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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ATVZ400, May 20, 2008.
Oh JT,just get to camp already!!
The more the guy opens his mouth, the more selfish he sounds. Leading by example starts at these voluntary workouts, it shows commitment, dedication and it shows his teammates that they're all in this together. JT on the otherhand is hopping from one media outlet to the next, from one luncheon with Denzel Washington to the next. He's putting himself above the team and sending the messege that these workouts and practices really don't mean anything. I don't blame Parcells one bit for ignoring him.
Also, is it just me or does it seem like JT is trying to get himself released? That way he saves face with the fans and media more than he would if he just came out and retired. The only reason I ask is because a guy who loves football wouldn't repeatedly piss off his new boss by blowing off camps/workouts.
Way to pour gasoline on the fire JT.
He is just trying to line up deals while the 'buzz' on him is hot. It is coming at the expense of his rep as a football player. I always thought he was out for himself, unlike Zach, and this just puts the nail in the coffin.
The people in LA will blow smoke up his butt about how great an actor he will be.
There is absolutely nothing new here. We all knew, and talked for weeks now, that he would do these appearances immediately after the show, including a celebrity golf tourney. I think people are beginning to just enjoy bashing JT now.
Or are we concerned that we just came off a 1-15 season and we'd like to see our best player show a little responsisblity and leadership to help get us back to respectability. What type of lesson does this teach the young kids on the team and what does this do to the chemistry that we are trying to build, the chemistry that championship teams have when they all come together for one thing and one thing only? JT isn't going to be an asset next year IMO, he's going to be a distraction. He's sending the messege that these camps/workouts aren't all that important. He's putting himself before the team, and based on his play last year, he could use the time in camp to learn this defense.
He brought this on himself
Do dancing with the stars and get to Miami JT,pronto!
This solidifies more and more why Zach Thomas was always my favorite football player and not JT....
i read a story where zach was back from the probowl after about 6 days and was at the dolphins facility working out.....
Zach Thomas LEADS BY EXAMPLE
I knew he was doing apperances right after, but I didn't know he planned on missing the first mini-camp that starts this Friday. As a matter of fact I read at the beginning of this dance thing that he was just going to miss offseason conditioning nothing else.
Exactly, and when we consider that he is going to have to learn a new position, his selfishness is all the worse upon a closer examination.
I would not be surprised if JT is moved to the bottom of the depth chart I think that would be the thing to do to reply to his actions.
I'd rather have a Quentin Moses who is here, then a JT who doesn't want to be here.
I hope his acting career sucks worse that Shaq's did. I really do.
I hope he does one bomb and no producer or director touches him ever again.
IMHO of couse, but the example he is setting for the rookies (and even the vets) is that, good looks aside, great things can happen if you keep your nose to the grindstone and bleed profusely through the years for your team. The only emotions in this and other team's locker rooms is "envy".
As far as Parcells goes, I also grew up a Giants fan. I've been following him since he was promoted to Giants HC in '83, and not only am I not suprised by his actions, but not concerned the slightest by them either.
The first official mandatory mini-camp is June 6-8. He'll be there getting high fives from his team mates, while schooling Jake Long.
I still love'em both. Even if he did pull his parking sign out as the season ended, while thumbing his nose up at the media. I was a little hurt that he abandoned us so quickly.
And when a girl turns you down, she's an ugly skank who you didn't really want to date anyway.
Geez guys, this is getting ridiculous.
your right.....hence why he decided not to go to NE even though they had the best odds to get him a superbowl....because he couldnt do that to US FANS....way to abandon us Zach
But if brady called JT after he was cut, jason would sign there in a heartbeat....he has a man crush on brady and that team
I would agree with you if we were talking about going through all of that hard work and winning the superbowl, but we're not. We're talking about a guy that is showing his teammates that he's more concerned with his post football career and he's showing the youngsters that you don't need to work as hard as everyone else and that's it's okay to ignore the wishes of the HC and FO.
Do you think that JT will handle it well if they decide to sit him like they did with Larry Allen?
ZT bolted the second the season ended. Just because he didn't go to NE doesn't change that, but I hope he would do well anywhere he ended up. I'm not one of the ones here that would end my life if ZT and JT went to NE and won a SB. In fact, there would be some gratification knowing they needed those two to accomplish it.
yeah that makes sense considering he was cut.....
he has reconstructed his contract multiple times to help this franchise get more cap space to sign more players, or get us over the hump....tuna comes in and hes expendible, so they cut him, how does that translate to ZT bolting?! He would have stayed in miami, he said so himself, but they cut him so he had to move on....
