Tannehill to remain starter. So let's just get over it.

out of curiosity do you watch football on a tv or a calculator

 

Counselor, you need to post to links to something to back that first statement up for Rock.

And I'm not sure it's completely accurate either. Perhaps in the first 2 games. The Browns have a better than advertised Defense and Front seven.

But yes, the left side with the dreadlock twins was terrible, but James play this season has been atrocious all on it's own and Bushrod isn't good, he just isn't Turner or Thomas bad. Foerster hasn't done a good job with this unit at all. Only Steen for 2.5 games and Pouncey on Sunday hasn't given up a sack.

All said though, it would be hard to have any QB under more pressure than Tannehill the past 2 games, but if Albert can manage avoid food poisoning while down at the Golden Corral and Tunsil can get a handicap accessible room at the team hotel, maybe they'll both play this week and we'll have a chance to at least compete.

 

TV.. (have Sunday Ticket just for the Fins!)

 

I would have bet it looked like the Matrix. Good for you.

 

have plenty of tissues around. that show is a real tear jerker

 

He's not "the" problem. He's part of the problem.

 

Thanks cbrad! Doin his work for him.

 

I agree with whomever said, "Tannehill is part of the problem." And more importantly, he is NOT part of the solution.

He has 11 games left as Miami Dolphin. I wish him well here for these last two and half months. I then look forward to turning the page to hopefully find a QB that can lead a team, get coached up and developed, have a decent OLine, and win games for the Fins. Unfortunately, its too late for any of that with Ryan Tannehill. In reality, I see him as a career backup that could do fine for one or two games, but is a disaster for an entire season. Its not his fault we picked him in the first round and made him the miserable face of this franchise.

 

I think this sums it up. While he's not the biggest problem we have here, he's most definitely part of the problem. He doesn't do enough to sense pressure and escape before things get too bad, he's still staring down WR's, he's missing open guys and reads, he's missing throws behind WR's on crossing patterns. The OL and lack of a running game are huge problems, but the play of the QB isn't the best either.

I suspect that while he remains the starter because there is nobody else worth playing at this point and an evaluation has to be made. If things don't get better, There's definitely a chance he sits down eventually if things don't improve, or as I said previously, if something drastic happens like he blows us a game with a turnover, or has a turnover meltdown later in the year.

Ultimately, Gase is going to keep playing him until he's seen enough to decide one way or another if he's keeping him next year or moving on. Personally, I dont care if thats after the end of the season, or closer to the end of the season. Because he's not the main problem, and gase was brought here to fix him, he's got to spend enough time with him to see if he's worth keeping. When that evaluation is done, then so may Ryan's time as starter.

 

so why is it that Luck can be sacked 5 times in a game, throw for 300 plus yards 2 TD's and lead his team to victory>?

 

I wonder if Gase has the ego to admit he can't fix Tannehill since he (Gase) is the QB "guru"

 

When his job may, and will ultimately depend on it, I'm sure he will. Would you rather be tied to a QB you don't believe in after this year, or be tied to a new one that can become your own project.

 

He's not part of the problem. He's the solution to our decades long QB quest once we build a NFL quality offense for him to run

 

Cause he's playing scrubs, been in the same system for years and has better weapons

 

Quite the opposite IMO... Gase is not tied to Tannehill. That was Joe Philbin and the FO. Gase could easily go to Ross and say that Tannehill sucks and we need to move on. From all that's been said by Gase and Ross, Gase has carte blanche when it comes to Tannehill. There's no way he'd have taken this HC gig if he couldn't get a mulligan on an inherited player.

Gase is trying to put the team in position to improve, but the biggest problem is the sh*tty roster and Gase has been pretty blunt about it. The roster sucks and the OL depth has been garbage. He's wanting to see if Tannehill can prevail in a sink or swim situation, so that he knows for certain whether he can win with Tannehill or not, but now knows that he can't make an honest evaluation until we have some decent blocking from the OL. That's one of the reasons Gase stays so frustrated. Instead of being able to go out and execute his offense and gauge how well Tannehill can play, he's having to deal with constant injury issues all over with this POS team while not having adequate depth to function.

 

I have been wondering that too - especially after his recent presser where he was absolutely defiant in the face of any Tannehill criticisms. He was prematurely anointed the QB whisperer and there's a chance that takes on a life of its own.

 

You misunderstood what I was saying. I said, he will get over this ego thing that people are assuming he has when he realized that if he's not good enough, and he keeps him, his fate is tied to him.

That's what I'm saying. If he keeps Tannehill out of stubbornness that he can fix him and his own "ego" as a QB guy, and it doesn't pan out, he's very much tied to him at that point. That's why I said, he's got a choice to make this year. Hes either hitching himself to Tannehill, or hitching himself to a new QB.

