Texas A&M fan yells at Manziel, "Ryan Tannehill is way better than you"

"Tebow is better than you" would be way more insulting. Or "Your mom goes to college"

Well, it's true.

I think that the world would be a better place if professional athletes were allowed to have one free swing at an obnoxious fan per year.

"Pauly wrote:

I think that the world would be a better place if professional athletes were allowed to have one free swing at an obnoxious fan per year.

while I agree, Manziel needs to learn how to deal with heckling just like other high profile athletes.

"Pauly wrote:

I think that the world would be a better place if professional athletes were allowed to have one free swing at an obnoxious fan per year.

Just one?

This is a pretty sad story really. I'm sure the "fan" yelling at Manziel probably also had one of his buddies recording a video on his phone in an attempt to get Manziel to react and do something he could later go after him for a quick pay day on, or a few minutes in the spotlight. It's sad that's what the world has come to.

I get it, heckling happens all the time for pro athletes and they have to handle it, but most of the time it's just borderline ridiculous.

"PhinsRDbest wrote:

"Tebow is better than you" would be way more insulting. Or "Your mom goes to college"

He actually was better at both levels

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

while I agree, Manziel needs to learn how to deal with heckling just like other high profile athletes.

He's got to realize he brought a large share of the sh*t he catches upon himself. He's too cocky for a guy who hasn't done anything...Heisman trophies don't count at this level.

He's a jackass, and was treated in kind.

He calls himself johnny football. You think people aren't going to get in your face with a nickname like that?

IF things played out the way Johnny's "friend" (i.e. paid member of his entourage) said they did, then there's pretty much no reason Johnny couldn't have nipped the whole thing in the bud by just telling event security that the guy in question was heckling and being disruptive. The guy would have been escorted out or told that if he says another word he's gone. And that would have been it.

But instead Johnny Football decides to throw a water bottle at the guy? You don't do that. What if it had hit him? What if it had hit some innocent bystander or some young kid?

This "friend" (i.e. paid member of his entourage) claims that Johnny was 20 yards away from the kid and that the bottle was empty and that he threw it to the ground not at the kid. Bull sh-t. An actual witness told the police it was a 32 ounce water bottle that was 3/4ths full and the bottle hit a brick wall. If you're 20 yards away and you throw a plastic bottle with 1.5 pounds of water hard enough that it clears the 20 yards and hits a wall first instead of the ground, then that projectile could have hurt someone. No doubt about it whatsoever.

If the events transpired the way the "friend" said they did, I just don't get how Johnny allowed it to continue to that point. He could have had the guy removed at any time.

The thing that pisses me off about the story so much is how blatantly Johnny's friend lied on his behalf. It means he's still surrounding himself with enablers who insulate him from the truth. An objective witness tells the police something entirely different from what this "friend" tells them, and the rest of the "friend's" story sounds embellished to all hell. I'm surprised he didn't twist it into the kid having thrown a glass bottle at Johnny and missing so bad that it was about to hit an infant and Johnny stepping in front of the baby to protect it from harm, sacrificing his body to be a hero. Then the part from his agent about Johnny having been back from church that day.

From a Texas A&M perspective "Tannehill was better" is an insult as Manziel played better on the college level. From our POV at the pro level it's not close. Manziel was a horrid NFL prospect and will never be more than a sideshow. Tebow was better on both levels and while both are a distraction, Tebow has always been a class act.

As for the current dust-up, minor as it is, Manziel has to grow up. (I wonder how long we'll keep saying that). He'll always be a target (largely of his own making). The fan was probably a jerk and probably at fault, but when you're the celeb you'll face all kinds. He'll either learn not to react or continue to make stupid headlines off the field.

You answer a heckler by throwing a 1.5 pound projectile at him from 20 yards away and then having your friends lie about it to the police.

I think you nailed it. He needs to "grow up".

and it reached the point where Johnny Manziel threw a bottle of water at the kid. I don't know if it hit him.

A witness told police that the bottle hit a brick wall.

This sums up Manziel as a QB quite perfectly.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

This sums up Manziel as a QB quite perfectly.

That is what I was thinking.

Yes it is immature that he threw a bottle at a person yelling at him. As a quarterback it is sad that he missed. especially only 20 yards out.

How does the Four Seasons allow this to happen? Pretty damn embarrassing.

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Both Manziel and Tannehill have the same career playoff stats.

That 18 year old needs to go join NFL Network. He'd be the best analyst there.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Both Manziel and Tannehill have the same career playoff stats.

Lol. Getting to the playoffs is a team accomplishment. Tannehill is light years better than Manziel, and he isn't a jackass.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Lol. Getting to the playoffs is a team accomplishment. Tannehill is light years better than Manziel, and he isn't a jackass.

That seems to be the motto by Dolphins fans ever since Tannehill has been drafted on this website which is a weak argument.

49ers dont win those Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
patriots dont win without Brady.
packers dont win that Super Bowl without Aaron.
colts dont win without Manning.
New Orleans dont win without Brees.

Neither of the above make it to the playoff on thos seasons without those quarterbacks. Quarterback play is the most important part of making the playoffs .