If he was a much younger player, I would agree with you brother. But, he will retire soon and his team mates realize that. They also know that he's an 11 year vet, who has flourished in every system and regime he has ever played in/under. This is exactly what Marino used to do, except he was playing golf and building Children's Centers. In fact, Danny didn't even travel with the team in the end. But no one chastized him for it. I saw less venom on the boards when McMike was beating his wife, than when JT danced his way to stardom.
Believe me bro, I worked in the film and television business for years. In that business, it's not "Here today, gone tomorrow", it more like "Here today, gone later today". I'm all for him taking the opportunity when it knocks, because when the door closes, it can close for good.
I don't know what Larry Allen did to ride the pine, but with with our supposed HC support for JT, it may confirm Sporano as a puppet, and would look like an incredibley foolish thing to do IMHO.
The day the season ended, ZT pulled his parking space sign, carried it away, while thumbing his nose up at the media. Anyone who was paying attention knew he gave up right then and would not be back. I didn't blame him either. Is he on the roster now? Nope, just as I and many others suspected back then.
that was minutes after he and the team met with the new personell.....anyone could figure out that he was told right then and there what the FO's intentions were, so of course he picked up his sign....he knew he was gone
JT is a heck of a football player, but was never comfortable with being a leader. Whenever he was put on the spot, he usually said something dumb.
I don't know why people insist he magically change his routine.
"Whatever antagonism exists - and a good bit surely does, by now - is rooted in Taylor's desire to do what's best for himself even if the Dolphins view that as a disservice to the team."
not really a good analogy, sorry.
My point. He should concentrate on what he's good at and what everyone knows he's good at. Instead, he may go to hollywood, suck, and be out of hollywood by the time he's 35.
He deserves to learn a lesson. Stop taking your football ability for granted to pursue a huge '?', where there's a good chance you'll fail miserably and wish you had played football as long as your were good.
He's saying you are only saying that because you are bitter like when you lose a girlfriend.
Disagree here, what the hell fun is life if you don't take chances at least sometimes on a long shot?
Im so sick of hearing about this... and this article makes it even worse. I really wish we could have traded him now, even if we dropped our demends and got less than a second rounder, anything is better than having to deal with this crap on a daily basis. I was fine with him doing the show, but missing camp now too... thats just ridiculous. Youre still under contract, you have a job to do. Shut up, show up and do it!!! I hope we can fine him or something for not showing up, this is getting ridiculous. I love the guy and all, but come on...
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Well, I'm feeling like many of you and really getting tired of hashing on negative aspects of the franchise right now. We're all DOLFANS and there is so much going on right now that is positive there's no sense in my mind on focusing on one of the few negative aspects of the team. The Parcells - Taylor issues will resolve itself over time.
I look forward to seeing which vets get cut and hopfully we can find a few more contributors!
That's the perfect analogy. If he were here the whole time, you wouldn't have wished that hardship on him.
He's in stellar cardio shape, and don't think for a minute he hasn't been lifting this whole time either. JT thinks he's in the best shape he's been in in years.That's all this regime has been concentrating on to this point, getting in shape. On June 6-8, at the first official mini-camp, they will switch and concentrate all on football. JT will be there, essentially missing hardly anymore football than any other player on the roster.
JT is an 11 year vet, who is still playing at an elite level. He can take his abilities for granted now. Do you really think Parcells, Ireland, or Sporano are going to teach him something new? Please.......the only thing JT learns now is some new terminology to describe the same plays he's been excelling at for over a decade.
It was Cam and Zach in an introductory meeting with Parcells. We don't know what happened at that meeting, but in that situation, I have a hard time believing that Parcells used that opportunity to tell ZT to look for employment elsewhere.
imo it was probably no biggy.....he probably removes his sign every offseason.....the marlins play there, so he cant have a parking spot on that stadium year round, it was probably hanley ramirez spot during baseball season or something
The Marlins get parking spaces too? They should go park over in the dirt.
they wouldnt wanna get their 2 world championship trophies dirty though......
Your analogy would've been perfect had I said: Well he sucked at football anyway, so I'm glad he's gone.
However, I never said that and never thought that, therefore I don't see how the analogy is perfect
good job Jason, screw the organization that made you.
he reminds me of the Rock in the WWE; became a star and forgot who made him
In the dirt? They have dirt outside the stadium? Olindo should have practiced on there instead of grass then ...