole have experienced this as a distraction, rather than perhaps an inspiration?

Well..theres evidence of that..all I can say

"Dolphans Unite! wrote:

What evidence is there that the players on the whole have experienced this as a distraction, rather than perhaps an inspiration?

Barry Jackson @flasportsbuzz · 26m Matt Moore, asked if this whole thing is awkward: "A little bit, considering I'm answering questions like Cam Newton."