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Ten Wins

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by HogsHDFinsfan, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    We have to go 4-1...that's the mission for Philbin to keep his job. Tannehill was great. WRS very good. OL, serviceable, considering. Defense...forget this game and regroup. If the defense is what they showed today, we won't win two more games this year much less four more games. They have to be better than they were. Are they? Will find out soon enough.Oh, Dion Sims was good too. And Lamar Miller. Damian Williams was very bad.
     
  2. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Forget it.

    This team ain't winning shat with this D. Philbin must rebuild D from scratch. Too many losers on that side of ball to count.
     
  3. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    you might be right. I think they are better than what they show today. But, they might not be. This might be as good as they are.
     
  4. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Missing Taylor, Davis and Finnegan is going what hurt us. Did Odrick and Misi ever come back?
     
  5. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Yes..lets discard 10 previous weeks of football which we finished ranked as the #2 defense in the NFL. Lets just focus on this one terrible game because that is highly logical.
     
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  6. HogsHDFinsfan

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    I think they did. yeah, being down to corner backs is not where you want to be against Peyton Manning. I don't think he is the best quarterback in the NFL, but he may be the best at taking advantage of your weaknesses.
     
  7. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    You can hang your hat on that shat. I hope Philbin does not. This D needs total rebuild. Starting with the DC, through Wake, and Grimes, everyone must go. This defense is complete failure, top to bottom.
     
  8. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    no one is discarding anything. At least, I am NOT. They have to play better than they did today. I personally think they are better than they were today. But, we will see.
     
  9. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    I think we have some good players on defense.however, I think we need defensive tackles and corner backs as a priority. I know people think defensive tackle is a strength, but it was not today. And corner backs, you always need them. You never have enough good ones!
     
  10. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your attempt at analysis is complete failure.
     
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  11. HogsHDFinsfan

    HogsHDFinsfan New Member

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    There were a few meltdowns on the game thread. "****ing **** mother ****ing **** face"...it was hysterical.
     
  12. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    Let me ask you this: what type of teams do you think we would face in the playoffs? The ones we've beaten or the ones we lost to, including the 3 in the closing minutes? It doesn't matter if this D shines vs lesser QBs.
     
  13. Dol Fan99

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    What in the world are you even saying? That is absolutely laughable and I'm almost sure you're saying this to **** with people and stir up a conversation.
     
  14. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Since I predicted before this game that the Dolphins would find a way to lose, I'm certainly not surprised by the final result.

    I thought Tannehill and the offense played extremely well in the first half, but once again the offense failed to produce anything in the second half until the game was out of reach.

    It was the defense which failed to show up at all and they are the reason the Dolphins lost today.

    My prediction prior to the game was the Dolphins would finish the season 9-7. I feel they can still win 3 out of their next 5 games and finish with a winning record for the first time since 2008. It won't be enough to make the playoffs and may not be enough to save Philbin's job, but at least it won't be another season in which the Dolphins are 500 or below.

    Anything less than 9-7 at this point and there will need to be a complete overhaul of this team and it's coaching staff IMO.
     
  15. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Intensity level raises at the playoffs, this team will get destroyed in the playoffs by any of the top teams. If our defense wants to know what kind of intensity they should be playing, they should look no further than Landry and follow his example. That's how you show up to play in the playoffs, every single snap.
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito. Club Member

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    They did score a touchdown. The interception was tough. However they only had 4 drives in the second half. Two of those drives went for touchdowns.
     
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  17. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Come on Alex, defensive stats don't mean anything when your defense allows two long drives in the closing minutes of a game, (Packers-Lions) and then plays like it did today.

    Other than the Patriots in the first game of this season, and the Chargers, who always have trouble winning games when they travel east, the Dolphins defense basically built their stats against teams which are near the bottom of the league in offensive stats.

    The reality is that when this defense needs to make plays against the better teams in the NFL to win a game, they just don't seem to be able to do it. Today was obviously the worst game the defense has played all year, but this Dolphin defense is only slightly above average and is not anywhere close to being the great defense many on here have said they are.

    I think today's game clearly shows that stats are vastly overrated.
     
  18. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I'm not trying to downplay the offensive effort today. They certainly played well enough to win the game. Yet the one TD theyscored early in the second half was on a short drive after special teams recovered a fumble. The last TD was scored when the Broncos defense went into a prevent defense in an attempt to prevent the Dolphins from scoring too quickly.

    I think Tannehill proved today that he continues to improve and that he deserves to be the long term answer at the QB position for this team.

    Perhaps the offense would have been more effective in the second half if they had been given more opportunities, but the defense just wasn't able to get the ball back for the offense in the second half.

    I would certainly take 36 points from this offense every week and they would win the vast majority of those games without a doubt. Unfortunately today, the defense just let the offense down.
     
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  19. PhinsMondayNitro

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    There's not much improvement in my opinion, our goal is the playoffs right? Last season at this point we were 5-6, this year we're 6-5. One game
     
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  20. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Offense is in place. Offense can compete at high level especially when it plays balanced. Oline's had issues, but due to injuries, one more eyar should solidify things there. The whole O team is competitive and improving. We could use improvements at WR and RB. RT is a limited QB but can win at high level in this system so the limitations are not necessarily weighing down the team. (We are never going to find a perfect QB.)

    The defense is a disaster, across the board, top to bottom, loser after a loser. This unit needs a complete overhaul. They are uncompetitive at every position when they need to be.
     