Go ahead make a Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer reference, the two times in the modern era where a franchise quarterback didnt lead the team to the playoffs/super bowl. That will help you.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

That seems to be the motto by Dolphins fans ever since Tannehill has been drafted on this website which is a weak argument.

49ers dont win those Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
patriots dont win without Brady.
packers dont win that Super Bowl without Aaron.
colts dont win without Manning.
New Orleans dont win without Brees.

Neither of the above make it to the playoff on thos seasons without those quarterbacks. Quarterback play is the most important part of making the playoffs .

Go ahead make a Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer reference, the two times in the modern era where a franchise quarterback didnt lead the team to the playoffs/super bowl. That will help you.

And none of those QBs make it to the playoffs without the teams they had either. QB play may be a big part, but it won't get you there alone. Pointing to Manzeil's and Tannehill's playoff record is the mother of weak arguments.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

That seems to be the motto by Dolphins fans ever since Tannehill has been drafted on this website which is a weak argument.

49ers dont win those Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
patriots dont win without Brady.
packers dont win that Super Bowl without Aaron.
colts dont win without Manning.
New Orleans dont win without Brees.

Neither of the above make it to the playoff on thos seasons without those quarterbacks. Quarterback play is the most important part of making the playoffs .

Go ahead make a Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer reference, the two times in the modern era where a franchise quarterback didnt lead the team to the playoffs/super bowl. That will help you.

I don't understand what your point actually is. Ryan Tannehill is a better QB than Manziel and at this point, that isn't even an opinion, it's a fact.

Their playoff records are irrelevant. Jay Fiedler was our last playoff winning QB. Chad Pennington was the QB last time we made the playoffs. And those teams made it because of a strong running game and dominating defense. A QB is the most important piece, but football is still a team game.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Both Manziel and Tannehill have the same career playoff stats.

So do you...anybody offering you an extension?

His point wasn't genuinely asserting that Manziel and Tannehill are equal so much as reminding us that as much as we'd like to laugh at the Browns for their QB misadventures, our own quarterback has not proven a whole lot yet.

Sort of like how I remind people when we like to make fun of the Jets quarterback situation that it's tough for us to do that when we made Geno Smith look PERFECT in Week 17. We absolutely made Geno Smith look better than Ryan Tannehill that game and so it's tough for us to get a big head about things laughing at the Jets for their QB situation.

I mean to say, I get the point. But the fact remains to date Manziel and Tannehill aren't even comparable as NFL players. One is a flipping disaster and the other just got a $100 million extension. And not an extension that other GMs don't understand, either. It's not like they're coming out of the woodwork anonymously saying "What the hell were the Dolphins thinking?!?"

"ckparrothead wrote:

His point wasn't genuinely asserting that Manziel and Tannehill are equal so much as reminding us that as much as we'd like to laugh at the Browns for their QB misadventures, our own quarterback has not proven a whole lot yet.

Sort of like how I remind people when we like to make fun of the Jets quarterback situation that it's tough for us to do that when we made Geno Smith look PERFECT in Week 17. We absolutely made Geno Smith look better than Ryan Tannehill that game and so it's tough for us to get a big head about things laughing at the Jets for their QB situation.

I mean to say, I get the point. But the fact remains to date Manziel and Tannehill aren't even comparable as NFL players. One is a flipping disaster and the other just got a $100 million extension. And not an extension that other GMs don't understand, either. It's not like they're coming out of the woodwork anonymously saying "What the hell were the Dolphins thinking?!?"

Ya I get that...but I see it a little differently...my saying Vert has the same record also, was to show how equally irrelevant it is to comparing they're playoff records.

Also, RT has shown more at this point, which I don't disregard because the TEAM hasn't made the playoffs. RT was certainly part of the "why" his first year...less so, but also his second year...not his third IMO.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

That seems to be the motto by Dolphins fans ever since Tannehill has been drafted on this website which is a weak argument.

49ers dont win those Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
patriots dont win without Brady.
packers dont win that Super Bowl without Aaron.
colts dont win without Manning.
New Orleans dont win without Brees.

Neither of the above make it to the playoff on thos seasons without those quarterbacks. Quarterback play is the most important part of making the playoffs .

Go ahead make a Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer reference, the two times in the modern era where a franchise quarterback didnt lead the team to the playoffs/super bowl. That will help you.

Oh really? Baltimore made it to the playoffs... and won a game!

Yards Passing;
Tannehill= 4,045
Flacco = 3,986

Completion %;
Tannehill = 66.4
Flacco = 62.1

Touchdowns;
Tannehill= 27
Flacco = 27

Interceptions;
Tannehill = 12
Flacco = 12

Passer Rating;
Tannehill = 92.8
Flacco - 91.0

But wait a second.. Lets look at the TEAM defenses;
Miami = 373 Points allowed (23.3 PPG), rated 20th in the league
Baltimore = 302 points allowed (18.9 PPG), Rated 6th in the league.

Hmm, nothing to separate the QB play, but other aspects of the teams don't match up at all. You know the aspects where Tannehill isn't even on the field.
But you're probably right, a good defense has nothing to do with making the playoffs...