IMO, to think Gase has the luxury of this year keeping Tannehill, and he still doesn't pan out as an NFL QB that he's got a mulligan after tying the franchise to him for the big cash kicking in after this season, that's pretty foolish IMO. That's why this is make or break for Tannehill this year. Personally, Gase's decision this season/offseason is to decide on his solution at QB. He's either hitching himself to Tannehill, or someone new next season. So, yes, if he chooses to keep Ryan after this year and it doesn't work, he's very much tied to him and his job security will depend on it, because then he's failed twice. First at fixing Ryan, second, at improving the team as it's coach because if Ryan doesn't get fixed, what we see now, is what we're going to keep getting probably.

That's the point I was making. If Ross & company decide to sink Gase along with Tannehill for this season alone, then they're all fools. Ultimately, I see it going two ways. 1. Ryan gets fixed, stays. 2. Gase bails on Tannehill and they get somebody new for him that he's then tied to. However, if Gase sticks with Tannehill next year too, he's tied to him IMO. So, he should be realizing, or already have realized that his decision on Tannehill is who he's tying himself to IMO

 

Absolutely, sir.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/indianapolis-colts-andrew-luck-ryan-grigson-chuck-pagano

This was before London game. Are you ready for this.

http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-be...ion-or-not-bears-respect-colts-qb-andrew-luck

And a little more

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...in-they-need-to-start-protecting-andrew-luck/




I'm too lazy to go and work that out per dropback because I know the Dolphins haven't ran that many plays, but the Colts are up there.

 

On top of this, Pagano insists on running a vertical passing scheme. Not short dinks and dunks. He's set up to fail, but so far ... is doing okay.

 

Philip Rivers continues to amaze me. Doesn't matter how bad his O-line is or the M.A.S.H. unit he plays with on offense - he still deals and the games are competitive. This is a man who relies on stepping and sliding around the pocket like Danny did without a shred of athleticism.

 

I would rather have my own guy, but I am not known nor was I hired because I am the QB guru.

 

As opposed to he could be right

 

I agree. He's an elite QB who is viewed as merely good. San Diego robbed him of being seen the equal or superior to Rodgers, Brady, roethslisberger. We'll never quite know what he could have done on a championship team

 

Dude he is failing. That's why they have to fire pagano

 

The Colts should hire a really good OL coach.

 

Yeah, despite so many in the media hyping up the 2012 draft for QB's because of Luck and RG3, it's looking like it was the 2004 draft with Eli, Roethlisberger and Rivers that was maybe the best QB draft in recent memory - obviously #1 all-time is probably the 1983 draft with Marino, Elway and Kelly, but maybe 2004 is #2 overall.

 

I watched two colts games this year (jags was one of them) to compare his line to ours the past three weeks is a joke. Ours is in another class of suck. His is bad but normal bad. Ours is historical bad. It may be a decade before you see such ineptitude again on a NFL field

 

I agree with that. 84 hands down is the best but 2004 was second.

 

I find it shocking that people are still wasting their time talking about this team.

 

It's what die-hard fans do.

 

I do believe he could almost be as good as Big Ben, but not Rodgers or Brady. He's really good though. He's always around the 2nd tier in my book. Ahead of Romo, behind the likes of Brees and Ben.

 

Tennessee belongs in one of the worst games ever. But Ryan has had some okay blocking depending on the quarter.

 

All the important metrics disagree in regards to the Colts. That Jags game was abysmal, particularly in the 1st half. The mere fact they were in the game was due only to Luck himself.

 

On 18 drop backs he was sacked 6 times. That's an average of every 3rd drop back and what, 4 dropbacks a qtr? He was also hit and pressured constantly and the OL was caved in more times than not. Which qtr was it, you're referring to?

Or maybe I've misunderstanding and you're referring to Matt Ryan, who has the best OL this season he's ever had?

Falcons have ALL-World Center Alex Mack. Jake Matthews and Ryan Schraeder (undrafted) are one of the better LT/RT duos in the league.

Was hoping a couple seasons ago we'd dump an over rated Pouncey and sign Mack when Cleveland was having one of their tri-annual team dumpster fire sales.

 

sorry. its not even close

to what tannehill had to deal with vs cincy and tennessee

 

You had a graph in the quote you replied to and you still are claiming this?

That's it. You aren't being serious and are laughing at all of us for replying to your posts.

Well played.


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Umm, I thought it was pretty clear I singled out Tennessee as one of the worst games, of all time, in the NFL, and was talking about their other games.

 

You're insane. Luck was sacked 6 times in that Jags game.

They're starting three rookies along the O-line for crying out loud.

 

I'm convinced prez is just messing with us