The Dark Knight Spoiler thread. Don't come in if you haven't seen the movie.

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Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 06:28 AM

The rumor I read stated that the next movie is going to have the Riddler. They will probably go with the cocky super smart son of a ***** version of him if they are going to use him.

I remember in interviews Nolan saying that the Penguin wouldn't fit in his universe. Which I don't really understand. The Penguin is just some fat guy who is really rich and has a big nose. Maybe it is his umbrellas ;).

Honestly, that movie rocked. I had high expectations and the only disappointment I have is the fact I cannot wipe my mind so I can watch it anew again. It is like christmas and the toy I always wanted is right there. Now that it is open, I can never put the present back in the box.

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 08:53 AM

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

The rumor I read stated that the next movie is going to have the Riddler. They will probably go with the cocky super smart son of a ***** version of him if they are going to use him.

I remember in interviews Nolan saying that the Penguin wouldn't fit in his universe. Which I don't really understand. The Penguin is just some fat guy who is really rich and has a big nose. Maybe it is his umbrellas ;).

Honestly, that movie rocked. I had high expectations and the only disappointment I have is the fact I cannot wipe my mind so I can watch it anew again. It is like christmas and the toy I always wanted is right there. Now that it is open, I can never put the present back in the box.

Ralph Finnes as the Riddler anyone? (The main bad guy from Shindler's List for those that don't know)

I agree though, there's no guarantee Two-Face is dead.

FiresoleFiresoleNew Member
Jul 19, 2008, 09:20 AM

How about Jessica Biel for Catowman? Although this costume is sexy as hell, it needs to be improved on a tad! LOL

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 10:49 AM

everyone want a great performance like heath did in this one in the next movie??

daniel day lewis as riddler.........thoughts?

FinSaneFinSaneforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 10:55 AM

Ralph Finnes would make an excellent Riddler.

ILPhinFan88ILPhinFan88luxury_box
Jul 19, 2008, 12:09 PM

"FinSane wrote:

Just wanted to float this idea around:

Angelina Jolie as Poison Ivy
Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin

thoughts?

I read in an article that Nolan said Penguin would never be in his movie

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 01:07 PM

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

everyone want a great performance like heath did in this one in the next movie??

daniel day lewis as riddler.........thoughts?

Hi, I'm the Riddler. I'm a oil man, and I am going to drink your milkshake, what do you think of that?

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Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 01:30 PM

Just saw this and what an excellent movie it was. Heath Ledger knocked it out of the park, every scene he was in was amazing. Was disappointed and shocked that they killed off Two-Face I thought they would use him for the next movie.

The villian for the next movie I think will be The Riddler and after seeing TDK there is not a doubt in my mind they planned on bringing back The Joker.

Oh and BTW would anyone like to see the pencil trick?:wink2:

Jt0323Jt0323moderator
Jul 19, 2008, 01:48 PM

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

They did not kill Two face. There was even one of those forshadowing moments in the movie where Batman takes that mobster and gives the whole, "If you are going to scare me drop me from higher, I am not going ot die from this height" speech and batman was all like, "That is what I am counting on"

Harvey dropped the about the same height. Dent, the symbol of gothem died. Two Face lives on.

wow you are absolutely right. Great call...

Im personally glad Rachel is out of the picture...

I cant get over how amazing this movie was. The IT clown got nothing on the joker...there are so many great quotes in this movie is unbelievable..."Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed you to your pooches? Hmm? And then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is."

finfansince72finfansince72subscriber
Jul 19, 2008, 01:58 PM

Great movie, really intense. I'm not worried about who they put in the third movie, as long as Bale and Nolan are doing it theres nothing to worry about.

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 03:10 PM

"Firesole wrote:

How about Jessica Biel for Catowman? Although this costume is sexy as hell, it needs to be improved on a tad! LOL

Yea, it definitely needs improvement. Covers too much skin. :wink2:

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Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 04:07 PM

After thinking about the movie a little more I remember the scene where Bruce is getting his new suit and asked Lucius if it would be effective against dogs and Lucius responded by saying it would work against cats as well. Could this possibly have been a hint at Catwoman for a future film? I still believe The Riddler would be the best choice as the main villian for a sequel but thought that could possibly have been a hint at Catwoman.

Regan21286Regan21286New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 05:07 PM

"Brown42000 wrote:

After thinking about the movie a little more I remember the scene where Bruce is getting his new suit and asked Lucius if it would be effective against dogs and Lucius responded by saying it would work against cats as well. Could this possibly have been a hint at Catwoman for a future film? I still believe The Riddler would be the best choice as the main villian for a sequel but thought that could possibly have been a hint at Catwoman.

I believe that was the line I couldn't remember and was referring to earlier in another post. Got some chuckles in the audience when he said that.