  21. seabass0795

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    How have you not been kicked from these forums yet? Your attempts at trolling are laughable
     
  22. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Theyre not going to make the playoffs unfortunately, and more bad news- Philbin will be back. Book it.
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Yes, one of the TD's were one a short drive. After a punt fumble. Which means in the second half they had 3 drives. Which was 2 touchdowns and 1 interception. The interception was really bad, however even if Miami scores, takes the lead, unless that score took all the time off the clock, Denver just marches down and scores again.

    Which is pretty much my point. I disagree that the offense was a big reason Miami lost. IMO, this lost is 90% on the defense. Defense was freaking terrible today.
     
  24. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I do believe that Tannehill and the overall offense have shown a great deal of improvement over last year. I just think that the real problem against the better teams in the league is that the Dolphins defense just doesn't have any play makers when the game is on the line.

    The defense plays well when it goes up against inferior offenses, but the players on the defense just can't get the job done against the better teams in the league on a consistent basis.

    I won't go as far as TooGoodForDez, and call for a complete new roster on the defensive side of the ball, but I do think that a lot of new talent is needed on that side of the ball if this team expects to be a legitimate playoff contender in the near future.
     
  25. jw3102

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    I think if you read my comments again, you will see that I said the defense was the major reason the Dolphins lost the game today. I agree that the defense was terrible today and they should be ashamed of the lack of effort they showed throughout from the second quarter until the end of the game.

    I have seen peewee league players who tackle better then the Dolphins defense did today.
     
  26. unluckyluciano

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    you can hang your hat on reality I toogoodfordez will not. Your post is bad. And you should feel bad.
     
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  27. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I remember someone on this forum telling us last year to, "book it" that Ireland would be back this year too.

    I suspect Philbin will be back if the Dolphins finish the season 9-7 or better, even if they don't make the playoffs.

    Yet if they finish 8-8 or worse, I just don't see Philbin being the coach next year.
     
  28. Vertical Limit

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    trust me I dont want anyone in this coaching staff back but I just have a feeling that he will be back if we dont make the playoffs, which we wont IMO. We will go 3-2 at best to finish the season, but most likely it will be 2-3
     
  29. jpep13

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    As far as defense goes, linebackers, secondary rebuild, need a replacement for miss Misi
     
  30. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    As much as I respect Wake, I also think he is starting to show his age. He just seems to disappear late in close games. Vernon seems to be having the same type season this year he did last year. He started out playing very well, but as the season has worn on, he just seems to make less and less plays.

    I also think the interior defensive line has shown a weakness in getting inside pressure in recent weeks.

    I certainly agree that Misi is not the answer at middle linebacker. I was totally shocked when they signed him to a new contract in the middle of the 2013 season. I have never seen him as anything but a very average LB in the NFL.

    I guess after signing Wheeler and Ellerbe after the 2012 season, Ireland wanted to ensure the Dolphins had the worst starting LB's in the NFL, so he decided to sign Misi because he and Philbin weren't getting along at the time.

    Other than Jenkins, who probably had his worse game today since becoming a starter, I really don't see any other LB on the team who I would want back next year. McCain is a possibility, but we have seen so little of him this year, no one really knows if he can be a starter in the NFL or not.
     
  31. jw3102

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    If this team goes 8-8 or worse and Philbin is still the HC next year, I will just give up on Ross ever getting it as an NFL owner.
     
  32. Dolfan330

    Dolfan330 My wein is so chaffed...

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    I've played with the playoff machine a lot and 10 wins seems to be the magic number for sure. Most of the "in the hunt" teams will play each other and things will even out. Miami just has to beat the teams they're supposed to beat and they'll be in. If we can manage to win out (big if), this may also be a similar situation as 2008 where we can win the division and keep the Patriots out of the playoffs completely. The Pats have a tough back to back away games at GB and SD. The Pats losing 3 in a row seems pretty unlikely, I know, but it's not impossible.
     
  33. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I think you're right. Unfortunately

    SD never wins on the east coast. :(
     
  34. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic 30 years and counting Club Member

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    have you ever said one thing in this forum that made any sense? clueless, you're giving LBsFinest a run for his money.
     
  35. Fin4Ever

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    JW maybe the Defense was just gassed...they have not played even close to as bad as they played at Denver! I agree that we do need some additional talent on D but at the end of the day I wonder how much of the blame should go to Coyle?
     
  36. Fin4Ever

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    Patriots are at San Diego
     
  37. BSQ

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    The defense was gassed. The altitude really did a number on them. That's not how we tackle. That's not us against the run. We'll be back to normal this week. I'm NOT giving them a pass because they'll couldn't get off the field to save their lives. I also don't forgive the losses to the Pack and the Lions because they just couldn't make a play to close out a game. But, we're a much better D than we showed against Denver. The injuries are trouble and they are mounting up but that's the NFL and teams require quality depth ready to go in and play when their number is called. Were getting thin and certainly couldn't afford any more bad luck. Win and stay healthy, you never know where it can take you once your in the Playoffs. Now if somehow we can get in there...
     
  38. KeyFin

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    If Miami's offense can show up like they did in Denver, finishing 5-0 is not out of the question. Only a fool would be upset about the way our defense played in Mile High Stadium....elite athletes from around the US go there to train because it kicks their *** so thoroughly. Miami played extremely well against Denver and the D will be back to form this week.
     

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