Tannenbaum says Dolphins will make responsible decision on Wallace

That is not the rule.

 

It wasn't a catch:

http://static.nfl.com/static/conten...pdfs/11_Rule8_ForwardPass_BackPass_Fumble.pdf

 

It depends, doesn't it? I think the catch was already made, and he made a football move. You are saying the going to the ground was still part of the catch. That is where we differ.

 

Agree to disagree. That call was consistent with all calls made in that regard during the season, and last season and the season before and the season since that weird Calvin Johnson catch.

 

I think he took two steps and lunged for the end zone.

 

Either way, it was one hell of an effort and something we don't see here.

 

that's the way I saw it.

So did Howie Long.

 

He lunged to the endzone while going to the ground. It is all the process of the catch.

He should have secured the catch.

 

I saw it that way as well. However, knowing the rules and how they work in the NFL, I know it is not a catch.

Be mad at the rule, not the ref.

 

IMO, parts A and B happened, but not part C... you are basically defining a catch as if only A and B had to happen. Going to the ground is a part of the catch, as I posted before.

 

Nice, the Broncos game starts with an Aerosmith montage!

Greatest American Rock and Roll band of all time!

 

Lets go Colts! Would love to see a Russell vs Luck SB! The 2 best young cerebral QB's squaring off in the big game!

 

He lost it, got it again, and lost it. The "football move" would have been hitting the ground and retaining possession through hitting the ground.

 

Tis true, but you think the organization would be a little sympathetic and perhaps even a little lenient considering Marshall had just learned about his disorder, made the organization aware of it, and told them he was focused on working on his behavior and such now that he realizes there's an underlying condition causing him to be that way.

If I coached the team and Marshall came to me with this, I'd be like, "This is incredibly admirable of Brandon and takes a lot of guts to do what he's doing, so I think it's in Miami's best interest to send a message to our team, to the NFL, and to Brandon himself that his praiseworthy desire to become a better man, a better husband, and a better Miami Dolphin has earned his stay in Miami, and we'll stand behind him and support him through it for as long as he remains dedicated, focused, and a responsible Miami Dolphin." The way Philbin handled it lends the impression he might not be the classiest of individuals. Then again, this is the same guy who hopped into bed with Aponte to get Ireland ousted, the same guy who'd rather immediately trade Miami's most talented defender rather than help coach him up into a mature, responsible adult.

 

Please. That dude nothing but a cancer, he has proved it time after time. They did the right thing.

 

Is it your opinion that Brandon Marshall is a mature, responsible adult now?

 

On another side note, I'd take Hakeen Nicks.

He can make that tough catch in traffic.

 

Hakeem Nicks basically had the same year that Brian Hartline did.

Nicks was working with Andrew Luck however on a team that throws the ball A LOT.

I don't know what is wrong with Nicks, but something seems to be out of place with that guy.

 

He has never recovered from those injuries it seems, he used to have some explosiveness (was never fast) but even that is gone it seems.

And Nicks has played a much lesser role than BH....not sure he started one game.

 

He was the 4th option on that team. He would be at worst #2 on Dolphins.

 

Okay, wasn't sure what Nicks' deal was.


Starter or not they're basically identical. Hartline had a few more yards and Nicks had a couple more TDs

38 catches on 69 targets for 405 yards and 4 TDs.

39 catches on 63 targets for 474 yards and 2 TDs.

 

Except one of those guys was a starter and one wasn't.

 

What?!

 

Wayne and Hilton are the starters, Nicks isn't.

 

Nicks played 424 passing snaps, Hartline 490. They had as identical production per route run as you can get.

The starting distinction isn't really relevant, basically all it means is Hartline was on the field in running situations.

 

How many did Wayne get?

 

Neither WR is going to give you a whole lot of production these days...Hartline could be a solid #2 option if he signs with the right team.

 

Agreed.

Since Wallace and Landry seem to be the primary targets in Bill Lazor's system...what kind of WR should we be hoping to have in Hartline's position? Most people would say "big red zone target" but that's not the whole story. And if that is the case, why didn't we see the team use Matthews more often?

I'm just not sure what to make of Bill Lazor's offense. He basically put up the same passing game numbers as did Sherman but did it by distributing the ball less.

What does that mean for us as a team?

 

We didscore way more points. That's worth remembering

 

I don't know about saying we scored "way more." We scored 3.6 more points per game to be technical.

Depends on how you look at it. We had a more talented roster:

Branden Albert replaced Bryant McKinnie
Ju'wann James replaced Tyson Clabo
Samson Satele replaced John Jerry (sort of)

We also added Jarvis Landry and Damien Williams

Ryan Tannehill (at least statistically) remained largely the same.

I don't know if 3.6 more points per game is a reflection of Lazor or just the simple addition a few more talented players and the slow maturation of a young QB.

 

I'm all for getting the ball into our playmakers hands, Hartline was such a non factor this year that replacing his production would certainly be as easy as replacing him with Rishard. However I feel like we need to draft a young WR to assume the role (WRs are making impacts right away in some cases) and he likely takes over for Wallace in 2016.

I'm still holding out hope Philbin made SUCH an impression on Randal Cobb that he WANTS to come to Miami for a less than market contract. Pipe dream I know, but then again this team being in the playoffs before im 40 likely is too.

 

Well, as I'm sure you know Green Bay has a history of drafting WRs that fall out of the 1st round so they have talent but they don't reach or overpay for it. The fact we seemed to have done the same thing last year with the acquisition of Jarvis Landry is a good thing. I'm not sure that Landry has the size and speed to last 10-12 years in the NFL but he's certainly someone who can thrive in this offense.

If we could execute that 2nd round plan again, I think we'd be in good shape--particularly if we could come away with a player that is physically bigger than Jarvis Landry. As you point out, it would allow us to get rid of Hartline, save ourselves the money of that contract and not worry about cutting Wallace later on down the road.

In regards to making the playoffs, I think the offense is coming together but Tannehill has to improve. He's still the limiting factor I think. We need improvements in the big play, the deep ball, the pocket awareness and mobility--all that stuff. I'd really like to see him surpass 30 TDs next year. 25 a year is okay, but it certainly leaves something to be desired.

 

Had 27 and 5 certain TDs dropped this year. Which would have been 32. A huge improvement.

 

Nicks is a great red zone threat

as I type that he just made a nice TD grab.

 

He obviously read my post.

#BulletinBoardMaterial

 

The team went from 23rd to 10th in the league in points per play. And Tannehill didn't remain the same statistically. His QB rating went up over 10 points, which is substantial, and is probably the primary reason for the increase in points per play. His TD rate and INT rate were much more favorable, and his completion percentage went up 6%.

 

I agree, I'm just being overdramatic for the hell of it.

I'm confident with a healthy Albert and a new G our offense can elevate itself into the top 10, but then I worry about the defense.

 

edmonton eskimos?

 

Tannehill needs to improve for sure but there's some low hanging fruit to be had simply by adding depth at RB and a bigger threat at #2 WR. A more balanced offense, with RT throwing in the 28-32 att per game range would really improve efficiency.

 

John Jerry was better than Samson Satele