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BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Jul 19, 2008, 06:19 PM

OMG now I remember!!!

SkapePhinSkapePhinforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 07:34 PM

THE PERFECT Riddler

FinSaneFinSaneforum_veteran
Jul 19, 2008, 09:20 PM

"Brown42000 wrote:

After thinking about the movie a little more I remember the scene where Bruce is getting his new suit and asked Lucius if it would be effective against dogs and Lucius responded by saying it would work against cats as well. Could this possibly have been a hint at Catwoman for a future film? I still believe The Riddler would be the best choice as the main villian for a sequel but thought that could possibly have been a hint at Catwoman.

I dont recall that, but nice catch.

ILPhinFan88ILPhinFan88luxury_box
Jul 19, 2008, 09:56 PM

"FinSane wrote:

I dont recall that, but nice catch.

I remember the line, I was like what was that all about "a Cat"

Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 10:12 PM

TDK is now 1st on IMDb top 250 movies. Simply amazing

unifiedtheoryunifiedtheoryluxury_box
Jul 19, 2008, 10:34 PM

I caught that "it works with cats" line as well and immediately thought of Catwoman.

After this film and Ledger's performance I have doubts about only one villain carrying a movie. To be honest, I was happy they "killed off" Two Face but I don't really think he's dead. He'll likely play a part in the next film but I don't/can't see him being the only villain. He's an alright "baddy" but no where near compelling enough to carry the torch.

Id like to see Catwoman as long as the casting is right of course. they could bring back Liam Neeson. I never saw a body at the end of "Begins" so that could happen.

Whatever Nolan does he's got a tough road because this film was stellar. I trsut him and Bale with it though, they will do it right.

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Brown42000Brown42000New Member
Jul 19, 2008, 11:26 PM

The Scarecrow will likely make an apperance in the next film also as he is still around, all it will take is someone to release him from Arkham. I think this is where Ledger's absence hurts the film because the Joker won't be present and I could've seen the new villian in the next movie releasing the main baddies (Two Face assuming he is alive, Joker, and Scarecrow) to wreck havoc on Gotham and go after The Batman.

I think that could have possibly been a very good film.

BuckeyeKingBuckeyeKingNew Member
Jul 19, 2008, 11:37 PM

I'm thinking 1 more movie. With Heath gone you really can't recast for the Joker because now they have to be as good or better. I'm thinking 2face, Catwoman, and Scarecrow in the third and final film. If 2face is dead then replace him with the riddler.

FIfinsincebirthforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2008, 12:37 AM

"BuckeyeKing wrote:

I'm thinking 1 more movie. With Heath gone you really can't recast for the Joker because now they have to be as good or better. I'm thinking 2face, Catwoman, and Scarecrow in the third and final film. If 2face is dead then replace him with the riddler.

I'd be worried about casting 3 villians, because I'd be afraid that it would follow the same path as spiderman 3. Too many villians who aren't given enough screen time.

His'nBeatYour'nHis'nBeatYour'nNew Member
Jul 20, 2008, 05:09 AM

"Regan21286 wrote:

My odds are on Catwoman. And don't forget Scarecrow's still alive. I would think a rational direction to go is the redemption of Batman in the public's eyes. Bane and Black Mask didn't really have prominent roles in Long Halloween, so I dunno if Nolan would go there. And there's still a stigma of using Bane considering what happened in Batman and Robin...

Definitely. I'm trying to wrap my head around how Catwoman might fit into such a story. Hopefully Nolan signs on for the third, because he would be able to pull it off.

His'nBeatYour'nHis'nBeatYour'nNew Member
Jul 20, 2008, 05:12 AM

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

would uma thurman make a good catwomen? she has the fighting backround from 'kill bill', good actress and the body.....she gets my irrelevent vote...

side note--this movie was phenomenal!!! joker is the greatest villian I have ever seen in movies.....tops vader, hannibal lector etc.....ledger was absolute perfect.....i am 21 and I left the theatre tonight like a child repeating lines wanting to be an actor......he was incredibly inspiring!!!!

side note part 2-- anyone else really annoyed by the way bale speaks in a costume??..over doing it imo......just the only thing that bothered me.....

"madness is a lot like gravity........all you needs a little push hahahahaha"

I like that he spoke that way, and it makes sense as far as concealing his identity. it works great when intimidating criminals, but it definitely was odd when he was having more casual conversations with Dent and Gordon.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2008, 07:51 AM

"His'nBeatYour'n wrote:

I like that he spoke that way, and it makes sense as far as concealing his identity. it works great when intimidating criminals, but it definitely was odd when he was having more casual conversations with Dent and Gordon.

well I knew he was hiding his identity with it.....but why talk to fox and alfred and rachel that way?? they know who he is

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